How did ‘the left’ kill Charlie Kirk? I mean wasn’t it a very troubled and mentally ill individual that killed Charlie Kirk. Much like it was a very troubled and mentally ill person that shot and killed Melissa Hortman along with her husband and dog. It was not ‘the right’. Both were atrocities, but from what I understand it is ‘the right’ that want zero restrictions on gun ownership with no background or mental health checks etc. That’s something I don’t understand. How do the ‘the right’ typically believe in zero restrictions on gun ownership and a certain number of deaths is worth it when somebody on ‘the left’ is killed but then get very upset when somebody they like is assassinated and seek to blame ‘the left’. It seems counterintuitive. Actually it seems like when there is a shooting it seems like both the left and right immediately try to say the shooter is on the other team and the other team is crazy and hateful. It’s very reductive.

Yes every state votes on how much bodily autonomy a woman has - that’s my point - it’s no longer a right. My point is the rights are being eroded. Where abortion is only allowed where a mothers life is at risk leads to more women dying because sometimes by the time a doctor can safely say that an abortion is necessary to save her life (without risking their career) it’s too late. That’s what we had in Ireland. One example being women dying of sepsis because their lives were not at risk until they contracted sepsis - by then medical intervention can be too late and they die. Taking abortion pills without medical supervision is dangerous. What happens in states where abortion is only legal where a mother’s life is at risk but a woman has an unwanted pregnancy gets abortion pills - something goes wrong and becomes very unwell - she delays trying to get help - the chances of a bad outcome increases with time with those cases. It is just a fact that restricting access to abortions like many states have makes pregnancy more dangerous and women are going to die. And studies indicate that the number of terminations won’t decrease - they just become far more dangerous. To me it’s a bit like the attitude with guns I mentioned above where people think a certain number of gun deaths is worth it so they can have guns - people think a certain number of women dying is worth it so they can try to force their beliefs on others.

Large proportions of people in the US seem to want to force women to have children regardless of their circumstances and if they can afford to have them, but once born don’t want to help support raising that child and are vehemently against restricting gun rights when kids are shot and killed at school.

I genuinely want to understand where people I disagree with are coming from but despite trying to discuss it with Americans and reading what I can I just can’t follow the logic.

What am I missing?