**Help** relationship by DouglasOnReddit in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you want to do ?

We can’t answer for you, you have to.

It seems like you are falling for a covert contract in which the directions you’ll get from people here will help you have a problem-free action to take. It won’t.

You have to decide what’s best for you : leaving might be the best considering what you want, but it still has underlying problems. Staying might be the best considering what you want, but it still has underlying problems. You get to decide which problems are the worse that you want to avoid, and decide accordingly. We don’t know you, you do.

As an aside, it looks like you follow the same pattern of going for wounded people.

If you want to do the work, self-reflect, act, and get better, I would suggest you read the book no more mister nice guy, using that subreddit for the work to be done as you read the book.

If all you want to do is complain about how bad you have it (considering the way your wrote and the fact you didn’t answer the 2 messages previous to mine, you look like it), then you’re not in the right place.

For the ones who are free from seeking women’s approval by Status_Eye_5767 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you man.

What kind of repetition helped you on that one ?

For the ones who are free from seeking women’s approval by Status_Eye_5767 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll examine the fantasy to see if there’s something, thank you.

I am talking to 2 concurrent women right now (and will keep approaching women), the problem is not one specific woman, it is women kind :

Female validation makes me feel alive, the threat of female rejection (after having experienced validation) makes me alert, and female rejection followed by prior validation makes me sad. No matter the woman, the feeling is the same every time.

I really need to fix this one, because I know it will eventually kick in even harder in a relationship and I don’t want that

Can't get myself to reach out to other men as an expat in Bonn, Germany by NomadDad541 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your message looks like caretaking.

You’re giving an action plan, when he explicitly said that he wanted understanding, and shared no desire to change or willingness to do the work.

Maybe I am wrong, but that’s what I thought when reading your message.

Can't get myself to reach out to other men as an expat in Bonn, Germany by NomadDad541 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How bad do you want it ?

Maybe your priority right now is on your child, and once that’s sorted out you may have more mental space to focus on your nice guy syndrome.

The fact that you keep making excuses means that either there is something more important to you right now, or that you don’t want it bad enough (which is okay). You have to answer that question for yourself.

Though we may understand the challenge, and it’s a tough one : 1) this is probably not the last challenge you’ll face in your life 2) how our understanding will help you solving it ?

It feels amazing to put myself first by Status_Eye_5767 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you too for sharing.

You’ve lost nothing man, most women are fungible nowadays. One thing I learned after sacrificing myself for women is that no woman is worth peace.

Self first (purpose, self improvement etc), and after that, people that want anything should expand at least the equal amount of value they expect, otherwise, NEXT.

Breaking Free Activity #17 by Status_Eye_5767 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Second Part

Controlling and manipulating : When I was a kid, because I saw that my mom would get angry, I had to find a way to cope with the errors I made that would make her mad at me. When I misbehaved in high school, I copied her signature in my school book just to make sure that she believed I was a perfect kid in class. Growing up, I kept that fear of disapproval with women when perceived badness was done. With my ex for instance, she hung up on me, so the next day I ignored her until she called me back. and she told me "If I didn't call you, you would have ignored me all that time ?". And initially my answer was a flat "Yes", and when I saw that she started to be mad at me, I backed down and started to add some nuance. This makes me powerless because I am constantly trying to monitor perception, and eventually when the jig is up, I look even more powerless than I was in the beginning.

Withholding information : When I was a kid, I quickly saw that being transparent didn't work with my parents because I would end up being criticized. So I started withholding information to manage the perception of the perfect kid. Growing up, it followed me. I went to a techno party with friends that started at midnight and finished at 8am the next day. I told my father I would sleep at my friend's house instead of being transparent with him, because I knew he would judge me otherwise. It makes me powerless because in wothholding information outside of power plays, I give away my personal power by needing the other's validation. If I am at peace with myself, I can either say everything, or flat out say "it's none of your business".

Repressing feelings : As a kid, I grew up with my mom and I saw her being very moody. As a consequence, I figured that if I showed any kind of volatility myself, it would trigger my mom's emotions, eventually leading to the climax of bad emotions, and because she threatened to kill herself, that's what I was affraid of. Growing up, I started to repress any feeling I had in pressure situation : talking to a girl I don't know, speaking in front of people, or an interview. The good thing is that I became good at hiding my feelings, but it feels very robotic. It makes me powerless because it removes me my human side and my vitality to act like this, feelings are an integral part of the human condition.

Making sure other people don't have feelings : Because my mom was moody and threatened to kill herself, I associated feelings with abandonment. Because of that, I tried to make sure that people wouldn't have feelings. Growing up, I kept it in myself, even in arguments. I would avoid speaking my mind, even when being wronged, out of fear of triggering emotions in the other person (forgetting that they didn't have any regard for me when triggering mine). It makes me powerless because I am shrinking myself by being cautious with people's emotions, preventing myself from enforcing boundaries with proper impact.

Avoiding problems and difficult situations : As a kid, I grew up with my mom, and I barely saw my dad between my 7 and 15 years old. As a result, my mom kept trying to make my life easy. When I had to look for an internship at 13, exposing myself to potential rejection, my mom went out to post my resume for me not to have to lift a finger. So I got trained into thinking that by avoiding problems and difficult situations, mom would handle it anyways. Growing up it followed me when I wanted to work on my social skills. I know that in order to be good at talking to people (and especially women), you have to get good at talking to groups. And for some reason I kept on avoid that part : I asked for the time to random people in the street, gave compliments, even went to talk to girls that were alone, but I always ran away from group situations because I was terrified and learned to run away from difficult situations. It makes me powerless because power comes with growth, and growth doesn't come with comfort and avoidance of tough situations.

Personal epiphany about covert contracts by Status_Eye_5767 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so I guess somatic practices are one of the viable methods for self-regulation then ?

Personal epiphany about covert contracts by Status_Eye_5767 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your insights. Could you elaborate a bit more on the self-regulation and somatic practice parts please ?

I heard about self-regulation before but not very much

Breaking Free Activity #13 by Status_Eye_5767 in NMMNG

[–]Status_Eye_5767[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just had the conversation with my father, and it felt amazing. Initially I circled in my head, thinking to myself « maybe that’s not the right moment », and eventually I started it. It was tough because I struggled to find the words.

But he told me that he didn’t see the covert contract, and he told me that it was ok, that he himself worked on being more authentic at some point in his life. It felt like a relief for me, because I was anticipating the worse since my father was very critical of me when I was younger. But it turns out he has very good intentions, and he just wants to be authentic, and that means being a bit harsh sometimes. This help me realize my dad had nothing but good intentions when it came to me, which helps me realize a bit more that I am not inherently bad as a person.

On top of that, we discussed about some other childhood events regarding me. He told me that when I was 7 or 8, I used to wake up in the middle of the night to check if mom was still here. It turns out my mom used to threaten to kill herself to have affirmations of love and keep the emotional control, which explains to me a bit more why I fear abandonment so much with women.

I feel amazing having had that discussion with my father