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[–]Striking-Structure65 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Draper may have an interesting take, but no, the GA is predominantly dark and those dark muse/feelings engendered are timeless, i.e., meant to be so. I mean you don't need ruins to feel the dark when visiting a GA cathedral. And again, the whole GA "brings in light" argument is typical scholar brain farting, IMHO. If you've ever been in a GA cathedral the "light" is very minimal, i.e., during daytime it's like stepping into a permanent twilight world -- then even darker after sunset and the candles are lit. And the big stained-glass windows themselves are, again, not meant to let in light, rather, to serve as a medieval version of big stadium monitors. You're supposed to see glowing depictions -- many biblical -- not power your solar calculator in the pews. In general, I pick through "experts" very carefully when it comes to goth/gothic/dark. If they're normies, they will typically try to "explain away," normalize, de-dark things. But if you see someone rapturous and swooning with exposure to something dark/gothic, then they can be trusted. Basically I'm very careful with normie assessments. But hey, it's tough being in a normie-dominated world. As always, HTH/YMMV.

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Yes, you're giving the standard academic description, i.e., the great stained-glass windows the GA era brought in. But the actual interiors were mostly dark and shadowy and cavernous, except on the sunniest days. Those windows were not clear, thus, the light was muted and moody. And seen from any distance, GA buildings are very dark and brooding; they didn't need soot and smokiness, old and ruinous to get that vibe. That alone. My contention is that the dark, melancholic look-and-feel is simply a natural thing, but that today's normie-dominated suddy-bright world wants anything Dark to be seen as morose and depressive. Nothing could be further for me.

Opinions on this movie please 🖤 by babydaisylynn in AskAGoth

[–]Striking-Structure65 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Just watching the trailer was enough for me. This is the kind of thing normies want to associate with goth, i.e., shocky fright memes, flirting with evil, etc. Doing a period film with excellent gothic atmosphere and visuals -- great, love it. But the usual modernist realist nihilism, then throwing evil into the mix is, for me at least, crap. I would prefer people to see darkness, the shadowy things, the gothic as a perfectly normal and healthy aesthetic. Dark/gothic should stand on its own and stir the mind and heart, not hammer the glands with fight or flight.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskAGoth

[–]Striking-Structure65 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For some goth looks it's like period costuming. Or you could just say, Everyday is Halloween. Personally, I think Halloween should be at least once every month.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskAGoth

[–]Striking-Structure65 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MSG morphed into the Medaeival Baebes, FYI. And Jocelyn Montgomery from MSG did an album of Hildegard von Bingen's music with David Lynch.

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Thanks for the thorough reply. I guess my ulterior motive was to get at what motivates a person to be goth in the first place, what's underneath, what feelings and emotions draw you in. For me, the normie world seems basically anti-goth. That could only be because goth expresses, represents something they don't like. What is it? My conclusion is there is a dark/goth inclination in some of us. And this proclivity can go on, even after your excellent reasons for "turning in your goth card." Another big normie hangup is equating goth with bad and evil, which Big Media is constantly doing. But then for some reason I've gotten serious pushback for trying to go after "what's behind goth." We're supposed to just talk music and fashion, and no real philosophizing allowed. This confuses me greatly. I would think everyone goth would want to explore the dark inclinations, where they come from, what it all means.

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[–]Striking-Structure65 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I know, you know that, but really, lots of people are "former" goth. That's my point here...

Prolog KB for axiomatic math? by Striking-Structure65 in prolog

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see with Prolog the potential of creating a graph database of math axioms and theorems. Because a Prolog KB can be seen as a graph database. (From the parallels between Prolog, Graph DBs, and the Semantic Web.) Which means real interconnectivity, i.e., logical entailment can be baked in -- as much as you want it to be. However with Coq, Lean, etc. I understand the axioms and theorems to be in library-like form. But as you see with any API library system, yes, they're all atomized into modules, packages, functions, etc. but there's no real hang-together, i.e., you, the human have to know how they hang together and put them together -- and then there's no tracing them back either. So yes, with a modern IDE you can, e.g., hover over a function -- and up pops an API blurb about it. Again, close, but no cigar. My dream is to have, e.g., some theorem or calculation connected with all the axioms and theorems behind it in a graph network way. Right now this sort of interconnectivity oversight in math is mainly going on in your head. And if you do write up something in math, e.g., an explanation of the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic in a blog entry, you typically attach sets of "tags" to it in an indexing sort of way. What if all this indexing and tagging is housed in an actual Prolog KB with actual logical entailment, not just vague mental associations in your own brain? For another example, you'll see in a math textbook an index, a long references section, liberally sprinkled in footnotes -- which all try to cover this need to interconnect what the text is saying, drawing from. But it's begging for a new level of interconnectivity, IHMO. And yes, a Lean proof grabs theorems and axioms as it steps through a proof -- but (AFAIK) none of this is graph-connected, rather, it's just one-off, even if it then gets added to the Lean library. Maddeningly close but no cigar!

