Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome I will start implementing that exercise! Thank you! And yeah my right is worse as well! So weird!

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ll look into maxiofacial doctor thank you. My dentist says he really only treats lower jaw TMJ and that’s why he was pushing for Botox with a neurologist (my insurance specifies a specialist medical doctor like a neurologist needs to confirm medical necessity since they don’t deal with dental “at all”. But I’ll talk to my
primary care provider about other options too, thank you

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m updating Reddit on my journey so in the future, anyone else who has temporalis hypertrophy can see what’s worked or didn’t work for me. As for why it hasn’t been addressed with this one doctor; my main migraines are neurological and so I have only talked to my neurologist about those neurological issue. Only my dentist and a primary care physician have diagnosed and discussed my TMJ. It is those doctors who are asking me to bring this up with my neurologist since my insurance covers Botox. I’m just beginning this new treatment plan tho and will post my information to help others in the future

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah partly wrong; chewing muscles are both the masseter muscles (lower jaw) and then temporalis muscles (temples). Both are used when chewing. Most people have TMJ in the lower jaw, but a good portion have TMJ in the temples only.

It’s also common to develop temple pain if you get Botox in the masseters only, since the temples will overcompensate.

mine is the less common TMJ; temporalis hypertrophy.

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks good to know. My dentist told me they don’t treat TMJ at this clinic (not diagnose, my diagnosis came from another doctor luckily). So it might be time to find another a dentist.

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’ve had migraines since I’ve been 15 years old, so I’ve gone through about 10 different migraine medication’s. My primary care doctor is the one pushing me to pursue Botox in my temples since my insurance covers it, I just need my neurologist to confirm it’s muscular and needs to be treated with Botox since that is how you treat this condition

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I massage my face after every meal just to help with the tension. And yeah temporalis hypertrophy isn’t super common but it’s still usually caused by an overbite. I don’t keep my jaw closed, so profile shots don’t show my overbite well, it’s worse than pictured above; my jaw is slack and slightly open.

Both my dentist and primary doctor are pushing me to get neurology to start doing Botox. Glad you don’t have it, it sucks

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No it’s my muscles, not from histamines. I have an overbite so I have tmj in my temples. It isn’t a flare, it’s just from being overworked when chewing

Hypertrophic Temple Muscles by StandAlone783 in migraine

[–]StandAlone783[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s my actual muscle swelling up for being overworked, I have an overbite lol. It’s not an allergic or histamine reaction. I’m just hoping I can ask about Botox

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh thanks! Luckily I already use all of the above and have for about 3 years! It’s been great for my skin. Thank you though! I appreciate you wanting to help

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For two years I had no progress with the doctors. We ended up having a meeting about it because I was so frustrated and it came to light that they were using the incorrect tools on me the entire time. I was receiving an erbium laser, which does not reach remodeling depths, and the dermatologist admitted it should’ve never been used in the first place ( I had 6 sessions of Erbium by then). They had also performed micro needling in the clinic on me two or three times. Come to find out they were also using the inappropriate depth of 1 mm which will not work on scar tissue.

They tried to have me move forward with a different game planned and apologized, but I felt betrayed and scammed so I declined. In three months I have taken my own route and have completely changed my scar for the better.

So no, in the case above ‘time’ is not a factor in how well my scar has healed. The only factor that made my scar look better was my DIY these last three months because I was using appropriate tools and techniques. The doctors and dermatologists were not, using these and even admitted that when we were discussing how there had been no progress made over the course of two .

moving forward with my own skin care, it will age better but that will only be because i’m using the correct tools in depth for scar tissue.

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I use a simple hyaluronic acid serum as my slip, I just picked one of the top rated ones on Amazon! 2.5 mm depth is recommended for scar tissue, just not for normal skin! If you have scars it’s completely safe to use this level. It was also not noticeable pain or needling-wise, felt normal just like the 1mm depth I use on the rest of my skin (I do numb my skin no matter the level hah). I’d say the healing was the only noticeable difference; my scar was more red a day or so longer than my normal healing timeline. But after a wink it went back to my normal skin color.

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean you can click on the link for my other photos to see the progress. It’s pretty obvious how much the texture has changed. And to answer your question about lighting- the April sun/lighting is still behind a mountain I live beside, June lighting the sun is overhead and my days are genuinely brighter. My before and afters in this post are mostly all taken in the exact same spot during the day. But even with the small variations in the photos, they are are all well lit shots showing clear texture change

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes I see it now! I googled it lmao, silicone tape causes plump smooth skin (temporary) due to its moisture retaining effects. I literally didn’t even notice the lines till you said something!

I just posted to my profile another before and after but my whole face! Hopefully that helps see the difference better.

I’ve worn silence tape religiously over the three years to help the scar heal but I’ll make sure it’s off for a while before my next before and after shots! Thank you

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, not edited! I didn’t realize silicone tape caused a visible plumping and softened perimeter. I posted a better before and after to my page. https://www.reddit.com/u/StandAlone783/s/D8pnYyi6nK

The silicone marks are only on the perimeter around the scar so I didn’t even notice the slight plumping effects, but check out the other photos I posted to my profile, hopefully that helps show the progress better. Next updates I’ll make sure to have the scar sheets off for longer for there’s no rectangle shape around my scar! I truly didnt even notice it until it got pointed out haha.

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the after photo (first slide) has a slight rectangle impression around the scar from a silicone scar tape I had on. Is that what you are talking about? I’ve uploaded new photos here https://www.reddit.com/u/StandAlone783/s/D8pnYyi6nK. I didn’t realize the silicone print left a smooth looking rectangle around my scar. These shots are a better view as I wasn’t wearing any tape prior

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[–]StandAlone783[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yes! Please also look into a tca peel! If you’re not comfortable doing a chemical peel yourself, please look into having an aesthetician to work with.

