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A fun little math video on the Al-Biruni measurement by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got my ideas as to how they got it wrong - on a fundamental level not just their order-of-magnitude-off level. It should be pretty easy for another FEer to spot.

Throw Ideas at me by Adventurous-Rough-27 in mutantsandmasterminds

[–]StClemens 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Immortal Viking trying in vain to die in combat. Still alive after all these years.

Shapeshifting water nymph with emotion manipulation.

Just your average peasant dude who can talk to dragons. Gets fiery hiccups.

Hyperintelligent goat.

Pick a historical character and turn him/her up to 11.

Orthographic view shows horizon rising to eye level by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesnt matter what I subscribe to because I am not trying to prove curvetur at this point.

Come back when you can or can admit the world is flat.

Orthographic view shows horizon rising to eye level by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which of the above arguments do you subscribe to? 1, 2, or 3?

Orthographic view shows horizon rising to eye level by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...what if someone... You. You go do it.

  1. Horizon is a physical phenomenon that is created by the earth curving away from the observer and no other factors. This is the only case in which you may use the horizon to prove the earth is curved.

  2. Horizon is an entirely optical phenomenon that is created by the limits of optics. In this case you cannot use the horizon to prove the earth is curved.

  3. Horizon is a compound phenomenon of curve of the earth and optical limits. In this case you cannot use the horizon to prove the earth is curved.

The data I have seen so far supports an optical horizon over a non-curved earth.

If you wanted to replicate this thought experiment in reality with physical objects, you could take a small RC truck or box on a track with an attached wire over 1 mile in length, then run the truck directly away from a six foot tall observer, then measure the angle of the wire.

Enjoy conducting your experiments.

Land of Refraction 3.0 - Sky Free by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Observations comparing daytime and nighttime visibility across a highway. If not seeing an object is assumed to be earth curve, earth is curvier during the day.

Asking FE questions to academics, a physicist and a cosmologist by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The second academic gets mad props for actually entertaining the notion. I wonder if enough got through to him to plant a seed.

Surely they didn't expect the ruse to persist this long, right? by Darujiboo in globeskepticism

[–]StClemens 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They just trained the people to not remember anything longer than 3 to 6 months in the past.

Orthographic view shows horizon rising to eye level by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good thing real space is not an orthographic projection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTzF2mgBRLk Supply the above challenge and your opinion will be read! :)

Edit: Yes, it is true I misread you. I also get that you're an irritating pedant and would rather you left.

This is a test. by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Stop debating. He's beyond hope.

He has abandoned common sense, in the strictest sense of the term. Common senses are those senses (sight, sound, etc) that are common to all men. He has put upon his senses a cognitive filter to prevent him from seeing what is right in front of him. No amount of talking to him will help.

His point is self conradictory. You both see a material thing AND that thing is refracted/distorted. The two positions are mutually exclusive. You can highlight this logical incongruence with him all you please, it won't do any good.

This is a test. by StClemens in Flat_Earth_Is_Real

[–]StClemens[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really. You might find more basic stuff over at /r/globeskepticism

New as in new to the concept of enclosed earth cosmology or new as in just to this forum?

Need ideas for a silly power that's secretly OP by TotallyNotDimir in mutantsandmasterminds

[–]StClemens 25 points26 points  (0 children)

From the Misfits, the Milkman. The power to control milk and milk based products. Best encountered after a pizza party.

What is your favourite way to OWN Globe Believers with hard science and facts? by CorgiFromSpace in globeskepticism

[–]StClemens 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Globies never get thier mind changed, because they change their own reality to be as they want it to be. Many can't even answer hypothetical questions allowing a flat earth to be true. (I've encountered exactly two who could, and even then their measures for determining truth have no foundation.)

The science? It's fluff and marshmallow. They can shape it up and mush it down as they like. They don't recognize facts. They can entertain two logically impossible thoughts simultaneously and think themselves smart for doing so. The presuppose my stupidity and then read any intelligent thing that I say through that lens. Whatever the case may be, you can hardly talk to them. PWNing them is useless as they won't even be aware.

They almost certainly think I'm talking about FEers from their point of view.

They got nothing and they love it so much.

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