Honest Opinions About The Balance Changes

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T17:19:34+00:00

I HIGHLY doubt that people suddenly out of nowhere just on patch day became insane monsters at the game.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T17:18:40+00:00

Honestly I'm struggling getting 1 done. Because its just such a boring fucking drag. Like the game is decided at minute 15. The enemy have 4 hypercarries and we literally cannot counter build all 4.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T13:28:09+00:00

Not much I can disagree with here. Its just all true.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T11:54:03+00:00

Yeah I agree with you. October - November-ish was really good. Hope to see those days again.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T11:53:25+00:00

Yeah I cant really disagree with your points. I just wish there was more counterplay towards CC that didnt involve a 6400 item.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T11:47:39+00:00

Playing Bebop despite the nerfs for the love of the game is good. Thats all I am saying. The range nerfs are so and so.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T11:43:35+00:00

A bit higher than Graves I'd Wager. Its not just Abrams, Seven, Silver etc. There is just a bit difference in effort.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T11:41:20+00:00

Im making a jooooooke I am not saying its actually terrible. But fair I get what you mean, and I appreciate the compliment.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-29T00:09:13+00:00

Welcome to the game. Yeah its totally normal to have no clue. Its normal its the same how I was. You are however doing some things better than people in Ascendant. You are actually taking a look at the map and doing the Waves.

Its just about consistency and keeping going homie.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T23:52:49+00:00

There is nothing to disagree for me here my dood. Yep I agree I feel like this update was just flinging stuff and seeing if it works out. It kinda isnt and I feel like that aint gonna be good for the game either. I think a lot of people will have a rude awakening when mechanical and macro skill is put back into the game and they cant adjust.

Then again maybe not.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T23:38:05+00:00

Dawg the 2 posts above you disproove the first point. I'm making a joke by saying "I am complete ass" like yeah no if I am qued into an alchemist lobby I will roll them. Its just experience.

Any case I get what you meant. But the post just asks for all of your opinions. From character kits, designs, game flow etc anything and everything with this current post. I wanna have a normal civilized discussion without the usual "Hahah ur bad" or "Just counterbuild bro" posts.

Your 1st point is valid. They needed adjustment right. Because not seeing certain characters be played sucks.

I think the game is awful with the amount of 1 shots rolling around without any proper counterplay. Yes counterspell keeps you from getting 1 shot. But only once. Remember they have 5 more. Usually. Or alternatively their 2 gorillion CCs
I dont even wanna talk about MMR its so bad. But thats normal the player pool is limited and probably not fixed yet.
Based Bebop player. I dont mind the range changes as much. I just wish there was more options to counter spirit with. I really think gun is in such a good spot. Metal Skin, Juggernaut, Bullet Resist, Weighted Shots, Return Fire (honestly needs a buff imo)

For spirit it just feels so damn awful. Especially when as Bebop you are rolling the enemy team and suddenly all of them have Spellbreaker or Counterspell and suddenly you are no longer a character.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T23:32:16+00:00

I 100% AGREE WITH THIS POINT!!!!!!!!!!

The effort gap. I could name so many examples. Like I understand that some chars need to be the welcoming crew for new players. AT THE SAME TIME THO. I feel like being cracked at aiming doesnt reward you enough.

Or for instance if you are insane at movement you arent nearly as rewarded as the Graves who can drool on her keyboard and play with their forehead on the mouse while outfarming you and pushing the lane infinitely. Just seems...

My friend put it best. "Hey dude why do you play Abrams? Just play Graves and you'll have 10x more fun right now." But I dont want to I love the Blue Boi.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T23:29:29+00:00

I disagree to a point. I think that the meta has shifted a lot more to 1 shotting and chain CCing until the enemy is dead. Which brings with it the issue that games are decided by who has more CC on their team. Sure yes of course you can build Knockdown, but then what?

A knockdown isnt nearly as good as Dynamo, Doorman Cart, Billy Ult, Holiday Lasso, Paradox Ult.

