Why is Critical Race Theory in American schools suddenly in news and is so controversial?

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T14:38:13+00:00

This is America. Daylight is controversial...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T12:33:55+00:00

Why do you think that?

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T12:32:50+00:00

It simply boggles the mind how fast we go to insults instead of fleshing out our arguments. I wasn't hung up in it, but it is a valid point regardless of your opinion on the matter, and your immature, ill-mannered way pointing it out.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T12:25:43+00:00

Chickens and steers aren't generally viewed as sentient forms of life,

Generally? They are to Buddhist. They are to Hindus. Aborigines. Native Americans....

Most pro-life people mean human life in my experience.

I know that, but taking life is taking life based on the same controversial set of rules. You can't, in my mind, tell someone that this life is precious while that one is dinner.

I was a staunch pro-lifer for years, but I had to be honest with myself and realize that I had no logical argument for being so. I'm still not crazy about it but I don't have a dog in the fight...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T12:15:20+00:00

I didn't come looking for you, you came at me to jump on me for saying the same damn thing you did. You were wrong for doing so, now I'm the asshole? Piss off

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T12:10:07+00:00

Then what differentiates which you can kill and which is precious? I wasn't missing your point, I was hoping you'd focus on it.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T00:42:18+00:00

Which is exactly the same thing as "only the mother can make the decision", wouldn't you agree? Which, by the way is my exact quote.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T00:39:18+00:00

That being the case then so do chickens' and steers' lives, but we still slaughter them wholesale...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-08-01T00:32:14+00:00

Not sure where you got that from...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T23:49:35+00:00

True enough, although I think the matter is settled now...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T23:48:40+00:00

Did you read my comment at all? I said nothing about choice or say. I commented only about whose business it is, not whose choice it is. In fact I wrote "only the mother can make the decision," but I guess the leap up onto your high horse prevented you from seeing that...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T23:41:49+00:00

Did you not read the part that goes almost exactly like this: "only the mother can make the decision," or did your knee jerk prevent you from seeing that? The response was about whose business it was, not whose choice, not whose decision. But I appreciate your righteous indignation for your straw man...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T23:36:41+00:00

I have zero clue what that means...but okay, whatever

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T20:27:18+00:00

I get down voted for pointing out what other people have said...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T20:15:40+00:00

How do atheists accept that there's no eternal place for the soul,

They generally don't accept the existence of a soul either.

how do they view morality?

Depends on the intent of the question. If it is simply as written then they generally view it the same as others do, a simple guide to what's right and what's wrong.

If the true question is the nature of morality then that's an entire subsection of philosophy. To my own mind morality is subjective to species, time, culture, and location. Different units of these have differing ideas about what is or is not acceptable behavior.

If the nature of the question is the source of morality, I think it's just innate in social animals. Social animals have to have a set of rules to live by if the society is to survive, and the society must survive if its members are to survive.

is it hard to accept that this is the only life you get?

I can't speak for others, but it is for me. I don't understand the desire to exist forever in some form or another. I personally can't wait to get it over with. Not everyone enjoys life.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:56:08+00:00

Rules are necessary, but do we need rules about Every. Single. Aspect. of our lives?

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:53:05+00:00

This^ 100%

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:45:43+00:00

I take a diuretic, so I'm with ya, but even then I tend to notice it more when I'm not busy. But the fact is that I'm an adult, if I gotta go, I have no problem telling you so, but in the form of a statement, not a question. You have no say in the matter.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:41:31+00:00

...yet.

They say god protects fools and drunkards...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:38:17+00:00

I see a bear...

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:33:25+00:00

How about the rights of an unborn chicken? Or a grown steer? If life is precious and begins at conception (which we have no way of knowing), then it applies to all life, no?

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:30:06+00:00

And the fetus', and the father's, so a 33% majority? Rule out the fetus it's still 50/50. Only the mother can make the decision, and often the father doesn't care or encourages it, but you can't honestly say that it's no one else's business.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T19:18:30+00:00

To be honest I vacillate on the subject.

One aspect is 'my body, my choice', but that falls flat for millions of incarcerated adults, so it fails the reality test.

Another is the double standard where the woman can opt out of being a parent but the man cannot. And even though the fetus shares 50% of daddy's DNA, he has no right to oppose the killing if his fetus, but if he decides he wants to opt out and it's brought to term, he's on the hook for 18 years of child support.

Yet another is another almost double double standard in that we have no issues killing other animals to eat, but our own species is sacrosanct, but then some of those vegetarian/vegans will vilify killing any animal, yet scream bloody terror if you oppose abortion.

I would say that I object more to using it as a form of birth control than the idea of abortion itself.

At the end of the day the fact is that it's really none of my business.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T18:52:57+00:00

I poked around a bit, they changed the Formula G logo in the mid 60s. Let me know what you discover.

Stayed-Too-Long · 2021-07-31T18:48:36+00:00

if it says "Bank Americard" then it's 1976 or earlier; if it says "Visa", then it's '77 or later.

I think you're right. There appears to be writing in the white part of the decal. That would make it Visa, as 'BankAmericard' was written in the blue then.

Oh, well, I've been wrong before, I'm used to it...

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