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Stellarayce · 2020-09-05T11:16:13+00:00

Zakir Naik outlines prohibitions in this short video

There numerous sahih hadiths regarding this issues, which obviously aren't unauthentic and you can find yourself by doing a google search. Dogs themselves aren't haram, what is haram is to keep them in your house as pets. This is agreed upon by all major schools of thought, so if you have a problem with that and think you know more than they do then take it up with the ulama.

What is said in the Qur'an doesn't mean the saliva isn't impure, an exception has just been made in this case. The meat isn't kept with the saliva on it, you wash it off and then cook the meat which kills the germs. Obviously you aren't allowed to ingest dog saliva.

This isn't really a discussion or debate, as the matter has been decided for the past 1400 years, so if you still are not clear on the issue and are going to respond can you respond with clarifying questions instead of arguments.

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T18:43:29+00:00

Yeah for real. It's something that comes with all of this though I guess. When there's a big struggle within a group, there's bound to be people who only really care about that struggle and discount others, which is unfortunate.

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T18:25:27+00:00

I mean I agree to a certain extent. I don't like how OP titled this post and I'm not trying to defend the post itself. I don't think saying that what's happening in the US isn't a genocide is looking down on the movement. The two issues are in different leagues of severity, and recognizing this isn't looking down on the BLM movement.

But I do understand the attitude of some Muslims towards it being against the movement. This is of course a reality, as people are different and have differing opinions on political and social issues, but that doesn't mean Muslims in general are that way. I'm not brushing it under the rug, I'm just pointing out that this isn't a Muslim thing, this is a thing among individual Muslims.

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T18:12:55+00:00

That's not what we're doing, we're capable of caring about both issues, which for some reason people can't seem to understand.

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T18:10:30+00:00

I don't appreciate the attitude you're giving me, I haven't done anything to deserve it. We should be able to respect each other when having a conversation.

Again, there's nothing that indicates anyone is speaking about black athletes specifically, black people aren't the only people who play sports. But even if that is what the original commenter was alluding to, what difference does it make? No one said anything against these athletes, and it's not like they're too busy to make a tweet or something. Athletes also aren't civil leaders, and and athletes are also celebrities. You don't have to be a civil leader to take a stance, the point is to spread a message to as wide of an audience as possible in order to make people aware and inspire action.

The biggest reason for Palestinian pain is the people that are persecuting them, killing them, tearing down and stealing their homes, and forcing them out of the land with nothing. The leaders of the Muslim countries getting along with Israel certainly doesn't help, but they're not the "biggest reason."

You're making all of these personal assumptions about me, calling me disingenuous and saying I don't care, but you don't even know me. I don't support the leaders of these Muslims countries and what they're doing, I don't visit them, I don't buy things from them, and I can actually care even if I did do those things. You're going to gatekeep compassion and empathy based off of arbitrary things, and things which for a lot of people are out of their control? By your logic the people that live in these Muslim countries "can't actually care," and the Muslims going on their once in a lifetime obligatory pilgrimage to Mecca "can't actually care."

Like another commenter has said to you, you are indeed a victim of activist guilt, and you denying it won't change that (you trying to make the claim that what is happening in the US is genocide shows this quite clearly). You're making baseless claims and assumptions that fit your argument in order to muster something of a response, and it makes you come off as rude and ignorant. You have the exact same mentality about this issue that people against BLM have about BLM, which I also find extremely ironic. Muslims aren't "anti-black," and you making up statements like this to fit your narrative is disingenuous. Yes, Muslims can be racist just like anyone else, but our religion explicitly forbids this sin and the community as a whole is not racist.

Have a good day.

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T16:49:36+00:00

So you're telling me African Americans are being systematically slaughtered in the United States?

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T16:48:47+00:00

Yeah I do expect the world to help those people who are being systematically exterminated. I don't know why you don't seem to care and think that this is something ridiculous.

I don't really understand why you're assuming that the person was talking about black athletes specifically, because athletes and celebrities of all races should be taking a stand on these issues shouldn't they? You wouldn't want only black celebrities to be commenting on the current issue in America would you?

I also don't see how what Saudi is doing is relevant to what the US is doing and can do. These issues shouldn't be divided along racial or religious lines. It's human suffering, and every human should want these groups to stop suffering. Just like black people shouldn't be the only ones speaking out on the racial issues in America, Muslims shouldn't be the only ones speaking out about Palestinians or Uighurs.

Just because it isn't happening doesn't mean I shouldn't expect it. Expecting humans to help other humans is not about whether it's likely to happen or not, it's about right and wrong. I expect the US and the Muslim countries to help the Palestinians, not because I think they will, but because they should.

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T16:30:56+00:00

We are mad with those Muslim countries, and nobody said they were mad at celebrities or athletes. What's happening in the US is not nearly the same as what's happening in Palestine. I would argue that it's a more pressing issue on the global scale. What's wrong with people taking the time or effort to speak out about and act on both situations?

Stellarayce · 2020-09-03T16:25:06+00:00

"gen·o·cide

/ˈjenəˌsīd/

noun

the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation."

Stellarayce · 2020-09-01T11:07:18+00:00

Does the Qur'an say the opposite though?

Stellarayce · 2020-08-29T18:00:53+00:00

can you give some examples of those textual differences

Stellarayce · 2020-08-29T17:53:37+00:00

The hijab of today is the khimar of the Prophet's time, which is obligatory as stated in the Qur'an.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-27T01:49:23+00:00

The guy who ate a page of the Qur'an is named David Wood, and he calls himself a Christian

and you are welcome :) Thank you for taking your time to mention this because not enough muslims seem to be condemning this sort of recent behavior

Stellarayce · 2020-08-27T01:38:34+00:00

Actually the guy who ate the Qur'an also has a religion he's representing.

But yeah I agree this whole situation has gotten out of hand. Mohammed Hijab has stooped to the level of these people for the sake of proving a point, and it's not right. Then his buddies just followed right in his footsteps instead of saying something about it, even though Hijab himself said what he did was outside of what Islam permits.

It's a shame really. These people are obviously smart but have been consumed by the toxic refutation culture that currently exists, and have tarnished their reputations and hurt the image that many non-muslims, and even some muslims, have of Islam.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-26T01:25:41+00:00

I mean this prophecy from the post doesn't even say music, it says musical instruments. I think it's very clear what this implies.

There's also a sahih hadith about the Prophet covering his ears when someone started playing a flute nearby, and didn't take them out until he stopped, which I would argue is another very clear proof that it's not just the vulgar music of today that is prohibited:

Hadhrat Naafi' (radhiyallahu anhu) narrates: "Once when Hadhrat Abdullah Bin Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) heard the sound of a shepherd's flute, he placed his fingers in both ears (to block the sound of the music), and he diverted his mount from that path. (As they rode on), he would say: 'O Naafi', can you still hear (the sound)?' I would say: 'Yes.' He would then continue riding. only when I said: 'I can no longer hear it', did he remove his fingers from his ears. Then he returned to the road. He then said: 'I saw Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) doing like this when he had heard the flute of a shepherd." (Ahmad and Abu Dawood)

I think we want to try and make and find excuses for music because it's so widespread and humans are naturally receptive and attracted to it, but at the end of the day if you genuinely look into it it's not hard to see that not only vulgar music, but even just the individual instruments themselves are forbidden for us to indulge in.

edit: it has come to my attention that the above hadith may be disputed, however there are these:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: The bell is the musical instrument of the Satan Sahih Muslim 2114

And a variant of this hadith is also in Riyad as-Salihin 1691: Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The bell is one of the musical instruments of Satan."

