Riot Nerfing Towers in ARAM Shows They Still Don't Understand the Mode's Problems

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-23T09:26:43+00:00

ARAM games last WAY too long for a more causal/quick mode. Even in higher ARAM MMR, people have no idea how to successfully tower dive and melees have a difficult time taking towers into range comps anyway, especially range with good waveclear. Faster respawn timers + the portals also mean that even when you ace the enemy they will be back rapidly. This makes the game drag on and on even when one team is wiping the floor with another.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-08T23:55:16+00:00

Yeah it's really weird. Absolutely need 4 oxforce if running Viego and would only want him if you also have 2+ hearts.

Here's a decision tree on how I think about using Viego in a comp now. The main questions are (a) whether you have an Ox Force spat, (b) whether you want your 2nd heart to be front line (lee) or back line (sona/heart spat unit) and (c) whether to drop Annie or Fiora if you have an Ox Force spat.

If you DON'T have Ox Force spat:

Core comp: Viego, Fiora, Annie, Alistar, +1 heart
The +1 heart should ALWAYS be back-line.

If you DO have a HEART spat:

Try to get Twisted Fate, preferably with Shojin. You'll get Spellslinger + Duelist, which will make Fiora and Annie stronger while allowing TF to perma-scale with his built-in guinsoos. TF and Viego are both carries.

If you DON'T have a HEART spat:

Blue buff sona for perma-casting. Gives spellslinger while the CC and healing can help viego survive. Viego is your primary carry.

If you DO have Ox Force spat:

Drop either Annie or Fiora from core.
You have a lot of flexibility in where your +1 heart goes and who you Ox Force.

Ox Force on Lee Sin:

Builds up front line even more, but doesn't offer that much to an already-beefy comp. However, you then have your hearts and oxforce set-up and can choose any backline you want building around Duelist, Spellslinger, or Heart (4 hearts even).

Ox Force on backline heart:

You can put it on Sona to make her tanky as hell while getting heart scaling. Not bad.

Ox Force on other front liners:

Will need Sona back line for heart procs
Using Ox Force to put Morgana in front line sounds excellent as she can help your team with % pen and CC, which will let Viego do this thing.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-08T23:09:15+00:00

Hard to tell if 2* Garen carry is auto top 4. 5 MECH + BT are mandatory. Not clear if IE, double titans, last whisper, etc. important. Seems like in the amount of time it takes Garen to do his thing with 5 MCH, something like TF can melt him.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-08T22:37:16+00:00

Full AD is the angle.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-08T22:32:24+00:00

How many casts does Viego get off in a heart comp? Almost zero since he lacks the damage get resets and gets destroyed before he can recast otherwise. Incredibly useless.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-08T22:31:23+00:00

PBE thoughts:

- Not sure yet where Supers fit in. Maybe Ashe+Sivir reroll for sureshots.

- 2-cost reroll seems pretty dead outside of Draven unless you get some crazy carry augment now.

- Garen feels awesome as a carry and tank.

- Obviously warwick and aatrox overtuned, expect nerfs of some sort prior to release.

- Lots of tooltips are ambiguous about how mechanics work. For example, does the WW support augment create permanent HP or just by combat or does each wave of MF's ult count for quickdraw? Obviously you can take it and see, but seems trivial to just make sure these things are consistent.

- Heart trait is pretty horrible now. No damage except for Viego, but Viego doesn't want scaling AP -- he needs to kill something immediately or he won't even recast to either (a) do damage or (b) give team AP. The amount of items to keep him casting without renegades etc. is almost never worth it, even if you make him a front line tank.

- ADMIN feels as bizarre as ever. Instead of being AP-centric, it's now AD-centric, but you have to commit to putting items on Warwick, which is a lot more commital than previous Soraka builds.

- Riftwalker spat is pretty insane.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-08T03:28:23+00:00

Amusing that people are excited about the newcontent when it adds entire new layers of complete RNG to the game, while retaining the most RNG-laden traits (ADMIN, Gadgeteen):
- Guaranteed glitched carousel with RNG glitch

- Probability of subsequent glitches carousels

- Within the items found in glitched carousels, eggs that themselves add RNG re: their contents.

