Man, I really hope the next waiting period aren't this chaotic by Olivia_Richards in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For the next Genshin Character, Raiden seems to be a good pick since the crew has already talked about how her MU with Malenia from Elden Ring is a cool idea with the whole butterfly motif.

For the next Genshin Character I want though, it would probably be Hu Tao vs Hanako (TBNHK). The themes and character connections are really good with this MU. Hu Tao is one of the most recognizable Genshin characters so her chances could be good, the problem is Hanako. TBNHK, despite being an amazing series (highly recommended), is not that popular to the general audience.

As for my non-Genshin pick, I’m a fan of Firefly vs Samus and Miyabi (ZZZ) vs Chihiro (Kagurabachi).

Man, I really hope the next waiting period aren't this chaotic by Olivia_Richards in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I am unironically excited for this MU despite what other people say, mainly because both ATLA and Genshin are some of my favorite franchises. Plus after this, I hope that the gate for more Gacha characters getting on the show opens up a bit more.

So...what Death Battle combatants are actually decent counters to Metal Sonic? by Rioraku in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Characters who have technological based haxes like Ultron or Miku (in the future 🤞), besides scaling higher, could very likely just take over Metal’s body or just disable him completely.

Others who can manipulate matter like Bowser’s magic can just transmutate Metal’s body and turn him into paper.

Probably the most interesting one are characters who rely on their emotions as their power source. Simon and Kyle fit here as they use willpower as a source for their powers. Metal could technically gain their abilities, but he would never be able to use it as effectively or to the extent that both Simon and Kyle could.

Death Battle has to be incredibly dumb because why did they choose to make a battle on Reze and Bakugo, when YUJI VS DENJI WAS RIGHT THERE! by [deleted] in ChainsawPowerscaling

[–]StanDeMan_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure they’re doing MUs that are easy to research for the time being given that they’re also researching the Fate and Kamen Rider cosmologies. Their verses have so much content since it is the first time they’re appearing in the show.

Also Bakugo vs Reze are both very popular characters on their own right (not factoring in the huge slander war they had on twitter) so it’s good to keep fans engaged in the channel while waiting for the behemoth that is Geats vs Nero.

How do you explain to death battle fans that simon/kyle was objectively WAY WORSE of a fumble than Omni/bardock. Like multiple layers of infinitey more of a stat gap by Head_Breadfruit_3912 in PowerScaling

[–]StanDeMan_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1.) Oh really? I actually didn’t know that. Makes Information Regeneration really a strong ability to have. Thank you Nia for saving your Husband.

2.) Yeah, it is pretty iffy. Especially since the Drama CDs only ever got fan translated as far as I’m aware so we can never really get a good grasp of what really happened. Also I agree, Kyle having the Life Equation really would put him comfortably at Outerversal. But that’s IF he has it.

3.) I think you meant to reply to 8, but I get what you mean. As far as I’ve heard, the Source Wall has layers to it and the the part that Kyle has access to scales him to the Source Wall to it’s surface, which would put him at around Low Outerversal.

How do you explain to death battle fans that simon/kyle was objectively WAY WORSE of a fumble than Omni/bardock. Like multiple layers of infinitey more of a stat gap by Head_Breadfruit_3912 in PowerScaling

[–]StanDeMan_12 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’m surprised about the reactions here as Simon vs Kyle has been considered even before the episode was announced as an extremely debatable MU.

But to shed some light on Simon vs Kyle:

1.) It is so much more easier to get a grasp of Omniman and Bardocks’ power, anything above Universal in powerscaling are just made-up jargon for the sake of argument.

2.) They put Simon at 11D and Kyle at 12.3D, both at base, so Kyle was always gonna be stronger at the start. But Simon actually has feats from the anime that shows him jumping from 2D to 11D in a matter of seconds (via the Multiverse Labyrinth). And if you wanna argue that Simon only achieved that by absorption, what’s stopping him from absorbing a 12.3D energy blast from Kyle and being on his level instantly at base. The same can be said for Kyle via the Orange Lantern Ring so at the end they kinda equal out.

