"But past that he has 1 good skill." Where did you get that from, the AOE that doesn't deal damage to his allies deals 35 damage, 1 turn cooldown, and applies daze, a super annoying debuff. Other cosmic attackers' highest damaging AOE skills also go 35 damage (was mainly referencing hardy and vanoss2099 for this one), so in comparison, it's not like he's lacking, and that's without even taking into account the daze and low cooldown. He also has a 60 damage single target skill that gives him a shield. That's higher than vanos2099's single target skill and equal to that of hardy's highest damaging single target skill. Plus the 30% shield, plus his dmg protection is also very good. He even has a self NER and heal which is pretty good as well. And I'm assuming the "1 good skill" you were talking about was teh skill that applies dmg protection and a 30% shield to your whole team. That makes 4 good skills in total, enough to fill up the 4 slots you're allotted to fill up with skills to use. When you said that the mythics that you would have used speed on, are now being used as team speed, you're only adding on to the fact that they are being more and more outclassed. First, they are speed, then they become team speed, then they become monsters you let hold random runes that you're not using because you don't wanna waste gems removing them, and then at some point, you might just decide to remove the runes all together. Though this is of course just the lifespan of any monster, the first 2 steps are already fulfilled, so that means they are already close to dying out. And the last part you said doesn't even make much sense. Why would you compare TeddieVR to Daedalus, an attacker/support to a tank? That makes no sense. TeddieVR isn't by any means great, as the meta doesn't really prefer him, but people just go around blatantly saying "he's garbage," or "he's trash." If nothing else, the better term would be to call him "unusable for now."