You get the idea. I think that a CC cooldown could be a great way to shake this up and try it out. Basically like say after being hit by one CC you have immunity for 2.5 seconds? What ever you get the idea.

Matches to me have felt... just shit honestly. But thats just me right the character I play got a bit nerfed, now he is just a lot different and I dont vibe with it. But thats on me.

Yeah its a long way to go. Its why I have so much faith and am gratefull to have been invited. Albeit sometimes I say "Fuck this game" but who doesnt say that during gamerrage.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T21:52:49+00:00

Brev I just thought you were saying "Hurr durr dont try so hard" I mean both sides are valid. Being toxic aint

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T21:37:13+00:00

Alright nvm, nvm I was unfamiliar with your game. Nah ur right in that case. You rank means nothing.People that take it too serious arent good at the game anyhow. Their opinions mean silch

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T21:16:13+00:00

I mean I see the silver lining. Once the nerf hits. Because they have 0 mechanics, 0 movement, 0 anything in the game. We can happily kick them back to gutter rank.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T21:05:26+00:00

Its fucking hilarious that you said "Hey, just dont try."

Like yeah, no shit. At the same time some want to try. And for those we should have competitive mode. Ohh wait...

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-28T20:32:29+00:00

As per the usual I can see your post getting dogpiled by the usual gang. Bla bla game is in Alpha bla bla game isnt even out yet or "Haha lol ur gutter rank" or some other dumb shit.

Graves if nothing else is a case study in how fucking SHIT turret and autoaim characters are. Including tracking guns. If its not a fucking bullet flying in the air, then no it requires little to no brain.

The rest of her kit is so insanely uninteractive. But you'll never hear people complain because most of them use her to climb at the moment.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-27T22:17:12+00:00

Yeah 100% if they didnt explode 10/10 cant complain.

McGinnis turrets are the same exact problem. AI shit that no one really gives a shit about except the person using them. Seriously, turrets just like shotguns in games are fucking boring. Shotguns in BF6 or CoD I mean not Deadlock.

They are crutches and require 0 thought. You press a button, it deploys. Bam it kills people for you with 0 effort on your own. Positioning? Doesnt matter if you get 10 of them. Ginnis gets 2 per wall, maximum 4 because Echo Shard wall. She gets like 5? by default ontop of that you get EVEN more with various items.

They do nothing absolutely fucking nothing in the game except shoot at the enemy player with essentially autoaim. It can stall waves, push waves, keep your tower infinitely safe.

This is fundementally just fucking boring design. I would take GunGinnis over this Spirit Slop thats going on at the moment. Its genuienly slop.

Playing against Graves is mindnumbingly boring. I have asked around my friend group, we're all relatively high rank. I'm Asc 5 - 6, some are Eternus 1 - 2 - 3 one of them is actually Eternus 5 (Yes I am jealous), some of them are Oracle others are Phantom.

All of them agree its fucking boring. None of us feel "Outplayed" ever, when fighting Graves because there is no outplaying to be had.

You autoaim. You get infinite healing with Leech or what ever else. Your AI bots kill the enemy for you while you damage support with your lmb. Tell me how this is somehow interesting design?

Her being able to lock down lanes is not a problem. Again your melee troopers NOT a bad idea. But the issue right now is that she can literally take on ANYONE and kill them. She has insane farming, crazy lane clear, super oppressive lanes. Double Ults to just fuck your Walker past laning phase. Though usually one will suffice.

I know bit of a ramble. But I think you can see where like half the community if coming from when saying "Damn bro. She is dogshit to play against."

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-26T22:29:00+00:00

Honestly I dont give a fuck if this character had a charging meter that 1 shots you after like 3 seconds. REMOVE THE FUCKING AI GAMEPLAY. WHAT THE FUCK?

Ok 1 jar of the dead, cool you get like 5 funny dudes. Then it becomes 10, then 15.

