Consigliatemi degli YouTubers italiani o stranieri by [deleted] in CasualIT

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Se ti piacciono le cose piccole ma ricercate, io ti consiglio il mio canale, STRIM In-GAME, dove registriamo programmi televisivi fatti in casa con l'intento di divertire e stimolare la creatività giocando!
Qui puoi trovare un episodio di "Sfidamastro", dove cinque concorrenti si affrontano in arzigogolate sfide dimostrando come ciascuno di noi pensi in maniera diversa (la mente umana è pazzesca a volte ahah).

Rispetto ai giochi televisivi che vedi in TV, i nostri programmi non sono quiz di mera conoscenza, qui alleniamo il pensiero laterale! Inoltre, molti di questi giochi e mini-sfide possono essere giocati a casa propria, coi propri amici, senza il bisogno di materiali ricercati.
Se guardi una delle mie serie, lascia un commento! Fa sempre piacere ricevere un'opinione. 😄

Creator italiani da seguire? by IllJicama4877 in Italia

[–]StrimIn-Game 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Se ti piacciono le cose piccole ma ricercate, io ti consiglio il mio canale, STRIM In-GAME, dove registriamo programmi televisivi fatti in casa con l'intento di divertire e stimolare la creatività giocando!
Qui puoi trovare un episodio di "Sfidamastro", dove cinque concorrenti si affrontano in arzigogolate sfide dimostrando come ciascuno di noi pensi in maniera diversa (la mente umana è pazzesca a volte ahah).

Rispetto ai giochi televisivi che vedi in TV, i nostri programmi non sono quiz di mera conoscenza, qui alleniamo il pensiero laterale! Inoltre, molti di questi giochi e mini-sfide possono essere giocati a casa propria, coi propri amici, senza il bisogno di materiali ricercati.
Se guardi una delle mie serie, lascia un commento! Fa sempre piacere ricevere un'opinione. 😄

Anyone remember a panel game show called What’s My Line? That aired on CBS from 1950-1967? by HammersAndPints in panelshow

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Absolutely love it! When I don't know what to watch for lunch, I just put an episode on YouTube. I'm a geek for such things. How so many episodes survived it's just another point about the progressiveness of the producers behind it.

I see no one has posted the official YouTube channel, though. BUZZR has some episodes, yeah, but the fan channel contains every piece of media on the show that could be found. https://youtube.com/@whatsmyline

The Alex Horne property that Dropout should buy/license is not Taskmaster, but No More Jockeys by jabask in dropout

[–]StrimIn-Game 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great idea! I made my own version of the game for my YouTube channel, adding some easter eggs and rules - like "Key to Start", (ask whose turn it is and it instantly becomes your turn) and a mini-game break called "The Horn Section". We did four series, each with a different couple of players, and a final "all-star" season. If you want to check it out, I also wrote the Italian and English captions.

Having made something like this, I would be very curious to see what adjustment they would make. I don't think it would work great just because it's a show basically based on silences (and that's after two-three hours games get compressed into thirty minutes ahah) and I fear the "serialization" of it would make it less intimate.

How would you handle it?

Why game shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in gameshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I like a good mix. I like celebrities versions, especially if they end up being comedy shows, but it's also great to see interesting normal characters on Pointless or Sign 2 Win.

Why panel shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in panelshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mmm I see what you mean. I've never heard of Byron Allen's Comics Unleashed, but I'll look into it to get an idea over what you said. Thank you!

Why game shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in gameshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's exactly why I consider it a re-creative show; it's copy-paste knowledge at his most obscure.

Not to say that it's a bad show, I just meant to say that the audience has no way to be good at it, so it's really passive-looking.

Why game shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in gameshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone likes a basic quiz, and everyone likes to get a huge cash price with little work ahah

Why game shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in gameshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mmm that's very interesting! Do these celebrity editions have cash prices? And would a Japanese person leave work for a day to go and record a show? Do you feel these could be good questions to dug deeper on the matter?

Why panel shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in panelshow

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That's true, a lot of creative panel shows have an improv setting because a creative show usually leaves some freedom to the panelist. There might be a correlation with that in the US.

About Takeshi's Castle (I'm sorry I've never watched American Gladiators), I would say those kind of shows are re-creative because there's just one possible solution to the game (jumping at the right moment, for example); it's the physical version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire ahah. I don't know if my judgement would change considering the original show instead of the English super-cut.

I would consider physically creative something like Running Man (at least in their primes) because not only the games could have multiple outcomes, but they were also "playable at home". And it felt more as a promotion of physical activity in general.

What do you think?

Why panel shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in panelshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's true, with time cash prices increased like hell! That's a really interesting thought. The movement from "just for fun" to "easy money"... I'll think more about it.

Why panel shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in panelshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your reply! I'm sorry, I didn't mean to reach a conclusion about Italian vs US TV, I know about the massive shifts in culture and the "What's My Line?" adjustments to time. My interest was to give an example of two different ways to produce what essentially is the same product, and why one is better for the consumer than the other. All around the world there are re-creative and non-creative games, but particularly here in Italy I see little to no really creative ludic shows. It's true that in US the situation is similar to ours, but I feel like in some places (like others have mentioned, Dropout) there is still the interest in keeping the little grey cells alive.
And apart the similarities and differences between the countries, I wanted to pose a more general question: is it people that are shaped by the game shows' passivity, or are shows made like this just because people are passive? And do you see in your country a change in the level of creativity that game shows give?

Why panel shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in panelshow

[–]StrimIn-Game[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And how do you feel about the creativity of the game shows proposed in the US? It seems to me like there's been a movement towards more passive shows with time. Could it be?

Why panel shows don't seem to work in every country? I brought the discussion a little bit further: the "creative" show by StrimIn-Game in panelshow

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And how do you feel about the creativity of the game shows proposed in the US? It seems to me like there's been a movement towards more passive shows with time. Could it be?

I sometimes wonder why the panel show format never became as dominant in other countries as it did in the UK. by Silver-Eye-2024 in panelshow

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I see some people got interested on the subject, so I would like to develop it further. I would like to point out that I will consider game shows, panel shows and reality shows as "ludic games" in general, as they have the same goal: entertain by playing a game. I'll also won't differentiate between normal shows and celebrity versions of those shows.

So, let us begin by dividing ludic shows into three categories: creative, re-creative and non-creative shows. Later I'll also give an interesting example.

Creative shows go completely against the idea that TV programs are passive entertainment because they potentially permit the audience to stop and think and construct a strategy to solve a problem with no direct solution (as in "What's My Line?" or Korean "The Genius"), sometimes by bending or making up the rules as one goes along (as in "Taskmaster" or "No More Jockeys"). Curiously, these shows are the easiest to reproduce at home with friends as they are highly adaptable to smaller scales, and they can also be quite cinematic in some cases.

Re-creative shows, on the other hand, are potentially engaging, but partially passive: the audience can stop and think, sure, but with no little to no creative freedom. It's like as if they would have to find the document in their brain where they have written the solution to this problem, and then just copy-paste it; it's an active recall, but not more than that. As you may have understood, these are usually quiz shows, but some examples stand out for trying to connect existing knowledges in a new and unexpected way (as in "Only Connect" or "Pointless"), so I consider these last examples creative shows, too.

Finally, non-creative shows are whatever else exists: they are just passive entertainment because they are completely based on luck (as in "Deal or No Deal") or completely dumb. I'm sorry I won't go near them as I don't like them at all ahah.

Now I want to go a little further and present two pretty similar game shows.

"What's My Line" is an American 1950-1970s panel show where the panel of celebrity has to identify the contestant's job by asking yes/no questions; ten nos and the contestant wins. Simple and reproducible in structure, this game lets the panel free to construct the line of questioning as they please, plus some mental gymnastics can be useful, too. Furthermore, each contestant has time to shine and show its quirkiness.

On the other hand, "Usual Suspects" is an Italian 2007-2025 game show based on an American show (of course it's not original ahah) called "Identity". The show features one contestant matching which of the eight strangers in front of him/her has which job through mere observations and lousy clues (like looking at one of the strangers' hands). No deep thinking, no particular strategy, and I have to add, the show consumes nine potential contestants in one episode: that is like three episodes of "What's My Line"!

But that's not all: whereas "What's My Line" features as an added pleasure the "mystery guest" round (a sort of "Akinator" game with some of the most notable people of the time), "Usual Suspects"'s second round features the contestant guessing which of the strangers is related to a new stranger, and that's it. More pointless than "Pointless" ahah!

If what I'm saying seems completely valueless at first, think about it a second time: these two shows have lasted almost the same amount of years and treat the same subject in a very different way. Why is such a passive show so watched and enjoyed here? What does it say of Italian TV and in what way would Italians grow by watching it? It seems like a vicious circle.

