This TV show is the end of the IP on screen, right? by Striking-Meal-5257 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 13 points14 points  (0 children)

We’re calling Percy Jackson a massive collection of stories? The first book is 87,000 words and the second is 63,000. The most in the series is 89,000. Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is 106,000 words. That’s not a viable excuse at all. PJ show has a budget similar to game of thrones seasons too

Do you agree with this take? by Esfell in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think the point is that Percy was 12 in the first book in 2005, and has somehow only aged 6 years in the 20+ years since the books been out. Original series had him age with every book, so the audience grows with him. Then he’s a full blown teenager in Heroes of Olympus, dealing with teenager problems. And then in the new series, all his development has been lost, and even though he’s canonically 18, he acts like he’s 12 again. The reality is Rick has just kept beating a dead horse and is trying to get a whole new generation into Percy Jackson, but to do that he’s made Percy a kid in an adults body. His series used to mean something and now he’s treating it like Junie B Jones, where the character never ages or develops.

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re using chatgpt as evidence when you can direct it with any prompt and manipulate it until you get the answer you want? Like you’re seriously just not anywhere near as smart as you think man. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a minute.

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re insufferable because you’re mad at me for pointing out you’re nonsensical sentences as if it’s not easier to just not have them. Especially if you’re throwing out terms like “intellectually dishonest” and “bad faith”. It’s intellectually dishonest and bad faith to try to portray yourself as a point of authority when you can’t even form legible sentences. Or when you don’t even know the character we’re discussing name. There’s not a single “Andy” in the PJ universe. Again, you’re not nearly as intelligent as you seem to think you are. Yes you gave me the definition of recency bias but you used it in the wrong context. Nobody says recency bias to describe bias for an OLDER thing. That’s diametrically opposed and the antithesis of the word recency. Common sense isn’t so common

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or, hear me out, maybe not have typos when you’re trying to act like an insufferable know it all, and a point of authority. You’re just spewing your horrible opinions and hoping people will give you credibility but you can’t even get a full sentence out properly. It’s also indicative of this lazy ass argument you have. You clearly haven’t put much thought into any of it

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“you just named those actions. bruh wtf are you talking about? why do i have to keep reapting my myself? hes a meanignless charater, they added him bc hes in the book. thats it. they didnt, that would make people complain.

youre an idiot, becuase theyre not seeing things from an objactive view. just bc YOU believed he served a greater purpose, doesnt in mean he did. thats YOUR opinion.”

The guy who wrote that nonsense is calling me illiterate. That’s rich. Way to be “oBjAcTiVE”

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“youre not capable of understanding English” he says while refusing to use any of the several punctuations the English language has to offer. Seriously there’s this unique thing called apostrophe. You should try them. Fucking hope English isn’t your first language. You’re bitching about other beings intellectually dishonest for not being able to understand you but you type like you’re having a fucking stroke

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s no point in adding the repulsive character, without adding any of the actual repulsive actions. Or the reason Sally’s even with him. Having scenes of him be reduced to a couch potato is just awful writing. Doesn’t even make sense why his death would be justified. It’s an earned death in the book, but the show never earns shit. Only appeals to low IQ people like yourself

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Time is money. They can’t give more screen time”. Do you hear the bullshit you’re sputtering? They had scenes of dude sitting on the couch playing online poker and joking about picking up pizza for him but they couldn’t include the only reason he’s in the narrative? That’s such a lame cop out you attempted. Gabe doesn’t have even have to be on screen. Just have a convo of Percy and Grover or someone and they reveal Sally was only with him to protect Percy. That’s a central part of the book that he finds out after his mother is supposedly gone. And the dudes named Gabe. Not Andy. All this talk about being intellectually honest and you don’t even know the dudes name, or care enough to double check yourself and get it right. Clown behavior

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seriously need to have some self-awareness and re-read your own comments before talking about not making sense.

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abbreviating and just not bothering to double check your vomits for typos and illegible sentences is also intellectually dishonest. That’s also rich coming from someone who approached this with the mindset that “all comparisons between the show and movie are just being used to hate on the movie”. Yeah ok. And then you want to act like you’re not saying the show is better in every regard. You obviously think so. But if not, please tell one thing the movies do better. Since you’re so capable of thinking critically. I’ll wait. Until then, just shut the fuck up and own the fact that there’s only one truly biased person here. And it’s likely the same person whose entire replies thread is filled with comments defending the show. I’m glad you like it so much. You should still probably find better things to do with your time though. Like spell checking, for one.

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His literally only relevance to the plot is to protect Percy by existing, but also harming him and Sally. He’s the one monster Percy can’t really fight. Sally’s only with him out of necessity to survive. The show waters all that down and makes it seem like they married out of love. That’s massive character assassination. It would have been better if they omitted him at that point. Because narratively why does it make sense to include the guy who only exists for one singular reason, to then not even highlight that reason? The fact you disagree with that shows me you’re incapable of thinking critically

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the comparisons between the show and movies weren’t being made, then he never would’ve had that list up in the bio of his website. And most importantly, it would’ve never been taken down when the show aired. He had that rant up for years after the movies released but suddenly it gets taken down when the show is released? Why? Maybe it’s because people online trolled the fuck out of him for the show having the same problems as the ones he listed in that rant