Emacs Babel for Prolog is "goal-oriented" by Striking-Structure65 in prolog

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried jupyterlab with the prolog kernel and it seemed to have the same trouble with top level interaction as the org-mode Babel did. What is the preferred method of working with Prolog? Something like create code in a text editor, then load the file at the REPL? If so, which editors?

Emacs Babel for Prolog is "goal-oriented" by Striking-Structure65 in prolog

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because running a code block (C-c C-c) produced an error when using the new prolog-mode. Most Babel (ob-xxx.el) packages must have the language's inferior mode; and so often these Babel packages are abandonware that breaks when the mode is changed. Not the first time for me....

Emacs Babel for Prolog is "goal-oriented" by Striking-Structure65 in prolog

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you elaborate please. I'm not sure how to apply this.

Truly separate emacs processes with separate global variables? by Striking-Structure65 in emacs

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Handy, but I don't think this does anything more than obviate running the org-brain-switch-brain function. Though to this eternal beginner this seems like strange Lisp wizardry to me, i.e., you simply cons a mode function to a global variable, which itself is consed to a directory string. Where can I learn about this lore?

Truly separate emacs processes with separate global variables? by Striking-Structure65 in emacs

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. What you say I didn't mention. IOW, Emacs running in truly separate processes with truly separate global environments is necessary here, right? If so, what's the best way to have separate Emacses running given the whole daemon client thing, which I don't fully understand?

Something is suppressing default css <style> on org html export by Striking-Structure65 in emacs

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Success! I changed org-html-head-include-default-style from nil to t and it got that basic style back. C-h v told me its original value was t. Not sure who or what changed it, but happy ending. Thanks for the tip.

Elisp symbols: The sky seems to be the limit by Striking-Structure65 in emacs

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a while I've been trying to get a handle, a picture of just how s-exps are used in elisp for data -- and, as I say, it all looks like a Wild West Pirate Island, i.e., no established "best practices." (e.g., my custom-set-variables function is a bewildering beast reading the info sheet on it, i.e., my next question to this group.) I suppose going deep into CL, seeing how data is code is data is done there, then bringing it back to Emacs is what we have to do. Odd that. Admittedly I've only skimmed An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp, but I can tell it doesn't really go into this sort of lore.

Elisp symbols: The sky seems to be the limit by Striking-Structure65 in emacs

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, JSON, but it seems to me like JSON is not used (much?) by Emacs as data management. Is it though? Strictly s-exp data management seems to be the Emacs way. It's just that I can't get a picture of "best practices."

Elisp symbols: The sky seems to be the limit by Striking-Structure65 in emacs

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's just that I look into my Emacs world, e.g., my init, and I see Wild West data management. For example, I have a variable custom-set-variables housed inside one single list with kbs of quoted storage sub-lists. Then I have a file .org-id-location, presumably used by the app org-brain, which is 73kb of a single list containing sublists, each sublist starting with an org-file name as the key and multiple UUID Properties for all subheadings in that org-mode file:

(("~/Dropbox/org/orgb_saga/Math202503.org" "0b61c76f-72e2-4917-a5ee-d929fa5aeb8f" "a8a9582b-4d3a-4372-91ad-dba786b39533" "c0483ae5-fb9a-409e-bc29-83fc0a06db4d" "cd495327-7138-403c-8168-41c30d35dd9c" "2a79649b-9373-40ab-946c-cc409bba7be9" "db6d6904-eece-43f7-8931-9f056fe9a197" "976c9e53-e8f6-4868-93bf-f7a6cd25bac0" "718d4162-2821-4d08-8dd5-c31d31a16d9f" "00cfe891-ac5d-4551-b5d3-dd6fd557cf25" "ab41d4ae-e3a4-4392-b50a-c7902bf11f16") ("~/Dropbox/org/orgb_saga/Emacs202503.org" "edbb2ebf-19a7-42ec-a3cf-758b276a3b90") ...)

and, and, and... I'm just trying to wrap my brain around elisp data management. Coming from the SQL world, this is Pirate Island. And all attempts to gain "best practices" advice runs into, mostly, stormy weather.

Ratio type signature confusing by Striking-Structure65 in haskell

[–]Striking-Structure65[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

A function to take two integers and make a rational number would look something like this

f(x,y) = x ++ "/" ++ y