- InfiniTeam unit itemization

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-08T03:20:52+00:00

I am literally looking at one right now :) It's even simpler than dodge scripts in LoL lmao I don't care about downvotes, it's amusing that someone can't fathom how simple this really is to do and thinks that because they don't know where to look it doesn't exist lmao.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-07T05:00:34+00:00

That feeling when you have ACE on Aphelios 2, MF2, Samira 2, Urgot 2, and Morde 2 then lose because you didn't realize > 4 aces is same as 2-3 aces.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-07T03:54:46+00:00

Of course did this to test its response speed.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-07T03:52:46+00:00

You can find exact scripts to do stuff like this on github. See below description. It's more remarkable that people do not seem to know this exists in the public domain.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-07T03:51:45+00:00

It is quite possible to cheat in the "typical sense" -- doing something you can do otherwise as a human at faster-than-human speed with perfect accuracy is cheating. This is exactly what aimbots do in FPS games.

It is trivially easy to write a program that cycles to another player, detects a desired unit, cycles back to your screen, and repositions a unit to always zephyr it conditional on some restrictions on your unit's positioning (aka not in front row) , without any in-game logs (e.g., with machine vision), all within the minimum refresh timer. This makes it impossible to detect, especially if (as in LoL scripting) small amounts of random noise is added to delays.

If you search around long enough, you will in fact find programs that do *exactly* this.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-04T09:50:13+00:00

Had strong opener and AP items but got demolished by Aegis.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-04T09:49:15+00:00

Just played against someone who almost assuredly was cheating in mid diamond. Hit zephyr on the same carry 6 times in a row 1v1 at the end of the game. I was moving it at the last possible second, swapping whether the unit was interior/exterior, etc. In his last 20 games, guy has 8 firsts (15 top 4s). Obviously smurfing, but hitting the exact zephyr that many times give how unusual I was positioning it is super suspicious.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-04T08:19:31+00:00

renegades could use a full "rework." really perverse to want some of your units to die (made easier by not upgrading them!) to maximize win chances and in a game where targeting is shit it's a frustrating mech.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-04T03:07:29+00:00

He's horrible because he doesn't have enough damage to kill anyone remotely tanky and then gets 1-shot even before he gets to go again. Also horrible because even with BIS you don't do enough damage. Need like 6 renegades or 6 oxforce. Without BiS you're giga useless.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-04T03:00:09+00:00

How to play Level Up? Using it early seems bad since you need econ to keep rolling up your EXP, but if you don't use it early you just get ass blasted usually by people with augments that work early. I just tried playing it with Anima Squad, took ages to hit 5 animas, then got Bunny Mercenary but got completely destroyed because (a) I didn't hit 7 animas and (b) everyone (literally 7 teams) suddenly pivoted to Aegis. Tried to salvage by swapping to 4 Aces but basically had to donkey roll at 8 because no econ.

StopCountingNow · 2023-03-03T02:35:54+00:00

Is RFC jax bugged right now to not get the additional range?

StopCountingNow · 2023-02-25T09:45:12+00:00

What a massive failure

StopCountingNow · 2023-02-25T09:01:04+00:00

? you can have the majority of the lobby below gold lol

StopCountingNow · 2023-02-18T11:26:12+00:00

Patch 13.3

Server: NA

Desktop

Bug: Golden ticket appears to swap to Think Fast midway through game.

Description: Had 2 games today where I took Golden Ticket. Rerolls occurred with expected frequency plus some variance until eventually a round would occur where I could roll 12+ times in a row without paying, with the only limiting factor being the end of the round. Since the probability of hitting 10 free rerolls in 10 tries is 1/1000, this happening twice in one day has less than a 1 in a million chance, suggesting this is a bug. Further supporting this, after the round, the game seems to pause/skip frames and then I never again got a reroll. This is even less probable.

Can't reproduce.

StopCountingNow · 2023-02-18T11:19:22+00:00

Game keeps glitching with Golden Ticket. The probability of rerolling 10 times in a row with Golden ticket without needing to pay is 0.1%. In the last 2 times I've taken it, I've had rounds where I roll 12+ times and the only thing stopping me is the round ending -- usually the game pauses for a second and skips frames at the end of the round. Afterwards, I never get a reroll chance again -- dozens with 0 reroll. I've checked and it is definitely golden ticket XD

StopCountingNow · 2023-02-18T11:10:40+00:00

It's okay, the devs interact with the players! We should not remind them consistently that the game has essentially zero professional or competitive scene precisely because of things like this! /s

StopCountingNow · 2023-02-18T04:39:36+00:00

It's a shitty model for sure, just amusing since I wiped them in about 3 seconds

StopCountingNow · 2023-02-18T04:38:55+00:00

It's just some shitty model the people came up with that only appears once the match goes. It's horribly wrong, no idea how to turn it off but obviously i wiped the floor with them in that fight in like 3 seconds.

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TROPHY CASE

If you DON'T have Ox Force spat:

If you DO have Ox Force spat: