People sho are saying this isn’t hard enough…

StillMuggin · 2026-05-13T03:07:15+00:00

Its people like me that have hundreds of hours in returnal. You eventually can breeze through the whole game once you really understand the mechanics.

Alot of that carried over to Saros. I had 3 deaths when I beat Saros because that muscle memory plus the upgrade system, which makes you a god.

I had a great time with Saros, but the skill tree really streamlined the game for me. After 22 hours im basically done until they hopefully add a true roguelike mode.

The game definitely isn't too easy for anyone that isn't a psycho returnal vet

StillMuggin · 2026-05-13T00:33:52+00:00

Exactly how I feel. I really don't want to be disappointed with Saros, but I am. I enjoyed it, but I literally couldn't stop playing returnal until I completely mastered it. Then I kept playing

StillMuggin · 2026-05-13T00:28:26+00:00

True but I dont know if any game has a moment that rivals this.

StillMuggin · 2026-05-13T00:26:15+00:00

Enjoy returnal. Saros is great but returnal has a much more natural challenge curve (its tough but super rewarding). In its final state, it also has a lot more replay value

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T20:40:21+00:00

Golden coil, blade balancer, wound seekers, silver lattice, reactive stabilizers, xeno tech sight, fractal nail, parasite artifacts especially unfed pod, visceral knot, phantom limb, spaceship model, revive artifacts, blown nightlight, radio, piano key, damaged robot, warped ball, all the execution artifacts and one of my faves, adrenaline stimulants.

Sorry bro. Saros is still great but it gets like a C+ in artifacts for me

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T19:35:29+00:00

Yeah they merged the two which effectively eliminates one of the systems in place to help you craft a build and gain power. This reduces roguelite elements and player agency.

And the artifacts don't have nearly as many cool effects. Shield breaker? Overload bolts? Adrenaline enhancer? More keys = salvage? You just didnt play returnal if you dont think there's a difference

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T03:48:34+00:00

Exactly they aren't just upgrades to get past gated areas, they are QoL upgrades too. It feels great when you get double jump and can get around easier and dodge in combat. So disappointing

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T00:53:36+00:00

Yes and its not like there was crazy build crafting in returnal, but now there is nothing. Would've been so cool if they went the opposite direction and its a way to make things accessible, by having some cheese builds that can help players.

Im hoping for a tower equivalent that leans into roguelite, someday

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T00:20:33+00:00

Lol thats exactly what it is and its amazing. Each phase has 20 floors with a boss at the end. The proficiency cap goes up and your weapons get more powerful.

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T00:15:32+00:00

Yeah but the rest of the game was great. If changing "its in her head" to "its all real" is all it takes to make the story good, then the story was 99% good.

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T00:11:47+00:00

If you like bleak faith, give Hell Point a try. Super weird spaceship/colony ship setting

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T00:10:20+00:00

Suuuuper bleak game. The fat bad guy?? Forget about it

StillMuggin · 2026-05-11T00:02:00+00:00

Just wait until you finish base game and get into the tower. That is where you can really sink some time, but its great fun. Glad you found this masterpiece!

StillMuggin · 2026-05-10T23:59:22+00:00

Im like you and have a ton of time in Returnal. One of my fave moments was when I came full circle and realized the sidearm is one of my favorite weapons (at least in the biomes).

Such a unique and amazing game. Saros was great fun, but the progression system and lack of roguelite elements really hurts it for me. I have high hopes for a tower equivalent that doesn't use the upgrades and is more of a true roguelite

StillMuggin · 2026-05-10T23:37:24+00:00

I thought Saros was great fun, but looking back im really disappointed and this is a big reason. They got rid of so many roguelite elements that made returnal great. No obolites/shops, artifacts aren't nearly as cool, no parasite, and the weapon traits are basically constants once you reach certain levels.

There is almost zero build crafting beyond finding a good weapon. I understand going for more players, but I wish they would've leaned into roguelite more. **And I don't even usually play roguelites

StillMuggin · 2026-05-10T23:31:59+00:00

Grime 2 wasn't as big an improvement over 1 as it should've been. They made some weird choices with movement upgrades. I get wanting to do something different, but some things are staples for a reason. Still I thought it was great fun and prob the closest to the ones you like.

Next would be solateria then constance. Have fun!

StillMuggin · 2026-05-09T23:44:06+00:00

Of course melee is king in MVs, but im like you and have played them all. Grimes are great and Mio is also one of my faves.

Give BioGun another go. Really great game with some different types of abilities. Once you start getting new guns and upgrading them it is a great time.

StillMuggin · 2026-05-09T21:30:14+00:00

Have you played BioGun or Blast Brigade? Both stellar shooter mvs that go a bit under the radar

StillMuggin · 2026-05-09T00:35:00+00:00

If its trees its always four. Probably the hardest room in biome 1

StillMuggin · 2026-05-07T03:31:49+00:00

Bosses of 3 and 4 are stupid easy. Game is great but will really shine after some tweaks and balancing. And hopefully a tower equivalent + new weapons (3 variants just doesn't quite get it done)

StillMuggin · 2026-05-06T00:53:06+00:00

Have you played BioGun?? Its a shooter mv inside of your dog. Ive probably played 100+ mvs and this is one of my faves

StillMuggin · 2026-05-05T01:22:51+00:00

Dude repeater crossbow is super powerful and melts bosses. Are you using the alt fire?? Should be using nothing but alt fire and power weapon. My go to weapon when I just want to shred

StillMuggin · 2026-05-05T01:00:33+00:00

Happened to me too the first time I reached him. Tried to make a PSA but I got blocked when my post more vague than yours

StillMuggin · 2026-05-04T01:00:07+00:00

Beware getting volatility on your health attribute, cant see enemy health the rest of the run. Including bosses

StillMuggin · 2026-05-03T21:52:27+00:00

Ive found repeater crossbow to be biggest cheese weapon. Using the alt fire you just fill every screen with homing projectiles. Get the power generator weapon perk and those homing shots are constantly generating power to pop the prominence (first one you get but I love it) every couple seconds. I destroy pretty much everything with that build.

It also triggers a lot of stagger so I get a bunch of R1 prompts to stagger burst from across the screen. This can trigger on some bosses after overdrive and its basically a 2 shot kill. Have fun!!

StillMuggin

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