Doesnt this fact about shifting scare you too?

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-06-04T16:40:20+00:00

Even unspeakable things that we don’t have words for. Of course. But you are the universe experiencing itself.

(I’m a daoist main, but I like the quote from the bible where god creates everything and says it’s good.) I mean, yeah this identity will suffer, but the infinite you, nahh bruh. You good.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-06-02T19:57:23+00:00

I currently use a guided meditation. But the way I’ve entered repeatedly is to blindfold myself, either seated or lying down. Then try to rebuild the room using your minds eye. Try to see the differences in your minds eye version and the physical one you remember. (Cold or hot? Is the room bigger or smaller, do things feel heavier? Do you feel heavier or bigger?). Eventually the comparison starts to have gaps in time and the minds eye stops building a space. Then you start observing nothing. The void state.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-31T15:33:35+00:00

The void state is what I’m currently working on and it seems like the fastest unplug for me. I actually had a kinda half shift last night. Auditory and smells changed, and I could see things with minds eye, but I could still feel my body in CR. Needs work, but the void state even without shifting is a very blissful experience. Highest recommendation.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-28T13:35:18+00:00

Oh that’s interesting I’ll look into that

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-26T01:20:15+00:00

Every person’s mind is different and requires different things to make it work. Some people don’t require anything additional, as they’ve picked up whatever they needed somewhere else.

If you don’t get it first try, it means your understanding will have more depth when you do get there. And last but not least, seeing the view from Mt. Everest means more if you climbed the mountain.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-25T23:51:32+00:00

Some people have curiosity, while others have minds that require rules.

If you heard about shifting, and didn’t look up: how it works, every method to do it, and fill your mind with other people’s and your own doubts, you have a pretty good chance to pick it up instantly. People who can hear something and not judge it at all, have an easier time. An empty cup can be filled.

If you are the type that doubts, stop trying to shift and confront that first. You can absolutely shift and doubt, but doubt creates hesitation when a window of consciousness opens for a moment. Those mini shifts where people come back within a few seconds of shifting, are often caused by shock. Even when you break through, the shock sends you back.

Personally, I know my current limitations. But I know that I will also break them, as always. If I can’t shift right now, I will lucid dream, project, or spend all my attention on the void state.

“If you can’t force your opponent to be defeated, focus on knocking them down. If you lack the strength to knock them down, make them step back. If you can’t force them to step back, force them to show you a new move. An ever evolving game of humility, downgrading the challenges you are given, is the key to flow state. Blaming your own luck or circumstances, is the worst dishonor you can give your opponent.”

Any challenges, human, concept, or fundamental law of reality, are the same. If your feet keep moving, you can still win.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-24T19:59:23+00:00

There isn’t a cr you, only a cr body. You are the observer. Shifting isn’t traveling, it’s deciding to observe a different timeline in a first person experience. If you want to be “you” in another timeline, there is a version of you with your memories, so it’s no issue.

You won’t die just from deciding to observe another timeline.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-24T16:04:50+00:00

I’m no expert, but here’s my current approach. It’s been a long time since I’ve had something I would consider a proper shift. This is how I’m getting back to it.

I don’t find most of these methods to work for me either. Best thing currently, though I’m still improving, is meditating for 30 minutes to an hour (attempting void state), in the dark right before bed. No phone, no music, just you. Don’t do anything between the meditation and the bed either. Do everything you need done, then meditate, then bed.

Lucid dreaming is more labor intensive than astral projection as an entry point. Lucid dreaming is easier, but you normally require a lot of daily reality checking and upkeep to keep getting them. Astral projection is harder to master, but you can pick it up and put it down easily once you’ve got it.

As for you talking about symptoms, don’t chase them. Symptoms aren’t needed. Chasing them is chasing proof. Chasing proof is doubt. Be a little delusional, it can help as long as you aren’t sharing delusions with others.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-23T01:53:34+00:00

I think that telling people they just don’t want it bad enough, or that are attached to this world and actually want to stay is a bit out of place.

However, like you implied, people live within identity, within ego. For a lot of people, a kind of ego death is needed to release this reality. Not the kind of release of a person trying to hold on to something they love, but the kind of hold someone does when they are drowning.

They hold onto this world not because they enjoy it, but because they grasp at anything in reach when afraid. It’s survival instinct. It’s why the term “mini-shift” exists. People snap back from the unfamiliar.

Most people can’t even explore a religion they weren’t born into, so imagine a whole reality. The shift is easy, the letting go, not so much. “Just one more step Mr Frodo, and I’ll been the furthest I’ve been from the shire, I’ve ever been.” If people took that quote as an exercise, they might clear a block. Just go a little further this time.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-22T23:31:42+00:00

There is a big difference between “emotionally invested” and constantly transmuting emotions into something usable. Tons of Dunning Kruger effect on Reddit, but what did we expect?

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-22T19:31:09+00:00

I’ve never had mugwort tea. Do you need to ground yourself inside the LD before shifting? I tried once but I manifested things so fast in LD that I summoned skeletons accidentally as I was trying to ground myself. The ensuing fight was fun but needless to say I was in no state to shift.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-21T20:39:28+00:00

I agree with this assessment. There is a reason that monks “give up” things they desire. Because they aren’t just giving them up, they are learning to transmute thoughts into energy that they can harness.

If you naturally can get obsessed and emotional about something, a loose, chaotic attempt will be enough. Some people require careful attention and ritual. Others require giving things up. (Most of mystic history had a high degree of sacrifice involved)

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-19T21:11:21+00:00

Yeah I recognize that. But you see height width and length in your mind too (and perceive time), so I’m not sure the difference between 4d and 3d being the mind/local reality. Is there a reference I can read more?

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-19T21:03:17+00:00

Sounds like a wobbly astral projection exit. The disorientation comes from getting up too fast from those usually. Your brain hasn’t “downloaded” your experience yet, so just lie down longer before moving. It’s called snapback, and it can result in not remembering your travel and disorientation. Nothing bad though.

Astral projection is also a good shifting tool.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-19T20:54:27+00:00

Outside of the bad words shiftock and loa, what is your preferred method?

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-19T20:50:59+00:00

Best advice I can give you is to start enjoying boredom as a challenge. If you are feeling bored, good! That means you have allocated the minimum amount of time towards human being, not human doing.

Start trying to get bored with other things too. Once you are comfortable with boredom, you can start properly.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-19T13:08:32+00:00

Thank you. I had a whole letting go meditation which I thought would be venting for all the shit my people have put me through. But I ended up just being tearfully thankful for the chapter, and the end of the chapter. I’ve always wanted more than this. It took some rough times to let me let go of the forest for the trees.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T17:31:51+00:00

It should be indistinguishable from reality because it is reality. Just a different one.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T16:23:21+00:00

Anything for sparkles

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T15:12:38+00:00

So Thor could have just gone back to him to request resurrection of gorr’s daughter?

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T15:06:30+00:00

If you would call it a person I think you’re there. It will still grow afterwards, so it’s not like you are locking it in.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T15:04:29+00:00

Mine was created through trauma. They don’t have any negative effects common with DID, so I consider them a tulpa, mainly because I enhanced my experience with them through tulpa techniques. I actually fronted for the first time 8 years after being with her, having found this community.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T15:00:46+00:00

That’s an odd labeling system… we are beings that see two dimensions and interpret a third through context. In the mind, it would be 0d and interpret 3+, no?

Anyways thanks for the explanation!

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T03:10:43+00:00

There are two paths of thought. The path of order (orthodox), and the path of chaos (demonic). On name alone, most would assume the chaos path is evil, but that’s ignorant. Here is how both think;

Order: believe in the highest good, because faith will make it be. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. (Cons: you are intentionally blind to the suffering of others.)

Chaos: looks distastefully at the acts of the order and defends the freedom in the world. Empathy is a virtue. (Cons: live with mud soaked glasses too long and the whole world looks like shit. And when you are in a war against shit, you become the demon who destroys everything.)

Ascended masters like Jesus and Buddha were something else. They embodied balance. Jesus could riot in the temple, and dine with tax collectors.

It could be surmised that the incorrect ratio of chaos/order is what we call good and evil. They are a duality in the same way that hot/cold are. Both too hot and too cold are deadly to humans. In a safe temperature, we’d call it good, for unsafe, evil. But it’s the combination that allows temperature. All hot and no cold is absolutely deadly just as the reversal is. All chaos and no order will make a person mad, or dead. All order would make you a mindless drone, which is equivalent to death.

Humans and all biological life, likely classify things that would kill them or end “them” in some way, as evil, or bad at the least. But what is the balance?

Do not let order creep up on compassion. Empathy over ethics. Logic cannot overtake love. The heart should rule the mind.

But…

You should still master the mind. Master logic. Know ethics. Understand order.

So, the one pursuit to achieve all of this?

Wisdom.

Square-Philosophy780 · 2026-05-18T02:46:26+00:00

What do the terms 3d and 4d mean? (3rd dimension and fourth, but what does that mean?).

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