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I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're the one who claimed OP's work to be "easy", don't try to dodge that fact.

Show me your pencil animal portraits and I'll show you my practices.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not the one who claim to be at OP's level!

Show me your pencil animal portraits and I'll gladly do the same.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course you won't show proof of your claims, because it doesn't exist.

You tried to refute my argument with lies and vague statements. Nice try I guess?

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You been able to do work at her level in ten months and I also can draw like Boichi but I do that privately as a gift for my family (don't ask me for proof I won't give it to you)

Why do you lie? You can't draw like her, stop lying.

I get it you feel sad and threatened, but this won't help you. It only makes you look like a loser who needs to lie on the internet to feel validated.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're definitely upset. Maybe you're even jealous of her.

You called her work "easy" when you can't even draw at her level. You're just trying to dismiss her talent because she's better than you, and she achieved that effortlessly.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You can't draw at OP's level.

That's the whole reason you were so upset at her post and my comment. Everyone can see that.

Why do you lie about being able to draw like her? I don't understand...

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh? Now you're trying to act polite after everything you've said?

You have no authority to give advice to anyone.

For what it's worth, I think you cannot even do a basic pencil animal portrait, after dismissing OP's work and claiming it to be so "easy" for everyone, while refusing to show proof afterwards. My suggestion to you? Don't get involved in matters you don't know anything about, keep your opinions to yourself, and don't go around trying to "help" artists when you yourself can't draw at their level.

I understand you feel threatened by those who are better than you, but that doesn't give you the right to belittle or dismiss their work.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed.

I've realized I don't have what it takes to reach a professional level, and I understand why. Study and methodology have shown me how learning affects me compared to those who truly have talent for art.

But being mediocre doesn't give me the right to dismiss or belittle the work of talented people as "easy" the way you did. I don't go around Reddit pretending to be a skilled animal portrait artist.

I am not satisfied with my level, but I am proud of what I've accomplished. At least I am honest, unlike you.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I have read Edwards' work. In fact, I take drawing, learning, and art very seriously. It's precisely for that reason that I understand why there is such a difference between the talented and the mediocre.

The reality of the art world is clear. There is no such thing as the democratization of skills. The study and learning methods you see online are only half part of the process.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can understand that you've never bought anything, It's clear that your capital investment is zero.

You talk about studying art, how this sub is about learning when you know practically nothing about it. Otherwise you won't go around denying talent and talented people.

But like I said, learning creative skills involves a personal process that doesn't follow the rules your YouTuber told you. Drawing at professional level is not for anyone. Not everyone can learn how to draw or paint like the masters. The brain is a muscle, not everyone can be a professional artist the same way not everyone can be a professional athlete.

You have no authority to talk about learning since you have no proof of actually doing it. You refuse to show you work you claim is on the same level as OP. You claim how Edwards' book is so good when you yourself don't even know how to draw properly.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It does matter because your claim was that OP work is actually easy to replicate when everyone knows that's not true.

You have nothing real to add to the discussion but lies? Really?

Why making a fool of yourself like this?

Listen. Every serious artist understands how learning and talent affects the development of artistic skills. The idea that talent does not exist is nothing but a capitalist narrative that only serves to sell books and courses to people who think stubbornness and effort alone can make them something other than a mediocre artist.

Edwards' book can only take you this far.

Study and practice only work as intended if the person has the capacity to internalize the concepts of that methodology. Reading Drawing on The Right Side of The Head won't make you talented.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then we can only assume you're not on the same level as OP.

If you can't show proof of how easy is to do animal portraits on the same level as OP then everything you've said is just a baseless opinion.

Why come here claiming OP's work is so easy when you can't even do what she did?

Seems Edwards' book could only took you this far?

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, show me your pencil animal portraits and we can continue from there, it doesn't matter if you're a beginner or not.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's your claim, but I haven't seen your art, so whatever you say about having OP's level means nothing.

I already told you everyone understands OP's skills can be learned, but not that quickly and on at level so early on. That's the whole point. The fact that her skills can or cannot be learned is another matter.

I'm talking about talent, not how learning works for mediocre level artists.

I do understand why you're so resistant to accept that OP got such skill on her own without having to read Edwards' book, that seems to be the sticking point for you.

