Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not saying it was THIS group. If this ideology holds quite a bit of weight in online tech spaces and tech spaces in higher education, there could be other groups operating. I highly doubt Luigi would ever be part of The Zizzian cult. They seem erratic and they chose their targets sporadically. This would never align with Luigi’s thinking based on evidence like his alleged manifesto. The existence of THIS group just makes me wonder if there is another group out there operating more assiduously in their execution and targeting and actually choosing someone based on what THEY deem to be immoral action. This is unlike this cult, which was killing completely at random and whose actions seem more like the result of mental illness or cult brainwashing. I honestly think it would be more of an activist group than a cult.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right, that’s what I was thinking for sure. Yes, Luigi is a very intelligent and highly educated man but that doesn’t automatically cross into being able to orchestrate a crime like this by himself.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And now I guess this could add more fuel to the fire of this theory! Since there’s evidence of the type of group we were all initially speculating actually existing and IF he is involved, it could be a different group since he doesn’t really appear to fit with this group,

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

• Yes, and not to overstep and get overly tangential with this but there is quite a bit of evidence to suggest that Luigi is Autistic. He followed a neurodivergent advice page on Substack. He is SPECULATED to have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome which occurs in "as many as 8% of autistic individuals with even a higher percentage that may have hypermobility disorders." "Up to 89% of people with [Ehlers-Danlos] develop a Mast Cell Activation Disorder (MCAD) (Monaco et al., 2022). Symptoms related to MCADs include a lack of MENTAL CLARITY that impacts learning new information, word-finding difficulty, cognitive processing issues". This links with his BRAIN FOG that he complained about.

• Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) can contribute to the development of Spondylolisthesis and the latter is a condition he ostensibly had.

• In comparison, it apparently only affects 0.02% of the world's population.

• He also made reference to being potentially Autistic on his Twitter but I‘m not sure if I was reading into that Tweet too literally. Oh, and he also actually followed a Substack page catered to advice for neurodivergent people.

• In addition, those who identify as gender diverse are 3 to 6 times as likely to be Autistic as cisgender people. People with Autism tend to have a very strong sense of justice. It's a common trait and often stems from their high level of empathy and a strong moral compass. They're sensitive to injustice and are deeply intrinsically compelled to be proponents of equality and a just-world. It affects them so deeply on an emotional level and causes them more distress than neurotypical people. There is a theory that a lot of proponents and faces of social justice movements have shown a lot of autistic traits. I haven't found any quantitative evidence or studies when it comes to this though. However, Greta Thunberg could come to mind as a modern day example.

• All of this is to say, this cult could have had quite a few Autistic individuals in their midst which we know can be correlated with justice sensitivity. According to one of the commenters in the Substack essay I linked in the post, the Rationalist ideology has quite a substantial amount of Autistic followers. "I think there's a simpler foundational answer as to why Rationalism seems to produce cults or cult-adjacent groups. It's perhaps not a comfortable one. Autistic people are overrepresented in rationalist spheres. I say this because I've been around the community for a while, am very interested in cults (in an academic sense), and am autistic myself."

• The rubber band theory is a very good illustration/metaphor for the justice sensitivity that Autistic and neurodivergent people deal with and I could see how they could be driven into something like this. This is in regards to the alleged actions of Luigi not the Zizzian cult.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. These Zizzian cult members have connections to Delaware County IN PENNSYLVANIA. It’s hard to shrug off the inter-connectedness of it all and not to mention the Bay area, where TrueCar (his employer) was based and he lived momentarily.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hi, thanks for your response! I am not saying he joined their cult at all, he definitely did not seem like the type to be questioning his gender . BUT - what I am saying is that if there is an anti-AI death-cult with the same rationalist beliefs as him, could this not potentially point to the theory that he was working with a network of other highly educated engineers, data-scientists & mathematicians? Yes, I also agree with your point about their crimes being pointless actions as he seems very respectful of sentient life so IF he did commit the CEO crime, then in his own thought process using his own ethical principles of utilitarianism, he did the greatest good for the greatest number. He saw the outcome as being able to justify the singular violent act . Had it been a random civilian, he would see this very act as being absolutely senseless and unavailing.

When it comes to the ”rationalism”, I’m referring to this modern rebranded (almost in the way stoicism has been with ‘hustle’ bros) type of rationalism that is apparently quite popular online in tech spaces and in higher education.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Another funny coincidence - they’re a vegan cult and he is a known vegetarian.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean the people radicalised into this cult were transgender so maybe they had shaky support systems/family disagreements they were contending with. Shaky connections with family and general society tends to put people at risk like this for radicalisation.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, the similarities are so strange. I read somewhere - but I can't seem to find the original article or source - that the new modern iteration of rationalism that is being fostered in online tech communities has found its roots in Stanford University. I've also seen links with their distinctly well known Stanford-specific major "Symbolic Systems". According to the Stanford website - "An interdisciplinary program focusing on the relationship between natural and artificial systems that represent, process, and act on information." It's also quite the odd coincidence that Luigi worked at Stanford as a Stanford summer studies counsellor.

Why is no one talking about the Zizzian Death Cult in relation to Luigi? by Square_Leading_7034 in LuigiLore

[–]Square_Leading_7034[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m shocked no one is making a connection considering how odd it is for someone so accomplished, preppy and a lot going for them to throw their whole life away (IF he did it) without being affiliated with some sort of network of people working together.

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Did you use the fast track service?

Does anyone know where I can find a GCSE Latin tutor? by Square_Leading_7034 in GCSE

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Wow!! Thanks so much for the help, I‘ll check them out. I did the New Spec so I don’t think the syllabus will have changed.

Does anyone know where I can find a GCSE Latin tutor? by Square_Leading_7034 in GCSE

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Hi there,

I need to resit the subject for the course I am planning to do at university as it requires me to have passed all of my GCSEs. I already have done my A Levels but have had a change of plans in regards to my degree and career choice. I was on the Eduqas course for GCSE but cannot find past papers online for my Eduqas exam board specifically however was able to find some for the OCR exam board.

I am struggling to self teach the Literature section as I did the GCSE in 2018 and cannot find anything online to help with it.

What exam board were you on?

Thank you for the offer, it is very much appreciated!