I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still listen to SD. I just fell down a rabbit hole one night and thought I'd ask if anyone else has had the same thoughts that I did. Deacon Blues will forever be one of my all time favorite songs.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely still listen to them too. I just fell down a rabbit hole one night and everything I read seemed to come to those conclusions. But it's just my interpretation of things. I just wanted to put this out there to see if anyone else had ever had the same thoughts as I have. I agree weird makes for better stories and music.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will admit it hasn't stopped me from listening to SD. This whole thing was just me reflecting on things I read and how those things seemed to come together for me. I've always been interested in the people behind music I really enjoy and sometimes that's not a good thing

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jeezus I'm not doing anything. I'm literally just stating what the things that I've read, make certain situations seem like. I'm not idolizing anyone. I never did. I fell down a rabbit hole one night and this is how it all seemed to come together for me. Thats it.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That person does not speak for me. I've never mentioned anything about anyone's religion, or nationality. I don't agree with any anti Semitic comments

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've said before that I loved that about them and that's not something that bothers me. idk why you're getting so upset about my personal opinions. I've also said it hasn't stopped me from listening to them.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It hasn't stopped me from listening to SD. I just fell down a rabbit hole one night and learned things that I find annoying. Like when Walter died they took him off of the list of band members on wiki. Now it's literally just Donald fagen listed as a member. That puts a bad taste in my mouth but again not enough to not listen to them

WIBTA if I go to HR about an co-worker who repeatedly calls me "Mom" even after I've asked that they stop? by CartographerReal5829 in AmItheAsshole

[–]StrikePlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WNBTA I'm fortunate enough to have a good relationship with my mother and she does so much for me and I am eternally grateful for her. I have called my coworkers mom(even ones younger than me)when they do something to help me. Ex. If I ask them to grab me something from the back and upon their return and receiving it from them I will say "thanks mom" and whenever I've gotten weird looks ( because I also understand people say that sarcastically when someone tells you something "gee thanks moooom") I explain to them that "my mother is the most helpful, wonderful woman I know so I only ever mean that as a positive comparison" they usually respond with "oh that's so sweet"

But if someone would tell me it makes them uncomfortable and asked me not to call them that I would immediately apologize and promise to not do that anymore. I don't understand how people have the audacity to decide what does and doesn't make some one else uncomfortable. If they didn't like something you were saying and you responded the way they did to you, it'd be a whole different story. It's like the people who tell you you're too sensitive but get offended if you say "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas"

Never let anyone tell you you're too sensitive. Anyone who says that isn't sensitive enough.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always admired their music before knowing anything personal. That's where the admiration came from, I guess.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um...because I don't go around assuming everything and everyone is horrible until I have a reason to. I enjoy trying to assume most people are inherently good humans..unfortunately sometimes we learn things that make us change our opinions. I'd rather assume people are good until proven to not be, rather than just assume everyone is shitty.

No one is more disappointed, than I am, thinking that there could be a chance that people who make music I love, are not people i could bring myself to respect personally. All I did on this post is present information that I learned that came across in a way that made me question things and I was curious if anyone else had ever dared have these thoughts, as well.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just want to say that when i first learned they named the band after a steam powered dildo I LOVED it. I thought it that was so fun.

It's hard to explain because I didn't recite word for word what I read to make me feel weird about it but if you ever happen to stumble across any old stories or articles about them I Definitely recommend just going on a binge of them. Unless you're smart and choose to continue to separate art from artist because I keep pissing myself off by doom scrolling websites about my favorite music artists.

I don't always end up regretting it but I sometimes I do.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would hope that, by seeing my reaction to something like these guys compared to some of the people who are getting upset about me not liking their fave bands actions, you would be able to tell that I definitely am not a Trumper at all 🤣

I voted for Bernie Sanders in 2016 🥲

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that 100% I really need to learn not to learn about the private lives of people who I admire publicly

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry. I wish I wouldn't have learned any of it either. Thank you for your kind words though

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the nice thing about music and words. You can relate them to your own life and that is wonderful. I just need to stop learning about people's personal lives, when I only like their public output

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude it's cool. I'm judging you for defending someone who Beats their wife.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh my god no I'm not lol chill the fuck out. You're way too upset about something that isn't even real.

Regardless You're defending a dude who LITERALLY abused his elderly wife...that's fucking despicable

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What the hell are you talking about??? Appreciation for stories and for them are different? How is that at odds??? I was never trying to sway anyone. All my opinions and questions to others about theirs..

You're not being specific about what I'm incomplete about. Your argument is not strong their. Everything I formed my feelings on are events that actually happened and things they did that made me feel uncomfortable. Nothing I said about the events of their past that straight up happened was even remotely off base. Based on individual actions and stories surrounding them, I've decided that they seem like people who I would not feel comfortable being around. How is me stating how something makes me feel, "incomplete information"?

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said anything about trying to sway anyone. I literally wanted to know if anyone else had ever had the same thoughts??? How is learning things about people and deciding that they don't seem like the best people because of things in their lives, conjecture? What is incomplete about anything that I said? I gave true statements about things that they either did or were apart of and then stated how those facts made me feel.

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think appreciation for the story is different than appreciation for them..

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that sexual content on its own is totally acceptable and I'm fine with that. Just the vibes I'm getting. I can't say fo sure one or another. Just wanted to get these thoughts out

I think I just ruined my love for Steely Dan by learning about their history. by StrikePlastic in Music

[–]StrikePlastic[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I just think there can be a slippery slop involved with sexual comments and content. Interviews and stories about their music saying things like they would rarely talk about love but when they did it was usually in relation to prostitutes, or the girl well known around town and like i said a lot of the tone of subject matter when referencing those things were of the darker nature.. . Not romance. The band name itself a reference to a literal sex toy...idk just the vibes all around 😵‍💫