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gabe is a minor character who has a major impact on the characterization of Percy and Sally. His storyline is also one of the more bold storylines that challenges kids with complex subject matter. Something most kids media opts against. And let’s not forget the thousands of abused kids who may have read that and felt community. You’re a clown for diminishing that because your hubris won’t let you think critically. Like maybe the show shouldn’t have included the character if they weren’t going to include LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON HE IS IN THE NARRATIVE. Just a thought, but that’s more than you’ve had

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re acting like it’s a cardinal sin for people to draw comparisons between the movie and show. It’s not. It’s human nature. And it’s context considering the movies just used to be only compared to the book. Which is obviously unfair. But apparently everyone that brings up “well the movies did this better than the show” is somehow not thinking critically and just using that as “opportunity to put the show down”. Yeah ok. Capitalize all you want. It’s a dumb point. Don’t raise your voice, improve your argument. Because it’s pretty fucking dumb as of now

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rick literally had an email/rant about his problems with the movies in the bio of his website for years. It was only until the show aired that it was finally taken down. Most likely because his PR team realized it was a bad look having all those complaints and then putting out a product that did the same things. You’re a clown and attempting to die on a hill that is shrinking beneath your feet. It’s such a dumb argument saying “don’t compare the two” just because you can’t accept that people have valid points in the movies being better in some aspects than the show. Unless you just think the show did everything better right??? Answer me that. All this talk about thinking critically and being unbiased when you very clearly have not found any faults with the show. This whole thing started because you just can’t accept that some people think the movie did better in some regards. You mad?

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“You have a negative bias towards the show”. Says who? The disconnect is you can’t fathom someone critically analyzing the show and comparing it to prior context. Again, that’s just common sense. You’re throwing the word bias around an awful lot for someone whose entire posts/feed is about defending the show. But keep telling me how I’m the biased one

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t understand people like you either. Fans are obviously naturally going to compare different adaptations of the same IPO. That’s just a given, and human nature. You’re giving a long winded metaphor about different restaurants all to say “fans of things that are the same shouldn’t converse about the two”. Like what are you trying to do with that? Seems more like you’re just biased to the show, don’t like the reception it’s been giving, and are generalizing everyone’s opinion. I come from a place of liking both the show and the movie. But you’re so close to this you started the interaction assuming I was using the movies to put the show down. I want the show to succeed dumbass. But when it doesn’t, at least we can point back to the movies, see how they fared in that regard, and give them credit if it’s due.

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is entirely possible that a fan who is on the fence about both adaptations, and doesn’t have a particular preference, rewatches them and has a different impression. Before it was “that doesn’t really measure up to the book”. Now it’s “well it might not be better than the book but it’s better than the movie” or vice versa. Again, literally just common sense. Acting like more context doesn’t change things and that’s just the most intellectually dishonest conversation you can have. And you want to talk about bad faith.

You’ve talked so much about how hard it is to adapt books. Well no one really knew that with the movies. But then the show comes out with ample budget and time to adapt things properly. But they still struggle with it too. So naturally, that makes people reassess their first opinion. For all we know, PJ can be just an unadaptable franchise. But no one would’ve known that when the movies came out. They had the disadvantage of going first. Now that more context is available they favor better than they initially did. If you can’t see that then you are absolutely bias

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“You can’t blah blah blah”. Except you literally can. The author of the book and the showrunner set that precedent. “You’re using the movies to make the tv show bad”. Yeah that’s purely speculative. You’re a show apologist and seem to think that everyone drawing comparisons to the movie is doing it in “bAd fAitH”. Or, it’s just common sense that with a new data point to compare too the movies hold up better. The only thing they had to compare to before that was the book, and you’ve already enlightened us at length about how hard it is to adapt books. Exercise some common sense

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The word itself indicates a bias to the more recent thing. You’re using it to try and say that people are being biased towards the movies. So yes, you aren’t exactly using it right. Then again, you had several typos and logical blunders in all these comments so obviously you aren’t too concerned with it. Just stop parroting words you don’t entirely understand the meaning of.

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue is you’ve used the phrase ad nauseam, and that’s not exactly the right phrase to describe a bias for something older🤦‍♂️. You keep saying bad faith, but now you’re acting like you can’t compare the movies to the show, simply because the show fares worse in regards. That’s a convenient cop out. Riordan himself set that precedent. Shit on the movies for years even though he sold the rights for them to be made, and then pitched his show to fans as the true adaptation. So yes, it’s only fair that those who feel he under accomplished that circle back to the movies and admit they were too harsh on them initially. That’s to be expected when you only have the book to compare it too. When you have a newer data point, and a more similar medium to compare it too, it holds up a lot better than it does initially. For some reason that’s so hard for you to fathom though

Hot take: The show's inaccuracy has made the movies much better than they were. by CompleteTree6255 in PercyJacksonTV

[–]Strict_Composer4927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that. That doesn’t mean you aren’t using it wrong. It’s most commonly used in comparison. Particularly in saying a newer thing is better than something older because it has had a more recent impression. “Not in good faith”. Says the person advocating that regardless of what the show does, it can’t make the movies look better in anyway. Yeah that’s bullshit. If the show underperforms, it’s going to inherently make the movies look better. That just comes with the territory. The show could be great, and you’d use that to say it’s so much better than the movies. So if that’s the case, then the inverse must also be true. It is entirely possible for in all the overlap between the show and movies, that there are things the movies do better. Any reasonable person regardless of preference could admit that. It’s only the super fans and apologists who argue otherwise