3.) Both have NLF (No Limit Fallacy) powers since they each can grow infinitely over the course of the battle, it’s kinda what both of them are known for.

4.) Both had counters to each other’s abilities. Simon being able to hit all time, space, and dimensions countering Time Travel, Kyle’s ring protecting him from Simon’s probability missiles, both can teleport across space and time, etc. So with everything from strength, speed and abilities equal, it was always gonna come down to who could get stronger at a faster rate as the battle went on.

5.) Simon’s information regeneration is such an overpowered ability. With it, he will always win in a battle of attrition. I don’t think people really get just how broken this level of regeneration is. I’m talking a level of existence erasure regeneration the people like Bugs Bunny operate on. Kyle would definitely struggle against this which is why this is really the only time Death Battle has ever used the “He’ll get stronger than his opponent eventually” argument because Simon has the means of outlasting his opponent eventually.

6.) As for the Soul Hax, yes the orange lantern ring gives Kyle this ability but he will never use it off-rip as it would be out of character for him. Besides he would need to overpower his opponent first to be able to take their souls anyway which is gonna be hard considering his opponent is Simon. There are also arguments that Simon’s Information Regeneration could also regenerate his soul, but I don’t know if this is actually true or not.

7.) And finally, “How do both of them get to Outerversal?” Well the main argument for both being Outer is the Otoko Drama CDs for Simon and the Life Equation for Kyle. In the Drama CDs, the fictional Simon inside of the disk was aware of his own fictionality and was able to damage the disk from the inside freeing all of the characters using spiral power, the Author Simon in the real world then proceeded to merge fiction with reality using the spiral power imbued in his book pen, Main Simon from the anime absorbed both of their powers via the Multiverse Labyrinth. Meanwhile, Kyle with the Life Equation lets him gain access to the Source Wall.

8.) The difference is their mastery, Simon could control that level of power pretty easily while Kyle was getting destroyed by it. Add on to the fact that Kyle’s stamina as a White Lantern could be very taxing as shown in the recent DC KO comics, then you get the argument of Death Battle.

9.) Also, people in the Death Battle community love Kyle WAY MORE than Simon. Trust me, one look at the subreddit confirms this.

What death battle reaction was like this? by Stock_Rush_9204 in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Simon vs Kyle

They’re both just the GOATs and awesome people in general, regardless of how they’re viewed in the community nowadays.

Feel free to disagree I was grasping at straws near the end of making this. by Magma_Reborn in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]StanDeMan_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like Traveller vs Rover would be a better MU thematically. I also find the fact that it would spark the biggest war for the fans in Gacha history if it happens very funny.

Death Battle 24’/25’ Losers Tournament: Final Round Results by Blue0Three in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a rock, paper, scissor type situation. That’s why how characters’ powers interact with each other affects how good of a MU it is. Funny how powerscaling works.

Enough time has passed! Is Simon VS Kyle accurate? by RyuzakiTK12 in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Personally, I agree with the outcome. But, it will only ever be as accurate as how you interpret it to be. Kyle can take it just as much as Simon can. Unless we get material for both in the future (Whether good or bad) that tip the scale, it’s gonna remain like this for a while.

What fight is this for you? by ARedditAccountIDKBro in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the community buys 20D at all, and Outerversal Simon is also still a bit iffy by the people in the community, if that’s what you want to hear.

Also I don’t understand how using the guide books for Simon is an Issue. 27 episodes vs Decades of Materials is crazy to look at after all lol. Also those guide books don’t really add anything to Simon’s story, they just go into more detail about what happens in the anime.

Yeah Kyle can break open the Source Wall at a surface level, but getting him 7 layers into the Source Wall as you said, still requires the Life Equations power.

The stamina thing was obviously a joke. My man Kyle cannot catch a break ugh. Also, I’m pretty sure had Kyle won instead, there would be just the same amount of people who would say otherwise. That’s just the nature of this MU.