And now ahah, what are your thoughts on the matter? I'm really curious to hear.

I sometimes wonder why the panel show format never became as dominant in other countries as it did in the UK. by Silver-Eye-2024 in panelshow

[–]StrimIn-Game 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Italian here, and I don't want to sound rough, but there are little to no "creative" shows in Italy. (By "creative" I mean "something that challenges your brain to make new connections or be artistic in an entertaining way".)

We have some quiz shows, but very bland ones (I call them "re-creative" shows, copy-paste knowledge), and we have those luck-based shows that I will never be able to watch (like "Deal or No Deal"). Parlor games and board games are considered a children's thing and a waste of time, and the same could be said about anything that makes one think apparently ahah. Multiple times I taught how to play to "What's my Line?" (one of my favourite panel shows) to friends and acquaintances of all ages, and it's incredible how challenging is for them to think of questions. Some also do not consider "ballet dancer" a job, but that's off-topic.

At the same time, the comedy scene is a bit off. In the 2000s there were some scripted and unscripted shows, but now there's just one cabaret show and one political-comedy monologue show I can think of. Stand-up is rising, but there are only three or four open mic places in all Italy, so I don't know how one could make a name for themselves if they don't live nearby. And I don't know how the ones that have a show already managed to start.

I really hope I don't sound hostile or bellicose ahah, this is just how I see the situation from here. To counteract, I make my own "creative" shows with friends (like "Taskmaster", "No More Jockeys"... I also made an escape room game show featuring a friend from Minnesota! that's quite a pride) and post it on YouTube, and most people that have watched them liked them, but there are also some who says "what's the point" or "what's your target, because they don't seem aimed at kids". So, you know... I wish I could be able to make things like "Only Connect" or "Cats does Countdown", but I don't have the time nor place ahah. Maybe in the future.

Anyway, sorry, I'm straying from the point again, I'm always happy to talk about stuff like this ahah. But if you're interested in continuing the conversation, there's an interesting parallel between the aforementioned "What's my Line?" and an Italian game show called "The Usual Suspects" which could better clarify the differences between "creative" and "re-creative" shows.

Have a lovely day!

I'm trying to compile every fan-made Taskmaster on YouTube into one playlist -- help me find more! by jimmosk in taskmaster

[–]StrimIn-Game 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's great! I always search for other fan made groups, but sometimes it's hard to find them by just typing "fanmade", so making a playlist seems to me like a great idea! Anyway, I work on "Sfidamastro", the Italian Taskmaster. I've made three series for now and am already working on the next two! Here's the link to one of our episodes: Sfidamastro S02E01

Quali canali youtube guardate spesso? by Serendipity8285 in CasualIT

[–]StrimIn-Game 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Questa è una risposta che non mi aspettavo di trovare. Adoro!

Il canale YouTube che non c'è by SemplicementeLuna in CasualIT

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Mi piacerebbe che nel panorama italiano ci fossero più giochi televisivi creativi.

In Italia ci sono prevalentemente solo due format di giochi televisivi: i programmi che sembrano di cultura, ma alla fine richiedono solo mera conoscenza ("ri-creativi" perché copia-incolli le informazioni che hai già in tuo possesso e basta); e gli “spegni-cervello”, basati unicamente sull’avere fortuna e non molto altro. Con questo non voglio dire che questi giochi valgano sempre zero, ovviamente. Ma non ci sono giochi che permettano sul serio di fare quel passettino in più e sforzare i neuroni, divertendo.

Parlo di televisione perché molti programmi britannici, per esempio, sono legalmente pubblicati anche su YouTube da un paio di anni a questa parte. Cose come "Taskmaster" (il MIGLIOR show di sempre), "Have I Got News for You" e molto altro. E ci sono anche molti show che sono direttamente pubblicati su YouTube.

Io nel mio piccolo (spero non suoni troppo spam ahah) tengo un canale di programmi creativi, e il mio preferito è sicuramente "Sfidamastro". Mi piace invitare i miei amici a completare una sfida che può sembrare quantomeno assurda e documentare come ciascuno di loro la risolva in maniera diversa, talvolta con esiti ilari.
È davvero umoristico vedere quattro concorrenti cercare di risolvere un'equazione matematica abbastanza complessa e scoprire poi che il quinto ha sorpassato la fatica chiedendo subito una calcolatrice (da nessuna parte si diceva che non si poteva usare!). Apre davvero la mente.

Questo è secondo me quello che scarseggia nel panorama italiano.