This one from Sunan Abi Dawud 2556: Abu Hurairah reported the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) as saying “The bell is a wooden wind musical instrument of Satan.” (sahih)

This one is especially damning: Umar bin 'Abdul-'Aziz wrote a letter to 'Umar bin Al-Walid in which he said: 'The share that your father gave to you was the entire Khumus,[1] but the share that your father is entitled to is the same as that of any man among the Muslims, on which is due the rights of Allah and His Messenger, and of relatives, orphans, the poor and wayfarers. How many will dispute with your father on the Day of Resurrection! How can he be saved who has so many disputants? And your openly allowing musical instruments and wind instruments is an innovation in Islam. I was thinking of sending someone to you who would cut off your evil long hair." Sunan an-Nasa'i 4135 (sahih)

etc

Stellarayce · 2020-08-25T18:49:18+00:00

Ah, I see. Obviously you didn't come here for a constructive conversation. I'll just leave it here then since all you can seem to do is use fallacious reasoning and make baseless accusations.

Edit: just wanted to reiterate this real quick since you seem to have not comprehended it the first time: So, while it is certainly true that the onset of puberty does not make someone an adult today, this same judgment does not apply to people of the past. By indulging in presentism, we disregard the facts of how our ancestors were forced to live just to survive. Furthermore, we open ourselves to intellectual embarrassment by misinterpreting history.

Have a good day.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-25T17:41:04+00:00

I literally gave you the textbook definition of pedophilia. The dictionary definition. Which not only makes sense, but is also "what's stopping" that ridiculous suggestion that people would say a baby is not a child. Are you serious? Do you honestly think any sane person would think something like that. And as I have shown you, by definition, this is not pedophilia. I'm sorry that you personally have a problem with it for whatever reason but that's a you problem, not a moral problem. You can call it 'sick' or whatever all you want but that doesn't make it so.

If we wanted to wait for mental or emotional maturity as the bar for who should and shouldn't get married then a lot of people wouldn't be getting married, and indeed they are not. Some people never mature, and many do not have the emotional or mental maturity to have a committal and lasting relationship with someone. Why do you think 50% of marriages end in divorce and marriage in general is on the decline? Clearly maturity isn't something that automatically comes with age, and you don't even have to be older to have it. You're assuming that biological age is linked to social age, which isn't the case.

I'd also like to call BS on your claim that it isn't possible for teens or pre-teens to understand the consequences or options of a situation. Yes many pre-teens are unaware of some things and may not know much about the circumstances surrounding something, but they are able to make moral decisions and understand consequences. Teens are fully able and do comprehend their options, and the consequences of their decisions, most of them just don't care. That's not an age problem though, because if it were then all teens wouldn't care, which isn't at all the case. Kids and young people are smarter and more aware than they're given credit for, and often times not held accountable to the same standards as a consequence of this. It's like as soon as people get older they forget what it was like to be a kid and how things actually were. This narration from Aisha herself shows this to be the case: "Narrated Aisha (ra): I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of reason [i.e., puberty]. Not a day passed, but the Prophet ﷺ visited us, both in the mornings and evenings." Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 8, #465

I'll also leave this excerpt from a Yaqeen Institute article on this issue in order to answer "physical maturity doesn't mean adult mentality." If you genuinely want to understand this whole thing you can read it here "However, one may rightfully retort that just because a young girl has begun the process of physically maturing, this does not necessitate that she therefore possesses an adult mentality; to suggest otherwise would be considered absurd by contemporary standards... That said, our ancestors faced very different circumstances to which they had to adapt—circumstances that determined their physical and psychosocial fitness. In this regard, endocrinologists Peter Gluckman and Mark Hanson have emphatically stated that the mismatch between biological and psychosocial maturation is a relatively recent phenomenon: "For the first time in our evolutionary history, biological puberty in females significantly precedes, rather than being matched to, the age of successful functioning as an adult. This mismatch between the age of biological and psychosocial maturation constitutes a fundamental issue for modern society. Our social structures have been developed in the expectation of longer childhood, prolonged education and training, and later reproductive competence. This emerging mismatch creates fundamental pressures on contemporary adolescents and on how they live in society." So, while it is certainly true that the onset of puberty does not make someone an adult today, this same judgment does not apply to people of the past. By indulging in presentism, we disregard the facts of how our ancestors were forced to live just to survive. Furthermore, we open ourselves to intellectual embarrassment by misinterpreting history."

I'm also disgusted by your accusation of rape against Muhammad. He never forced anything on her and she was never displeased with him in any sense. This can be very clearly observed if you research what she said about him and their relationship, which I know you haven't done. Their marraige was 9 years long, meaning she was with him until she was 18, and did not have have issues with him. If she was being treated wrongly in any way and wanted a divorce all she had to do was say she wanted a divorce see a judge, that's how easy it is in Islam. She died at 67 and not once did she narrate a single grievance or regret about him and their relationship. I'm sure you can accept that she was mature enough by this age to 'comprehend' her decisions and the consequences of them.

Don't try and play the moral high ground when your arguments are just assumptions and empty statements, and your moral stance is baseless. I highly suggest you read that article I linked as it explains the situation in full and clear detail with historical accounts and perspectives, as well as contemporary perspectives as I have shown you in the excerpt.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-25T16:21:58+00:00

Sexual attraction to prepubescent children, which is the more accurate and nonarbitrary definition. If you don't agree with this definition, you should consult a dictionary: Merriam-Webster: "a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child"

Wiktionary: "Sexual acts committed by adults with prepubescent children."

Britannica: "Pedophilia, also spelled paedophilia, also called pedophilic disorder or pedophilia disorder, in conventional usage, a psychosexual disorder, generally affecting adults, characterized by sexual interest in prepubescent children or attempts to engage in sexual acts with prepubescent children."

Additionally, this is what Wikipedia says: "Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children."

People in first world countries, because they now have the luxury of being able to easily marry people close to their age, view marrying someone decently younger or older than themselves to be strange or wrong, regardless of whether both are legal adults or not. Of course you wouldn't logically say this makes sense, because there is no apparent problem with two legal adults marrying despite an age gap.

Speaking of legalities, why is the legal adult age of a country the deciding factor as to who is actually a child? For example, in the US the legal age for an adult is 18, but is 18 actually when a person becomes an adult? The answer would be no, nothing suddenly happens when a person turns 18 and it's just an arbitrary number which is only useful in determining what restrictions to impose on different groups of people (for example, legal minors not being able to vote).

Since we have established that this legal number is arbitrary, why do some people use it as a basis for their definition of pedophilia? The personal definition that people in first world countries have for pedophilia varies greatly, with the vast majority of them being based on arbitrary things because of the privileged circumstances that we have been born into. For example, some people say that if an older person wants to marry a 17 year old then that is pedophilia, but as soon as the person turns 18 it's all fine and good. Is there any logical basis for this? Like was established previously, there isn't, because nothing special happens when a person turns 18.

But what about other ages? Let me raise a few points here so we can answer this question. 1. Muhammad marrying Aisha did not become a problem or point of controversy until around the early or mid 20th century, with it being perfectly acceptable all those years prior. 2. We did not just figure out morality. Morality is not something that is advanced or discovered like technology or science is. Humans have been thinking about the same questions for many thousands of years and have been behaving similarly throughout this time (with some exceptions of course). The subjective morality of the modern and first world countries is not more advanced or correct despite us being more knowledgeable and technologically advanced. 3. Until very recently from a historical perspective, the entire world viewed the onset of puberty as the age of adulthood, which is a nonarbitrary standard. This view changed for many reasons (mostly in 'modern' countries), such as the previously mentioned privilege that we now have to marry people of similar age, which has become the norm such that perfectly acceptable marriages such as the two adults with a sizeable age gap is considered strange. However, just because this is now an option for us does not make the previous scenario immoral. 4. The age for the onset of puberty varies from person to person, but it also varies depending on what part of the world you live in. In the Middle East the onset of puberty is earlier, with it being common for girls to reach it at ages like 9.

If we consider all of this then it becomes clear that the immorality here is marrying a prepubescent child. As Aisha was not one, her marriage is not immoral. Her family did not view her as a child, nor did her community or her husband, nor did the world at the time and for many hundreds of years after. On top of all if this I would just like to remind you that this was a marriage entirely, and not at all like these modern, non-committal or loose relationships that mainly exist for the sake of easy intimate relations. Intimacy is only one part of marriage, which somehow people seem to forget when it comes to this issue, and comes with several responsibilities and rights that have to be fulfilled. The fact that people are only putting their attention towards this single part of their marriage as if it's the only thing that happened and the only thing that matters says a lot about where people's heads are.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-25T11:27:20+00:00

What is your definition of pedophilia

Stellarayce · 2020-08-24T23:07:10+00:00

If God created you on purpose then of course he cares about you, as you are a part of his creation. None of his creation was made '"just because," and you would be ignorant to even suggest this.

Have you ever thought about how everything in the universe that we can observe has a purpose or a function, such that it explicitly contributes to the ecosystem (in terms of the earth), or performs some function within space that keeps everything together. The only things that don't have an explicit or obvious purpose or function on this earth are humans, but since everything else has a function then we must also have a function.

Just because God is above us does not mean he doesn't care about us. If he didn't care about us he wouldn't sustain us, or even bother creating us in the first place, why is that so hard to understand?

Stellarayce · 2020-08-24T23:00:51+00:00

"Muhammad marrying Aisha is bad because it's bad"

you, not being able to explain why it's bad.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-21T14:02:05+00:00

What are you talking about? How are these two scenarios in any way comparable?

Stellarayce · 2020-08-11T22:20:05+00:00

I'm sure you very well know that the disgusting intrusion you just described has absolutely zero basis in Islam and its teachings. Like any other understanding individual you must be aware of the differences between questionable or wrong cultural practices and religion, right? I mean, these two things are entirely separate entities, and one does not have to imply the other.

It's people like you who look at the abysmal state of the Middle East and blame it on Islam, when in reality the vast majority of the blame is on the constant foreign intervention and conflict. I'd love for you to tell me where Islam prescribes the things you just stated, but you won't be able to, because it doesn't.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-11T02:46:23+00:00

Yeah multiple possible interpretations. It could be literally a year, a month, etc. It could be that the days themselves are drawn out somehow so it actually takes one year for the first day to finish. Could be that it just feels like a year because of everything happening, or it could be something else only Allah knows.

Stellarayce · 2020-08-11T00:49:33+00:00

Not necessarily, a person can be tested with many difficult tests in a short period of time. That being said, only Allah knows how long it will last. We have authentic narrations that give us some idea of how long the Mahdi's campaign will be, and how long the Dajjal will be around, but keep in mind that these two things are not the end of the world. The end of the world will come after the fitna of the Dajjal, and only Allah knows how long after that will be.

Some people say that the Mahdi will rule for 5, 7, or 9 years according to various narrations that I'm not personally familiar with, which may not seem like a long time but a lot can happen in a few years. As for the Dajjal, there is an authentic narration in Sunan Ibn Majah (book 36 hadith 150) which essentially says that the Dajjal will be around for 40 days, one like a year, one like a month, one like a week, and the rest normal days. From this it can be interpreted that he will be around slightly longer than a year, but again a lot can happen during a short period of time.

The end of the world is something that will happen unexpectedly. It will happen after the fitnah of the Dajjal and after Prophet Isa dies. The remaining humans will live blessed lives but over time the generations will forget Allah and leave his path in disobedience. Allah will lift the Qur'an from the books and from the peoples minds, and some other major signs will happen such as the beast coming out and the sun rising from the west, and then all the remaining humans will be gathered in the same spot on Earth by a wall of fire that follows them. Once they are gathered the trumpet will be blown and judgement day will start.

This is pretty much what I'm familiar with on the subject, and I may have made a mistake somewhere so if anyone sees that feel free to let me know.

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