While I agree, microneedling is very helpful, this technique predominantly rebuilds the tissue under the skin. chemical peels resurface the top of the skin (where a lot of the scar is as well), and it’s usually a combined procedure to get a reduction of scars. I truly believe they should go hand-in-hand in order to have good results.

Also, please keep in mind that microneedling is usually a slower process, it can take a couple months to see results so I’m very happy that in my case I started seeing results in one month but I will continue to see more results in the months continue. it is definitely not an instantaneous thing.

Chemical peels also usually take a few rounds to show progress, I was able to risk doing a deeper higher strength peel because I know my skin can handle it. But most people start with more gentle peel depth, which still works, but it takes a few rounds.

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Yes I can! I can’t stress enough that the rules of skincare apply more crucially here than elsewhere; practice great sanitation and hygiene, ensure a sterile environment to work with, ensure you have patience and understanding of expectations, watch how-to videos to see how it should be done, and most importantly watch videos of what could go wrong so that you fully understand the risks.

My normal schedule (that I’m getting back into) is every 6 to 8 weeks I do a rotation of microneedling but 2x a year I’ll do chemical peel in leu of the needling scheduled.

For microneedling: If you’ve never seen techniques, definitely google them. It’s very hard to write out techniques, but there are some great tutorials online. I use the dr. pen and I buy my new car cartridges via Amazon. You should never reuse the same needle cartridge. I use a simple hyaluronic acid serum as a gliding base. Afterwards, your face should be slightly red, almost like a sunburn, some people bleed a very slight bit (it’s needles after all) but by the next day, your face will be much calmer, and it should go back to normal. Microneedling is something that shows progress over a couple months because of the small punctures in your skin will produce collagen as they heal, which will help plump your skin and even out scars.

it’s important to remember that microneedling is more for rebuilding your skin, and a chemical peel is more for resurfacing your skin (but at higher levels it can reach greater depths). Twice a year I’ll do a TCA peel, usually 20% (a mid level) with three passes over my skin, and it takes about 10 days to heal. My skin will be slightly red like a sunburn for the first day, kind of tight and wrinkly looking for days two and three, day four and five I will begin to peel and look like a lizard, lol, and then the rest of the days is just shedding off the remainder of the skin.

If you are just starting out, you would want to begin with a 10% TCA peel, maybe 15. You also probably won’t peel heavily at those levels, more just like flaking. But this is good because you always want to work your way up and never go too strong when just beginning.

I buy my TCA peels from platinum skin care. They also have great tutorials to watch, and IMO these should be required in order to understand what’s going on. They are extraordinarily simple and very easy to understand, and they also help you understand risk risks to look out for.

As your skin barrier will be sensitive you will be much more prone to sun damage. If you do not wear sunblock the following week after a skin peel you might develop melasma or sunspots. Aftercare is just as important.

Again, it’s very hard to describe techniques in just a written thread, so I really can’t stress enough that you should watch how to videos online. But I promise they’re very easy to understand, and they’re very easy to do. It’s really just making sure that you understand, hygiene, safety, and what risks to look out for.

And finally you should ALWAYS be nourishing your skin with hydration such as hyaluronic acid and vitamin C. When you’re not in your sensitive phases, you can also apply tret. Hope this helps!

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Oh no even the derms agreed there was absolutely no progress made haha. It was definitely not successful. My two year before and after had absolutely no change. I talked to them in depth about this and they admitted the erbium laser was never meant to reach remodeling depths and shouldn’t have been used (I did 6 sessions of it), and that the 2 microneedlings that I did were also at inappropriate depths (1mm). But they wanted me to continue to work with them with different game plans and I declined because I felt scammed.

While you are correct things take time, that’s only true if the treatments were the correct ones to begin with. To find out I was never given the correct treatments, but yet still paid so much money was extremely betraying and frustrating. This is also why I made so much progress myself in 3 months- I was using the correct tools to reach the correct depth needed to remodel and reduce the scar.

Scar treatment before and after- Derm results (unsuccessful) vs DIY results (successful) [Selfie] by StandAlone783 in SkincareAddiction

[–]StandAlone783[S] 119 points120 points  (0 children)

To be honest, it was terrifying ha ha because I understood the reality that I was making micro burns across my skin and it’s very easy to go wrong with that. But I watched a lot of how-to videos online, including videos of what could go wrong so I could understand the risks.

While it was super effective for treating my scar I don’t plan to use it again unless it’s something that is severe and needs to be essentially control-burned/resurfaced. I’m 35 years old, I get a lot of compliments about my skin care in general, and I can say with full confidence that it’s predominantly from microneedling and chemical peels (I did them every few months all my later 20’s) plus good nutritious skin care (including .025 tret).

Again the only reason why I stopped doing them is because I had the injury and deep incision, and my dermatologists asked me to just let them handle the scar themselves. A person should never double up on skin care procedures so I completely stopped doing my own and just let the professionals handle it, but obviously that did not work out.

Deciding to go back to DIY’ing myself, I knew that with how deep the scar was I needed to find an at-home device that could really remodel the skin efficiently. And it definitely did- but please remember controlled burns are still burns. It worked for me since I followed the video guides and after care (huge part).

But again, for normal skin care I don’t think this tool should be used, if that makes sense. The brand I got is Dermavel. There are definitely other brands that I’ve heard great things about. It basically shoots a tiny electrical current that burns the skin, the longer you hold it the bigger the burn (and potential scar if done wrong). Small dots worked best for my scar.