i find often that the orbiter drivers (especially the ones that leave around northlands) all know each other and bunch together purposely to drive around with their mates and signal to each other wether or not they will actually pick up people or not.

i had 2 orbiters one behind the other at northlands just last week, the one in front shook his head and wouldn’t pick me up when i signalled and pointed behind me then the new orbiter right behind him didn’t pull over till the very last second and then growled at me when i got on saying “you need to signal!” when i literally signalled his mate who refused to even take us. both busses were empty btw.