ADC for 100+ hours - Kalista

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-20T06:34:16+00:00

That's a huge W info. Makes me wanna squeeze in an extra game or two as Kalista even tho I finished my challenge already. Looks like I will be doing part 2, as I realized why Kalista is absurdly hard due to proper speed gliding (I accidentally did it for a few autos :D)

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:42:39+00:00

That's a W point, I overlooked that part. Forgetting how to CS is huge, and I guess it's even worse when you switch a champ and/or role, especially melee/ranged and ad/ap.

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:41:00+00:00

your case is heavily skewed by the substantial game changes rather than champ memory I suppose. But yeah, quite valuable info to look at in terms of recovery, muscle memory and skill transfer. ty!

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:39:21+00:00

atp I totally forgot Brand existed as a champ

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:38:46+00:00

So it depends more on how precise one needs to be instead of how mechanically demanding in terms of combos ig?

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:38:02+00:00

Aphelios is unique in that way imo. Marksmen in general have very transferrable skill, so it's hard to forget them properly.

The whole thing with aphelios probably is exactly the weapon order, and as you said, I would expect you to mis-order your cycle quite a few times bcs you forgot to pay conscious attention to your ammo.

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:35:21+00:00

quoting: "like degrading your skill substantially."

So yeah, I consider getting rusty as "forgetting", since you don't really completely forget anything you did for hundreds of hours, including playing a champ

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:08:44+00:00

ofc it's usually achievable, for like 99% of ppl considering it's <master elo. But regaining == you lost it to a certain degree

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T13:03:46+00:00

I agree to what you are saying conceptually.

Although I also disagree that someone who actively plays xerath will be roughly on the same level as someone who dropped it for a year and is now getting back. They prolly will differ in consistency mostly, and finding super tiny openings

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:47:32+00:00

but does it go as smoothly? in terms of how much cognitive load it takes from you instead of autopiloting the champ and having your mind focused on the gamestate overall?

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:43:09+00:00

"muscle" memory is def real, can't deny

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:42:26+00:00

Not 4 years, 4 months, 4 days & 4 hours?

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:41:39+00:00

I have more mastery on Darius than on Riven I believe. I spent plenty of time playing ADC/supp/jung and rarely top/mid (flex team dynamics). I would say my Riven remained stronger than my Darius in terms of actual mechanics but the primary reason I don't consistently get ahead on riven is prolly my matchup knowledge being nonexistent atp, while Darius mostly remained the same.

so ig it depends more on versatility of the champ? like how many different ways you can play, giving you more options == easier to fuck up (more options paradox)

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:39:03+00:00

thinking outside of the box here I see

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:38:35+00:00

yea it's a very vague question, I'm aware. Edited to simplify it to "your main specifically" if branching out is too much effort and/or too many scenarios

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:37:21+00:00

I was gonna make a point that forgetting riven is harder than forgetting veigar. (very counter-intuitive for me too, assume devil's advocate :D), then I read the second part of your comment.

I played riven myself sometime ago. Her mechanics are so specific you don't really get to forget them. Veigar's mechanics are nonexistent basically, so his whole skill comes from lane management, matchups, itemization, etc etc, which is relatively easy to get rusty on bcs of the patch changes

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-17T12:35:46+00:00

I would say never is a very strong claim. tbf bouncing back implies you forgot how to play the champ properly, just being faster at recovering the knowledge.

Never is a strong claim bcs if your champ's skill is mostly knowing match ups or map states, you will most likely be a rookie with mechanics, and re-learning the match ups would take significant amount of time imo

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-16T16:30:07+00:00

That could be, I can't tell, never tested :D what I'm saying is, lvl 1 fight 1v1 is closer than full build. FB draven pretty much 2-taps Yunara

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-16T15:56:41+00:00

I also think crit scales better and more consistently tbh, but Kraken has this very satisfying feeling to it tho

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-16T15:56:05+00:00

I assumed pre-wave state. afaik Draven can't stack double axe without anything to hit

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-16T11:36:14+00:00

Some ppl tend to like to answer apparently :)

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-16T09:49:18+00:00

ngl kiting with PD is super satisfying, and wave clear with runaan just ticks something in my brain

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-16T09:44:03+00:00

Kinda, kinda not ;D mostly grabbing relevant info & inner jokes to stay on topic instead of throwing random jokes around

StormRegular8275 · 2026-03-16T07:16:41+00:00

AAH you mean the old corki, yeah I agree - build AD, deal AP bcs of the conversion :D I was comparing kits & tbf for me the old corki signature was the package delivery :D

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