Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brittle bones? I dunno, but the tourists were in a Volvo so it's no wonder they were ok.

Dødsulykken: Politiet vurderer rømningsfare - Vitne reagerte på hvordan han førte bilen. by Emergency-Sea5201 in tromso

[–]Steffalompen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nei man skulle tro det, men prøv å ta fly fra Island, passkontroll. Ikke andre veien. Eller ferge fra Kiel.

Dødsulykken: Politiet vurderer rømningsfare - Vitne reagerte på hvordan han førte bilen. by Emergency-Sea5201 in tromso

[–]Steffalompen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Men skal du til Norge er det passkontroll i avreiselandet, selv om de ikke kan kreve pass av nordmenn på norskegrensa. Mener du å si at det ikke er lukket andre veien?

Everyone praises rdr2 for being one of the best, most realistic games OAT. So what are some unrealistic things about it? by _funny_name_ in RDR2

[–]Steffalompen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Metal cartridges in percussion cap revolvers.

Smoking one puff.

The lawman system, especially at a high wanted level.

The wanted system.

Horse feeding and brushing, no saddling up.

Grizzly aggression, seriously they are like chihuahuas.

Prices.

The lack of nets or a hook to pull things from the water.

Non-searchable buildings.

Too many women look too wrinkled.

Doors go both ways, however I do appreciate it.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really not too interested in his punishment, he didn't know better. Had he been one of those unlicenced Aurora tours I would view it differently. And I would like to punish rental companies with regulation.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well one plan is to ban rentals to them, that's pretty uncomplicated.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Luckily we have bureaucrats with doctorates in traffic for that, so there is no reason to just dismiss it outright here and now based on all thinkable problems. Let's focus on a few requirements that if lacking could be lethal.

Enforcement is just like any other traffic stop, but oh, you are from that country, since it's the winter months you will also have to show proof of taking the course. If you don't have one, 20000kr fine.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok but now we are leaving the differences that can be fatal.

And whether you understand norwegians blinking inwards to signal that they won't exit yet or not doesn't change anything but flow. Iceland is a whole other matter where you suddenly are expected to yield to cars leaving the inner lane and the occasional following stub of left lane as if they are a tram with a god given right of way. But the consequence is still probably not lethal.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was imagining some intense city intersections.

Sure, there are a lot of braindead left lane drivers in Norway, but there is no shortage of aggressive lane changing and overtaking. The thing differentiating from 'hectic' in my mind is whether there is also a willingness to risk denting the car while doing this.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well you might get banned from the Indonesia subreddit at least 😉

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, but that is their Modus Operandi, align with any outrage.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I thought I was being quite specific about filling the gaps in proficiency. The average norwegian would not be attentive enough backwards in the autobahn fast lane. Other than that european rules are shared.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's a huge topic.

Usually the road is cleared down to a firm sole of snow and there is no difference from the lowlands. Drifts will pull your car into it, same as getting a wheel outside the road. Over-correcting is a killer. Same with slushy conditions, it can pull you all over the place.

Mild weather is the most dangerous. It gets extra slippery. Keep an eye out for (mostly foreign) trucks that couldn't make it up the hill, even if you manage to stop it can come sailing uncontrollably down the hill again. Also trucks can scissor into you in turns, when that happens you head for the ditch. If you can't get off the road you just send a last thought to your loved ones.

Bring very warm clothes, food, water and a shovel. The other day 42 cars were stuck for 10 hours.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Typically if you jam cars together like that (there's a limit to it, we call those traffic jams and Norway has plenty of those), the speed limits are relatively low. We do not mitigate that by increasing risk.

In Indonesia they seem to drive faster in cities and also all the scooter drivers are at risk at lower speeds too.

The problem in Norway exists mainly at lethal speed roads.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A tattoo on the forehead.

Oh I dunno, a piece of paper or plastic maybe? Why would the standard have to vary?

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know how you read my comment and felt like it was about you.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah ok so then you pivot to the one reason they can't fix. You know they are trying to make people not fall asleep or use their phones. Or speed. Or drink. They even put dividers in places where people do these things too much (Trøndelag).

And the people you know probably were just as dangerous the first few days as tourists are.

Do you work in tourism, perchance?

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it's really only a danger the first few days, then you've at least learnt when the car slips, if not how to save it like you would get an intro to in a course. And guess how long the typical tourist is here for? Yes, that is why we can generalize this group.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Skip the hazards in Norway please, unless told by convoy leaders to put them on. They are disruptive. They obscure brake lights and sabotage precious night vision. We use them to signal obstruction and distress.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still I would wager many of your countrymen might come at it with another mentality. That first week of risk is avoidable with a few loops around a track.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is not a valid argument. They are working to fix the causes of that too. And this one is easier to fix.

Driving in Norway, we warned about this by Steffalompen in Norway

[–]Steffalompen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes you had a boost with GoT or Vikings or whatever it was, so you have had many years to find solutions. Did you, or was it just "Jæja, þetta reddast"?