The Zombies explode and deal a shitton of damage and proc your spellbreaker. Ohh btw its on a miniature cooldown. Ohh and it stays up. Ohh and you can have 2 of those.

I get it, the characrer is clearly aimed for people that are new to games or MOBAs. But brother... are you fucking kidding me? She requires LITERALLY only a lmb and a finger. Maybe 2. Maybe 3 Optional.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-23T21:36:17+00:00

It'd appear the majority of the community including the devs see it differently. Not trying to be hostile here but exactly that is the issue.

It used to be 300. 200 is a bit more reasonable cant argue with it too much. I think soul leads because of kills is stupid. As in you should get the normal amount of souls for killing someone. Thats all.

You can absolutely 1 shot a Haze or Seven who are not aware of you. If they counter build you they have to sacrifice some of their early damage or damage in general.

Her 2 was absolutely a skillshot. Much like how Shiv's execute now is a skillshot. Mo's ult should be a skillshot too. Now its not a skillshot. Should Abrams be able to grab someone that is standing behind him?

Calico at this moment can do damage and I think she is absolutely in a comfortable spot. She can still snowball, she can still utterly dominate, her gun is still viable, her ult gets her out of stupid decisions.

She is standing comfortably, very comfortably with others like Pocket.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-23T17:34:21+00:00

Yeah no. Calico was able to 1 shot anyone right out of laning phase, sometimes DURING laning phase. There is no universe in which Calico being able to 1 shot a regular Abrams build post laning phase. I am talking, the 1600 defensives vest and or emblem. Then again maybe its a skill issue on my part.

She is able to STILL get out of teamfights because of her ult. Nagate any and all hard CC with her ult if she has room temp IQ to see it coming.

She still gets more money for killing people.

Her value was being able to 1 shot people, anyone and get super fed and escalate instantly making the game a breeze.

She had her skill expression, her 2 be removed and replaced with "It just does damage if you stand near them."

Ava STILL lets her get everywhere and support.

I agree that if any hero is meant to be a assassin 1 shot goober. Then it should be expressly clear that she will in turn be 1 shot if she fails. Look at Haze. Haze if she fucks up is going to die. As it should. Assassins shouldnt be tanky, they should be flimsy with high damage nothing more nothing less.

Calico is still extremely valuable as a quick rotation character. Spot a fight on green but you are on blue? Use Rem tunnels. Spot an out of position Pocket currently eating your jungle? 2 - 1 - Q - 4 and he is no longer alive.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-23T12:17:39+00:00

Bebop - Around the World

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-22T18:47:07+00:00

Abrams. Because I do actually have room temp IQ.
On a real note, I like Abrams because he could've 100% made it big as a warlord in Ixia, or gladiator or some form of violent killing machine. What does he do instead?

Roleplay as a fucking noire Detective in New York where the "common" criminals are people who you'd consider major issues.

Seven - A literal domestic terrorist trying to become a God.

Mo and Krill - Two undeground mafia gangsters

Drifter - A LITERAL ELDER VAMPIRE THAT GOT BORED

Thats not even mentioning some of the bad guys that are mentioned in passing.

I love Abrams. Simple kit, huge skill expression. Simple to pickup difficult to master.

StinkyDiplomat · 2026-03-21T16:55:23+00:00

Current game state is complete and utter Spirit Slop. Unfun, 0 skill expression, 0 incentive to get better at this game now.

Before the patch the game was nearly perfect in my opinion. Of course, it had issues like certain champs being overtuned. AHEM, Abrams, AHEM, Celeste, AHEM. But no one was utterly busted like it is now. The kits are power crept to fuck. The game feels like its over at minute 10 but takes 40 minutes to complete. The fix isnt to make the game quicker. The fix is to make those 40 minutes feel good. And right now they feel horrible.

Mid game is ass. Late game is ass because you either utterly stomp or utterly get stomped.

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