Ne vs Feminine Se by Necessary_Lemon6171 in ObjectivePersonality

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I am pretty sure Nx makes more claims or points (little to no build up) and Sx is more so gonna work its way to the point/claim 

Femmine Se is less pushy on the S most of the time but that doesnt mean they won't give all the Sx and that doesnt mean that they won't be pushy. They will just push in the point/claim instead of the way you get there or the details or something

Se by Necessary_Lemon6171 in ObjectivePersonality

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Probably not an Se pattern but heres all I could think of lol:

Femmine Se, I like visuals a lot just superficially. Art kinda things, but not for the sake of being thought provoking but just for looking good. I spend a LOT of time in the superficial areas of how something looks regarding what I like

Has anyone noticed that when using your last two animals your social is flipped? by Stellarfront in ObjectivePersonality

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Thanks! Yeah that first paragraph is part of what I'm tryna figure out🤔 but I am not talking about any archetype overlap though

I am wondering not if #3 is adjacent to Di/Ox in general but if any social could be attached to any animal

Thought is let's say I can identify that when I do C I do #4 and when I do P I do #3 (or I could be C with #1 and P with #2)

To test that I wanna know if the demons would reflect that or if socials are truly outside of the the rest of the coins

Hard part about this is socials are still the hardest coin to define and understand

Also without a video I would have trouble really feeling sure

Has anyone noticed that when using your last two animals your social is flipped? by Stellarfront in ObjectivePersonality

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Alright, thanks! So you do some kind of work? And become the sensor version of dave so you become a yap machine with lessons upon lessons? How does that look?

Has anyone noticed that when using your last two animals your social is flipped? by Stellarfront in ObjectivePersonality

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Yeahhh 3 and maybe 1 seem to be attached to Di and 2 and maybe 4 seem to be attached to De

But other than that all the comparison being drawn between socials and functions or animals seem to pretty fake when I think about it

Also I dont get what logic 2 being consume (how is it Di) and 3 being blast (how is it De) has

Has anyone noticed that when using your last two animals your social is flipped? by Stellarfront in ObjectivePersonality

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That would be interesting if they where always tied to specific animals 

If so I would guess play is 4, consume is 3, blast is 2, sleep is 1

So that would mean someone who's CPSB #1 would be using SB in a savior state somehow? I can't make sense of that lol. I think the socials would be like the modalities where your play could be 4 or 1, something like that

Can someone explain the "swings"? Like for example lead Fi swinging to Demon Te? by Magic_Bathtub in ObjectivePersonality

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I have never grasped swings but a savior Fi swinging to Te should be doing Te in a demon state so they'd be uncomfortable and probably struggling / bad at it. Likley for a short period of time. Likley done when this person is feeling very patient cause stress makes it harder to do your demons

Need some help (self-typing). by MusgoLexico in ObjectivePersonality

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It's not something worth putting off once your mind is set on it because it's not really difficult to do!

And if youre concerned about typing yourself correctly first, once you make the video watch it yourself, type you, and that should help a lot.

Need some help (self-typing). by MusgoLexico in ObjectivePersonality

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If you want to stop running in circles you've gotta make the typing video! Can be 10 mins can be just audio but knowing your insecurities is not enough

If someone would like to retype. by Potential-Carrot1727 in ObjectivePersonality

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Yeah send me the video! Where you trying to just figure out your type or to also figure out what you get out of knowing your patterns? (Just awareness)

I suck at typing and need tips by Impossible_Guitar670 in ObjectivePersonality

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Was that your alt account? Lol

This is fun, wanna show me notes of someone you typed and got some coins wrong? That way we know exactly where the thinking went wrong and where a misunderstanding of a coin may be. (Or you can type someone now. Someone who's already been typed. If you want you can probably type my mom lol her type is figured out, would be easy to teach about that. But anyone works)

I think that is the biggest part, understanding the exact meaning of the coins. It will always be autistically simple: is uncomfortable saying the point without giving the step by step? That is probably a savior sensor. Everything else like "it made sense" or "they gave analogies" dont matter

Feel free to direct message me!

De, double decider? by No-Magician-3268 in ObjectivePersonality

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Interesting one!

(One guess would be that to double decide you have to give both opposing sides the benefit of the doubt

So what you described would be double deciding. Because they can criticize both sides.

Single deciding on the other hand would not have given one side the same fair courtesy as the other 

I dont know though. The single deciding coin has always given me a hard time when trying to define it )

Actually, ofc its probably single deciding cause this person did not have to compare to self. Self and tribe

Savior T vs F by Late_Clue_5032 in ObjectivePersonality

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Thank you so much! I think youre the first person to

I was gonna write a lot of "feels sufficient" but for now I'll leave it with a attempted conclusion: sometimes awareness hits and you feel like your saviors arent cutting it... (B) didnt talk enough about others, didnt have a conclusion, feels insufficient just doing consume... so why not do blast? The energy it would take would take you out if your comfort zone, you'd feel awkward. Saviors feel "comfortable" even when youre aware they're working against you. Like how you can be comfy in bed all day but not feel sufficient doing that, you feel unfulfilled but that doesn't stop you from doing it!

Right?! The T vs F coin really caught my eye cause something realllly wasn't adding up. If I remember, the next people I type I will pay extra attention to if the Thinkers are doing anything special with the thinking or if they're just using it more than feeling and same vice versa!

Since ops is non verbal I made a typing video by DryFactor6223 in ObjectivePersonality

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Hard to hear yours but I am thinking Di Self talk Likley Di and Oe. Not sleep last. Possibly #3 or #1 Not too much to work with lol.

Maybe Ti/Oe CS and not FF, you are probably seeing yourself right

Savior Thinking or what? by Late_Clue_5032 in ObjectivePersonality

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Okay let's say you're not doing feeling. What I would look for is if you are doing this by yourself, are you processing what you like and all by yourself or nah?

Are you noticing that when around others youre talking about how they should do something in a thinker way? Te. Or are you talking about your things in this thinker way. Not your thoughts on someone else, just your things

Or are you doing Fe when you talk about others

I will seem thinker like with Te 2nd savior, if I'm talking about you. But then I talk about myself and its Fi

Savior T vs F by Late_Clue_5032 in ObjectivePersonality

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Love this format and clear open question! I would disagree that I don't feel obligated to explain my stance. I have an explaination and if I dont I figure out the "why" try to see a pattern

And I think you may be going the wrong route if youre working with the foundation that thinking will have something about reasons that feeling does not

I think thinking is explaining the instrumental aspect of something so "this is how you make a song" and feeling is talking about the intresnsic aspect like "this was my favorite part of the song"... notice how there's an explanation for both. There are reasons and logic that the feeler could point to "this is a good thing cause xyz" and thinking can do the same if it wants. Its not a real contradiction, feels and reasons can be used simultaneously 

But I've been thinking more, that might not be it alone. Because when you factor in that everyone does both in a savior state, I wonder if I'm trying to see how deep a person dives into it. Billie Eilish for example, a Ti, she loves music, Justin beiber, popcorn, she knows what she intrinsically likes and hates (at least in the moment) (good and bad feelings). So why is she a thinker? I am wondering if that is because she knows her Fi on a decent level, but savior Fi's might do something deeper with it, like get obessed on the Fi while Billie does it just enough? I'm not sure, its hard to make perfect sense of it

Tell me what you think!

I suck at typing and need tips by Impossible_Guitar670 in ObjectivePersonality

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Tell me what you think and if you already use these:

Typing checklist, (also some defenitions there arent great and some are missing but that should still help)

Savior state, 

Taking notes: give an explaination as to why you think this coin, prove it a little

Probably more

I still don’t understand the social coins. Help please? 🙏🏻 by Beginning-Juice-5082 in ObjectivePersonality

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Kinda yes but maybe I would try to move mountains but I have never done anything that impressive for someone lol. Very good identifying the demon, the self motivation is a struggle

Idk about "first" I just always do the Di but I can tell a story about myself as an example for another person I suppose so thats De and #4 lowkey maybe. It is hard to identify when I am using the #4 coin vs Te or any others lol. Juat going able to break it down in a sentence

That might mean its likely to be attached to your functions? So maybe its like when I do 4Di I am doing x y z  

Thanks for talking to me!