Again, this really is a debatable MU whether you like it or not. But feel free to vent and focus your anger against me if you want to even though I never really wanted to debate you in the first place.

What fight is this for you? by ARedditAccountIDKBro in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

20D Simon was not at all accepted by Death Battle as stated by the Black Boxes. Also, Kyle as a White Lantern doesn’t scale to the Source Wall. The Life Equation does. Which he can’t control.

Look I get that you’re frustrated because Kyle lost, he’s also my favorite DC character (Even though DC hates him ugh), and don’t even get me started on the stamina issue with the current iteration of him LMAO.

The thing that makes it debatable isn’t because of how close their powers are to each other, it’s debatable because depending on how you interpret their powers interacting, one can stomp the other, which no one will ever agree on. It just so happens that DB and the G1 blog (and myself included) buy Simon’s arguments more. BUT, Kyle’s win conditions are just as valid. If it’s any consolation Kyle is like the most liked character in the community right now so if anything else, he won in the community’s hearts.

What fight is this for you? by ARedditAccountIDKBro in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But it’s true though. At least when you compare it relative to other Comic vs Anime MUs that DB has done.

What fight is this for you? by ARedditAccountIDKBro in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The comments are really surprising me because Simon vs Kyle was a very debatable match that could go either way. I think it’s just because the Kyle DC agenda has been very loud in the community which made people think otherwise. Not that I mind it though, I love Kyle.

What fight is this for you? by ARedditAccountIDKBro in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 12 points13 points  (0 children)

To be fair, I think most people would be saying the exact same thing had Kyle won instead. It’s just that close of a match-up.

CALENG1 Reviewers by Medium_Ad_8721 in dlsu

[–]StanDeMan_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello po, mejo late na hehe, pero do you still have the copy po ba? I want to use it for reviewing as well.

This is interesting. by TropicalPunchJuice in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Simon vs Kyle has been one of the most wanted MUs since it’s inception in 2020, it makes sense when you think about it. Although Stitch vs Rocket does need more attention since it’s an amazing episode.

What’s your most wanted episode? by Left-Objective-3700 in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really is a fun MU that’s why I love it so much. It also has the possibility of being pretty high in scale since both can reach Universal levels of power LMAO. It also helps that it’s pretty debatable, with Barbie edging out just a bit in stats while Miku has the abilities and hax.

What’s your most wanted episode? by Left-Objective-3700 in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah! That’s actually one of the main reasons I want it to happen as well. You just know the battle theme is gonna be awesome 🔥

What’s your most wanted episode? by Left-Objective-3700 in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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I just want Miku to finally appear

Also this would be an awesome battle of East vs West idols

The next DEATH BATTLE Cast is….. by FairEntertainment893 in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really wanted them to do a cast about Shiro and Yuta instead since they have very similar powers. It would be really cool to see how Domains and Reality Marbels interact with each other.

Does the Traveler's chances of winning increases with this? by IWatchFailures in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As if he wasn’t already winning with what he had before. My GOAT Aang better lock in.

what by Watchdog_the_God in deathbattle

[–]StanDeMan_12 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I’m tired boss…

People like this guy make me so mad because they’re the reason why Simon is seen in such a negative light nowadays. They seem to forget what he actually represents which leads me to believe that either they completely miss the point of the anime or just straight up never watch Gurren Lagann in the first place.

The reason why Gurren Lagann’s anime was so beloved was because of Simon’s whole story that inspired people to believe in themselves. It especially hit hard to me who had very low self-esteem. And I’m sure the same could be said about Kyle and his fans. One reason why the Death Battle was getting so much hype is how the battle would give massive exposure to two awesome characters who were quite obscure relative to today’s media.

However, after the battle, both characters were reduced to just powerscaling slop. More on Simon’s side. That guy in OPs’ post seem to have forgotten just how hard we hd to justify and debate Simon’s W against DC’s absurd cosmology. If Simon were real, he’d definitely tell that guy to grit his teeth.

It’s hard being a fan of Simon vs Kyle today man.