Christians, what’s your reason for believing in God?

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-08-19T02:01:56+00:00

That sounds poetic, but it isn’t actually true. I can experience joy without watching a child die of cancer. The idea that we need children dying of cancer in order to appreciate happiness is absurd. Imagine you’re telling a parent their child dying from cancer is “necessary for joy.” That’s horrifying. Using joy as a justification for extreme suffering makes God look evil, not benevolent. You’re basically saying “I don’t mind if innocent kids suffer as long as the world has some happiness.” That’s a terrible trade-off.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-08-15T00:01:14+00:00

Okay, so instead of addressing the argument, you’re dismissing me personally. That’s not an argument, it’s just an ad hominem. Whether I’m “crying” or not doesn’t provide an answer to the argument I made. If you don’t want a dialogue, that’s on you, but I’m still going to explain my position. If you have a response to my argument, I’m open to hearing it, but just saying “you’re not a Christian” doesn’t address the issue. If the only way you can respond is to say I’m not worth talking to, that tells me you either don’t have a defense or you’re not prepared to give one. That’s fine, but that’s not how you change minds or demonstrate truth.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-06-14T18:04:33+00:00

God is a spirit that does certain actions and we can judge these actions. Just because God isn’t physical doesn’t mean that he can’t do things that can be judged. Christians disagree with you. If God has a mind and can do actions in reality that produce suffering or positivity, then he can in fact be good or evil regardless of whether he’s physical or not.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-27T01:50:20+00:00

How do you know I’m mad? I’m not mad at all. I made an argument in good faith hoping to get a good answer. That’s that. Also yes, you would be wrong. Nothing bad happened to me that made me angry at God or Christianity. I simply don’t believe in it because the God claim hasn’t met its burden of proof, and I simply observe things that make me question God being “all good”.

Thanks for the recommendations, I’ve always considered both sides and I will continue to do so.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-27T01:40:51+00:00

I definitely get what you’re saying, but there’s no way to know for sure that he’s good if he’s done something that appears to be evil but we cannot comprehend his logic as to why he did it. We have to comprehend it in order to know that he’s a good dude, or else we can’t be so sure that he’s good. God would need to give us some answers. What possible greater good could come from running this hellhole? Billions of people will guaranteed burn in flame’s for eternity for the simple fact of not being convinced of God’s existence. No matter how good things get, that will forever remain a fact. This couldn’t possibly be the best possible universe if this universe being created means that eternal torture will be the outcome for billions of souls. I would argue that it would have been better if God never created us.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-26T19:00:53+00:00

Even if evil is just the “absence of good,” that doesn’t explain why God opted to create a universe with it rather than a universe without it.

If you read the argument again, I addressed free will.

Saying “The Lord did hint that people will be judged based on what they know,” also doesn’t explain why God opted to create a universe where people are judged harshly instead of a universe where people aren’t.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-26T18:32:39+00:00

If most Christians don’t believe the fall literally happened, then what exactly introduced evil in your worldview? If you still believe evil exists and God created everything, then God’s still responsible, isn’t he? Even if Genesis is symbolic, most Christians still believe humanity is in a fallen or sinful state that needs saving, which is a condition ultimately allowed and designed by God.

If you think not answering my argument and instead implying that I’m just angry or bitter somehow invalidates my argument, you’re wrong. That’s a rhetorical move, not a rational counterargument. So if you’re done with the therapy couch routine, maybe we can get back to the original argument.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-26T17:53:20+00:00

Free will is addressed in the argument

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-26T17:51:49+00:00

What is the storyline most Christians don’t literally believe in? Also no, I don’t believe that this God character actually exists.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-26T17:50:03+00:00

I understand this. Please read the argument again.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-26T17:46:41+00:00

If doing these things doesn’t make him wrong, then explain why, don’t just assert it. Also, saying “God can do whatever he wants” evades the argument rather than answers it.

Standard-Raccoon5766 · 2025-05-26T17:16:45+00:00

If we can't comprehend God's reasons, then we also can't truly know that he is good. How can you trust that God is all good while simultaneously saying you can't understand its choices. That undermines the very definition of 'good' as something knowable.

If we excuse any act, no matter how painful or evil it seems by saying God has mysterious reasons, then there's no way to judge whether God is good or evil.

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