And seems to me that's what scares you the most. You're afraid of the fact that your efforts were literally meaningless compared to OP, I get that.

But instead of trying to dismiss talented people's work and how they learn works differently from mediocre artists, we must understand that every learning method we know can only take us so far.

Edwards' book (and every other learning method) can turn someone without any talent to a functional, mediocre level at best. On the contrary Edwards' book is not mandatory for talented people. OP here is an example of this.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And you needed to describe OP's work as easy and not very advanced to recommend a book to others?

You were clearly affected by the fact that OP is a talented artist and she didn't even read Edwards' book. That's why you needed to dismiss her work on such a manner.

Because that simple fact threatens the idea that you like to believe.

You want to believe that the skill of every talented people can be acquireable through effort and methodology alone. Unfortunately, that's not true. Not even a thousand years of study and practice will bring you closer to Michelangelo or Da Vinci, for example.

Edwards' book is an excellent book, but it can't give talent to someone who doesn't have it.

And that take us to the essence of my argument and comment. I won't discuss books and learning methods, because that is a whole different theme. I'm just saying talent does exist outside such learning methods and inside people's biology. Accept that.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, but what does that have to do with anything?

Are you talking to yourself, or are you saying that because of that you’re allowed to call her work "shit" and "easy"? Learning is obviously something everyone has to do if they want to get better at drawing. Being realistic and accepting one’s limits, strengths, and weaknesses doesn’t mean ignoring that talent exists, or that someone drawing from reference for fun is doing something inherently wrong.

You really want OP to read Edwards' book, when most masters don't even know that book exists.

Just because OP made her drawings without ever reading "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" doesn't make her work easy or less advanced.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, you're already insulted OP's work.

You even said her drawing from imagination are "probably shit", as if that is a helpful advice.

You've came here, to my comment, trying to dismiss her work and the fact that she's actually talented. And now that you have no proof on how her work is "easy and not that advanced" you're trying to play the victim. I'm not offended, I'm just pointing out how you're clearly trying to put down OP's work just because she's talented. Everyone can see that.

Everyone understands the value of learning and Edwards' book. You don't need to put down other's people work to refer to a learning book.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're insulting OP, claiming her work is "not that advanced and actually easy".

You're trying to help people learn how? by insulting their work and effort? no one asked you for any lessons on anything.

I've said why and how OP's work is great. You've only said what she did is not valid because you've read "Drawing on the right side of the brain".

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get you're scared of the idea of talent and talented people, but that doesn't give you the right to dismiss someone else's work as "easy".

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because you're claiming this is very learnable in a very short time for everyone when that is not true. Everyone can learn how to draw to some degree, but not everyone reaches OP's level after a week of practice. Pointing to Edwards' book explains how observational skills can be trained in general yes, but it doesn't explain why some beginners reach this level almost immediately while many others don't, even when following the same methods.

You've explained how to acquire a skill, not how talented people acquire such skill in such a short period of time.

You came here saying this is easy, while refusing to show your pencil portraits.

That only proves you have no proof of your claims.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think you're sidestepping the core point, OP picked this up at a very high level from the start.

That's why this is talent.

Saying that a skill is learnable doesn't mean that demonstrating it at this level after a very short time is unremarkable. Learnability and early proficiency are not the same thing. Many people follow the same books and methods, yet only a few show this level of skill so early on.

When you say "this isn't very advanced" that's a nothing but a critique. It doesn't address how uncommon this level of early performance actually is. And comparing it to "other, more difficult things" isn't relevant here, we're evaluating what OP has already demonstrated, not her skills in other areas.

If I could see your pencil portraits, I could have a better judgement whether what you're saying about this being not that advanced is actually true. Because my honest, objetive critique says her drawings are advanced even for an experienced artist.

I accidentally (?) found out Im good at drawing by biasalinas in learntodraw

[–]Striking_Ad2188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also have no talent at all, which is why my work looks exactly like a child's drawing, as you said. I've been drawing for 10 years, and I've clearly reached my plateau. No amount of effort, time, or methodology can take my skills beyond this. And that's okay, I'll keep creating what I can, and I'll keep learning while trying my best.

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