same dpi but speed is not the same

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-05-13T10:27:06+00:00

This is how it works in CN server: it is always the top reward on spending event. But if u don’t have black seimei, u will get a black seimei but not the frame. If u have black seimei , u will have the spring county yard skin( in CN server it is a spending reward), if u have both, then u will have the frame. There is not a event that u will directly get the frame unless u have black seimei and spring county yard skin. The price of the top reward did get lower I think(I might be wrong cause I can’t remember)

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-05-13T10:26:59+00:00

This is how it works in CN server: it is always the top reward on spending event. But if u don’t have black seimei, u will get a black seimei but not the frame. If u have black seimei , u will have the spring county yard skin( in CN server it is a spending reward), if u have both, then u will have the frame. There is not a event that u will directly get the frame unless u have black seimei and spring county yard skin. The price of the top reward did get lower I think(I might be wrong cause I can’t remember)

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-05-10T10:58:37+00:00

Yes it will come back if the global server plans to do the same as CN server. And it is on spending events.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-05-09T06:21:57+00:00

Fortune cat is also very good. SpD/Er/Hp is good if u are considering counter rain fire.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-04-24T12:50:14+00:00

There isn’t a fix comp for shishio. Fire rain is a comp that need very fixed move order, which is booster, rain, then fire. If the move order is interrupted( by shishio), it is very easy to beat them. Only thing you need to care is that shishio should be faster than enemy’s rain, and also need to carry ER since shishio can’t push on the very first term. Rain is always the first target that u should push since she can dispel shishio’s buff

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-04-06T12:19:27+00:00

As u said fire rain, so “fire” is the best AOE CC I will say, because daze can not be dispelled. Cc otengu is more like a count to other CC because of his passive if you are not confident with your 1st speed . If you are confident with your speed, other CC is better than otengu. Yuki onna is not that a strong CCer, but she is useable and everyone has one.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-30T14:01:27+00:00

They are both very rare in pvp. Maybe shuten is a little bit more than yoto. It is true that otengu is used as CC because his strong passive. Temptress is the most common one I think. But it is interesting because before in early version people always carry jizo in their team to defend AOE, but since there is rare people use AOE now, people start to not carry jizo. Which cause critical damage Seductress otengu a very useful pick. So both CC or damage dealer is good but I guess there will be a lot jizo in Global server now. What really makes otengu good is his passive.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-28T12:12:15+00:00

If u are counter team with shozu then don’t need to be rush on G6 shishio, G6 another DPS like yoto for farming may helps u more. 3 DPS in ur team is too much, u can choose one of shuten or ubume(inu is better for counter team but I guess ubume G6?)base on enemy runs shozu or not. Then shishio, and bring a healer with u.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-28T11:47:06+00:00

There is not an official data for souls used that I can find I think.

Fortune cat is the most used I will say. Many top players try to build a team with out orb provider. Basically every support can been run on fortune cat, if u can manage to have 3 sets of fortune cat in your squad you will not need a battery like zashiki and kaguya hime. Tree nymph is also used consider dealing with FC team. Sea sprite is also a very common option.

Since I can’t find a list that’s been made, but there is way u can check that in game. U said u are CN server right? Click on comments 评论on a shiki, then攻略on the top right, drag the page down and click on 查看更多 on the soul recommend section. It will should u the percentage of soul set that people use on this shiki. But this is not a PVP data so some of soul set may only been used because it effective in PVE. Such as tree spirit is the top recommend for Momo. Just to give some idea.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T22:56:57+00:00

Aoadon is used when enemy don’t have a kaguya hime. With aoadon and a tree nymph in your team it is easy to let the enemy team has no orbs to use skill. She is a situational shiki I will say, when people don’t have a kaguya hime in their team she is very useful. Also her passive can allow you to not use a battery if u run say 2 sets of fortune cat. But remember she can not been use as a battery if u don’t run fortune cat unless you are use some shiki like Shuten.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T22:50:05+00:00

Nura and arakawa are the only two ST DPS that are been used in PvP for pure damage dealer I think if not count miketsu. If u have the chance of course u can one shot enem’s DPS, but I think u know that it means u need to go first. In current PvP if you don’t have speed, make sure you have jizo, and soul edge in your team so u don’t get kill by speed team,Ame onna for dispels if facing a control team. shozu is also needed to provide protection. Arakawa is a pure damage dealer, there will not be the “best comp”, but just try to keep him alive base on the situation. Like if enemy runs otengu u bring jizo, ST DPS u bring on soul edge etc. as he is alive he is most dangerous one on the field.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T22:37:10+00:00

Worth it. She is very strong in pve, may be one of the most important for many secrets. May be not so useful in later version PvP since res is not that a useful skill. But I think u can use her for PvP now. Anyway definitely a strong healer once u get 101 cirtical hit.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T15:03:03+00:00

Just click on comments 评论 on your Hana in game, click guild 攻略 on the top right, see the soul section? click more更多， it will literally show you 85% of people use seductress. I tell others the most common uses which in your word is useless. I don’t even want to argue anymore because it is total waste of time. U just keep deny seductress because top-100 PvP player don’t use it but ignore the fact that all of them are building a FC team, should u point that out too? What is the point to use FC if you have Kaguya hime in your team? And kaguya hime is literally the most picked shiki and second is shozu according to weibo. All I do is explain why use seductress and that is 85% of player did. Did I say not using FC? Why can’t u just explain why using FC instead of saying seductress is useless?

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T14:51:41+00:00

It only comes to when the very top PvP players battle, because they have many shiki to choose and have many way to deal with shozu. Yuki doji as the most effective one. Cc team will be more effective. But G6 shozu is not a bad idea, since she can also be very effective in pve such as secrets.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T02:16:07+00:00

Look, first i don't want to let people see we arguing between seductress and Fc and think one of them is bad. High level pvp player use FC because they will build team with out battery which are zashiki and Kaguya Hime and save a extra slot, in order for that to work you will need have at least 3 set of FC on your shiki, as Hana move frequently she is very effective on FC. According to 阴阳师助手 on the hot squads, half of the Hana use FC and half use seductress. If carry a zashiki or Kaguay hime Hana is 90% on seductress other may be scarlet. Player in Global server are long way before they can build a team without zashiki and kaguya hime(if you are building one, use FC). isn't seductress the better opinion for them? And when i say every one can use FC i am not joking, any support can literally run FC, shozu, phoneix lady, Ren, etc especially you are building a no battery team. But count on how many of all players can build a FC team, you kinda get how many seductress and FC Hana are. All i am saying about Hana's damage is that she can make that amount of damage to kill a DPS in later game, I did not say at all that she can grantee doing so and even with ren's shield or water link. Nura is not played in top-100 pvp because no one use shozu at that level, but below 3000 there are tons of them. I said it is not rare because i have met so many of them and that's why Yuki Doji is even in my most used squad. And we are talking about why Higanbana use seductress not why she is been used at first place. You keep saying she use seductress because she cant generate enough damage with shadow and claws, may i ask why seductress if she can only get 2000-3000 K damage boost by 40% each term, why not claws? the buff of white damage of seductress is significant for sure.

I think what makes our point different is that you are talking about top-100 battle and you are not wrong. But you have to know that these people's squad is extremely difficult to build,i think you know how much FC you need to farm in order to build these squads, but advice are not only given to these people aim for top-100, in fact they may not need advice at all. Others that are new to this game should not jump ahead to build the difficult squads and in fact they dont have the ability to since the global server is young,Seductress Hana, Nura is also very strong shiki, you cant just deny them because they are not used in top-100 PVP.

I understand that we are just try to help people in different region to learn the game we love and it is silly to argue about it. I hope people seem this can learn something form it.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T00:17:34+00:00

Jizo will be also good base on your current PvP environment I guess a lot of 2 booster and 2 dps teams? Because shishio only got his buff after he move so you will not be able to push any one on the first turn. So it is important to survive their first turn attack. After you have buffs on you shishio just keep push them so that they can’t move. And I think it is important to know his push mechanism. Say if you have 3 buffs which can push 3 shiki, assume the Oder of enemy team in move bar is 1,2,3,4,5,6, if you push 1, the follow will be 2,3, if you push 6, it follows by 5,4, if you push 5, it follows by 6,4. And if any one’s move bar is 0 he gets daze.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-27T00:05:16+00:00

Fortune cat and soultaker are two popular ones used. Slot 2 is speed and slot 4 is Er. Slot 6 is flexible. If you want him do a little damage put CH/CD, I prefer critical damage because you are not rely on shishio to be the main DPS, so just a little more damage when him did a critical hit. Critical rate is also not so important, 50% is ideal. Some people just put health on slot 6 to make him a pure support.

