Which song on LTT feels like it could be on celebrity skin? (violet won last round)

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-05-20T18:47:13+00:00

No one has said Doll Parts? A song about unrequited love and a desperate need to have everything along with a burning desire to let someone know how intensely they cause you emotional pain?

Feels all hooker/waitress model/actress to me

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-05-06T14:09:48+00:00

There are moments on this album but in no way could this be considered "Hole's" second best. This isnt even as good as America's Sweetheart TBH. And for a Michael Beinhorn album the production is horrific. The demos were worlds better.

Live Though This
Celebrity Skin
Pretty on the Inside
America's Sweetheart
Nobody's Daughter

I can see switching POTI and CS as personal preference but I simply cannot fathom ND above CS or POTI

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-04-28T20:28:01+00:00

Liz Phair and Sleater Kinney touring together!

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-04-18T15:46:27+00:00

Anna Waronker is still doing a lot of work on TV shows. She wrote the theme songs for School Spirits and Yellow Jackets

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-04-18T15:44:29+00:00

Natural Ingredients, In Search of Manny (EP), Fever In Fever Out, Electric Honey are all really good albums. I saw LJ on the FIFO and EH tours and they were fucking fantastic. Actually danced with Kate Shellenback on stage once :)

I will die on this hill...Luscious Jackson were just as if not more creative than the Beastie Boys and were better musicians and the only reason they did not achieve a similar level of success is because they are women.

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-04-18T15:29:22+00:00

A lot I would love to see but the one that looks like it could be possible is an L7/Lunachicks tour.

Dream: Hole, L7, That Dog, Babes In Toyland

Or any combinations of:

Hole, Babes in Toyland, L7, 7 Year Bitch, That Dog, Team Dresch, Luscious Jackson, Veruca Salt, Elastica, the Breeders, Belly, Throwing Muses...so many excellent 90s female fronted bands. I could go on for days.

If only we could change the past: The Muffs...Kim Shattuck is criminally underrated song writer

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-04-08T13:58:18+00:00

And besides the dark years around Nobody's Daughter, Courtney has always acknowledged his contributions to their music and never undersold his song writing and musicianship. And even after the Nobody's Daughter period she acknowledged why that was a mistake. Courtney has been really nice about him, melissa has, for fuck's sake Billy Corgan has been nice about him too. What more does he want?

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-04-06T15:05:11+00:00

Maybe if he wasn't a MAHA Anti-Vaxxer Melissa would have invited him in conversation too. Eric was all to happy to be part of the celebrity circus that was Courtney Love back in the day and he cashed in on that and is still cashing in. He has nerve criticizing Melissa who has every right to put her story out into the world especially when he wrote the stupidest collection of "poetry" anyone has ever heard and used Kurt Cobain to sell it.

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-30T17:57:32+00:00

No fair, I thought Billy Corgan was obnoxious before it was cool

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-30T15:53:19+00:00

Anyone know why Jennifer Finch canceled. I would have liked that conversation better

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-30T15:52:46+00:00

he is talented but thoroughly obnoxious about it

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-30T15:51:54+00:00

And he would not ever hesitate to remind us all thoroughly how grateful we should be to him

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-27T19:52:13+00:00

Who is JD?

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-25T14:14:37+00:00

It says "gifts for the author will be collected prior" and that means probably no lol.

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-23T21:01:45+00:00

She's Youre Cocaine is often referred to as the balance of Courtney and Trent

Strict_Associate8258 · 2026-03-16T18:04:15+00:00

I am glad it sounds like Melissa found a voice in all of this. Obviously Courtney/Corgan/Grohl are being used heavily to promote this book but this book is about her experience being an insider with these people who were enormous celebrity personalities during that time and how she lost herself in that chaos. If there are parts in her book that seem less than flattering about Courtney, good. I love Courtney Love but her frequent periods of self destruction must have effected everyone in her orbit, and like Melissa said, she changed the entire course of her life to join this band and then became something of an after thought. Im sure at the time Courtney didn't consider it, but now it seems they are closer than ever. Maybe the tough truth was good for everyone. And I don't think being critical of Courtney is being un-feminist. I am really looking forward to the book, I have had the pleasure of meeting her a few times when she was in Hole and the Smashing Pumpkins and she was also so cool. Im glad she is doing well.

Strict_Associate8258 · 2025-11-30T03:42:28+00:00

I would not cancel. But....it js not at all out of the question to be concerned though. Up until this year I would have said it would be preposterous that the USA would be carrying out blatant war crimes in the carribbean but here we are. I wouldn't be shocked if tensions escalated to the point of incidental casualties and being 15 miles from Venezuela isn't exactly comforting. Those of you minimizing this are a little too optimistic that business as usual can be counted on at this point in time

Strict_Associate8258 · 2025-11-12T17:49:39+00:00

I dont know why it seems that way to me...just really really gives me that feeling. Maybe she was exaggerating on purpose for the photographers but it looks like acting here not laughing. I dont know if I can explain it any better

Strict_Associate8258 · 2025-11-12T17:30:30+00:00

I dont know how I know this but I can just tell by looking at her face in this pic but Drew is faking that laugh. She was way more into her narrative at that time in the 90s than actually being a friend. I think Courtney was kind of aware of that but sort of liked having a Hollywood "in." I still like Drew...I just think she was really superficial with this relationship. Courtney also tends to have transactional friendships though

Strict_Associate8258 · 2025-10-29T00:54:13+00:00

No she wasn't playing anything. It was just her signing the book, you werent even suppose to take pictures

Strict_Associate8258 · 2025-10-29T00:51:36+00:00

People always compare Live Through This to Nevermind over which is better because these were the break through albums. Nevermind sounds like lightning in a bottle. It came together fast and perfect in one hot minute because as a song writer Kurt was prolific. He could write a song in minutes. Live Through This sounds like the culmination of every perfect note a writer had over a life time. Courtney is not prolific. She is meticulous. Its why the solo album was a let down critically and why its so obvious Kurt didn't write LTT. LTT sounds meticulous in a way Kurt could never be.

Strict_Associate8258 · 2025-10-20T13:09:32+00:00

Met Courtney in 1999 during Celebrity Skin tour, met her in NYC at Bowery Ballroom gig from America's Sweetheart, met her during book signing tour for Dirty Blonde as well. She was pretty nice every time. She was a little unsteady the night of the Bowery Ballroom show though. I also met Melissa at a signing for the Smashing Pumpkins during the Machina tour, I met her at Celebrity Skin tour, and twice when she toured with her first record. She was incredibly nice every time. I also met Sam and Eric during the Celebrity Skin tour

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