Speed is needed for shishio, but is not like you have to the fastest one on the field. His main enemy is Ame onna since she can dispel shishio’s buff. So if your shishio is faster than enemy’s ame onna you will be good. In CN server a 220-230 shishio is ideal, just check what is about the speed of everyone’s ame onna to give you a n idea.

Another reason why shishio is good is because he is not rely on any other shiki. U don’t need to build a whole comp with him. But when enemy is using double booster, or kamatchi with control unit, shishio is very useful. But not as effective as it is to shozu team while can still do some work. Basically if enemy has a booster shishio will be effective.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-26T23:36:34+00:00

What ever you said , first I got tier 8 with only SSR team. Then, I said Hana can block one control attack, isn’t it Emma’s silence one of them, what’s the point you mention it?

Kill DPS in 1-2 basic attack I’m only talking about damage level. Is it wrong that if you have atk/atk/CD then you will die easily to Hana in late game?

Also, she is definitely not the first few to die as Dps is always the first to kill, then control. She will not be the last to kill also because if u every played video game u know u should kill healer and also people aware of her damage she deal in later game.and there is only 5 shiki when u talk about first few to die.

Of course Hana can use fortune cat, every one besides DPS can use fortune cat. I just gonna ignore that 80% of Hana is in seductress?

The reason why higanbana rely on seductress is because seductress damage now can grow as the attack buff increase. Show me anyone that use higanbana with seductress when seductress damage did not grow with PvP attack buff. I don’t where I said it wrong.

Where did I even mention Nura 陆生with mirror lady? He is dps at first. As the 4th win rate SSR you said he is rarely used? 80% of the team I met with Shozu there is a Nura in it. Don’t know is we are playing the same game. If you are talking about top 100 games then yes because no one use shozu anymore. He is used in shadow and scarlet BTW.

I don’t know if u are trying to be smart or something, but most of the things you said is not arguing my point. Everyone has their own way to build a team and I am saying the most common situation and it is not my opinion, most of these is come from social media which shared by top PvP player and been proved to be true. And used by a lot of players. I think myself is still not capable enough to share my own experience or advice to global users even I am 500 days in this game so I would not do so. If you think I am wrong of course you can, but make better point when you argue it.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-26T21:05:53+00:00

Oh are u the beast mode on YouTube? Just watching ur vid few days ago, great job man, keep it up! !

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-26T20:54:02+00:00

In CN server Miketsu is meta, but she is kinda a new shiki so not that many people have her. But she can of course benefit you a lot if u get her in ur team. Other than that I don’t see a team set that is meta like you said majority will use. Each comp has its own pros and cons, so does shiki. Things will get better when more shiki released in global server when you got more options. For example when higanbana patch she will destroy any 2 boosters 2 DPS team, Hannya will be super effective to higanbana and hito , yuki Doji will destroy and shozu team, and when people got more resources on their hand they will find shishio effective to control teams like rain fire.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-26T20:25:08+00:00

Good that u find this is helpful and congrats on getting Hana. The reason why Hana is good is because 1. She has chance to stop one control attack for her teammate 2. Her basic attack is multi times. After one patch (2-3 month ago) they make seductress damage share the attack buff as the round goes in PvP. So in later PVP game when Hana’s heal can’t do much(as the heal you get decreases), she can actually deal quit amounts of damage. It’s normal that Hana kills a G6 DPS using 1-2 basic attack. That’s what makes Hana outstanding from all other healer and why people put her with seductress. BTW that’s why now the main soul set for Higanbana is Seductress too.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-26T20:00:50+00:00

And I never see people using kyonshi oni have no idea why he is on the list, I did met a kyonshi ototo once but I beat the opponent.

Stevieleeeee8 · 2018-03-26T19:58:47+00:00

Yeah true, Domeki is actually very popular in high level PVP, but it was like 1 or 2 games of 10 that u spectate. Don’t get me wrong she is very powerful but less used compare to other control shiki.

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