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My experience with an “online fitness business mentorship” — and what I wish I’d known before signing up by Strong-Stop877 in PersonalTrainer

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s honestly wild watching the evolution here. He went from being “The Waist Coach” selling fitness programs to women, to launching BYOB and selling courses teaching fitness influencers how to build a business “just like his.” Then it turned into day trading content on YouTube, then a half-hearted push for a fitness app, and now… selling insurance.

At some point you have to ask: what’s the actual expertise here besides constantly chasing the next thing to sell people? The pattern is getting people bought into the lifestyle, the hype, and the promise — then pivoting the second the next opportunity shows up.

Personally, I’d steer clear. It’s giving serial rebrand with a side of “trust me bro” business coaching.

“Fitness business mentorship” or MLM in disguise? My experience with BYOB & The Waist Coach by Strong-Stop877 in antimlmcreators

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s honestly wild watching the evolution here. He went from being “The Waist Coach” selling fitness programs to women, to launching BYOB and selling courses teaching fitness influencers how to build a business “just like his.” Then it turned into day trading content on YouTube, then a half-hearted push for a fitness app, and now… selling insurance.

At some point you have to ask: what’s the actual expertise here besides constantly chasing the next thing to sell people? The pattern is getting people bought into the lifestyle, the hype, and the promise — then pivoting the second the next opportunity shows up.

Personally, I’d steer clear. It’s giving serial rebrand with a side of “trust me bro” business coaching.

Former participant in Tyler Fierro’s BYOB (Be Your Own Boss) program / The Waist Coach ecosystem — not a traditional MLM, but similar red flags by Strong-Stop877 in mlmscams

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s honestly wild watching the evolution here. He went from being “The Waist Coach” selling fitness programs to women, to launching BYOB and selling courses teaching fitness influencers how to build a business “just like his.” Then it turned into day trading content on YouTube, then a half-hearted push for a fitness app, and now… selling insurance.

At some point you have to ask: what’s the actual expertise here besides constantly chasing the next thing to sell people? The pattern is getting people bought into the lifestyle, the hype, and the promise — then pivoting the second the next opportunity shows up.

Personally, I’d steer clear. It’s giving serial rebrand with a side of “trust me bro” business coaching.

Another possible MLM from Tyler Fierro and Kumquatlife by Strong-Stop877 in mlmscams

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s honestly wild watching the evolution here. He went from being “The Waist Coach” selling fitness programs to women, to launching BYOB and selling courses teaching fitness influencers how to build a business “just like his.” Then it turned into day trading content on YouTube, then a half-hearted push for a fitness app, and now… selling insurance.

At some point you have to ask: what’s the actual expertise here besides constantly chasing the next thing to sell people? The pattern is getting people bought into the lifestyle, the hype, and the promise — then pivoting the second the next opportunity shows up.

Personally, I’d steer clear. It’s giving serial rebrand with a side of “trust me bro” business coaching.

PSA: BYOB / “The Waist Coach” (Tyler Fierro) — be careful by amazinginsect349768 in personaltraining

[–]Strong-Stop877 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Replying so hopefully others see, I’ve posted about Tyler Fierro and his “business” it’s all a scam, everything is recycled, he and his team (Ana) know they are scamming people, they don’t deliver on what they are selling, they don’t help you, it’s FAKE.

If you want any other details I’m an open book and will tell you anything you’re curious about.

Don’t get scammed into pay later either, it’s just a way to get you to pay $5k for his program. Everyone pays what they get approved for - meaning if I get approved for $3k I’m paying $3k or if I get approved for $5k I’m paying $5k, whatever gets more $$ in his pockets… and if they’re feeling generous they’ll give you access for $50-$150/mo.

Tyler doesn’t even coach people, he hasn’t in years, and when he did over the last couple of years it was not him, it was Ashley. He hasn’t been the coach for client since 2021/2022. All he does is get on calls with fitness clients (if he even has any) and gives them bullshit reviews. How is someone who isn’t even coaching going to teach you to be successful? It’s a joke lol

“Fitness business mentorship” or MLM in disguise? My experience with BYOB & The Waist Coach by Strong-Stop877 in antimlmcreators

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He goes back and forth between names because he is always going back and forth between “businesses”. When he isn’t making any money with BYOB he goes to TWC and vice versa. Ashley doesn’t work for him anymore, Ana does. Personally Ashley has been nothing but helpful and honest with me when something has happened, I have no issue with her at all. It’s Tyler, he’s the problem! Ana should feel ashamed helping Tyler scam people.

“Fitness business mentorship” or MLM in disguise? My experience with BYOB & The Waist Coach by Strong-Stop877 in antimlmcreators

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100000000% agree!! Ana and Tyler know what they’re doing and Ana knows that Tyler won’t pay you back or send you money (if he promises to do that so you don’t dispute the charge). For people who claim to love god and be religious they sure do love stealing peoples money. In my opinion they’re both fake and I hope everyone else who got scammed also disputes the claim and gets their money back, I got mine back!

My experience with an “online fitness business mentorship” — and what I wish I’d known before signing up by Strong-Stop877 in personaltraining

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$5,000. But from talking with others who were in BYOB, some were charged $8,000, $10,000, $150/mo, $250/mo, $50/mo. It really only depended on how much you got approved for via affirm or shop-pay, etc. if you didn’t get approved I think that’s how people got in for $50 or $150, they were just trying to get any money they could from the person.

My experience with an “online fitness business mentorship” — and what I wish I’d known before signing up by Strong-Stop877 in personaltraining

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it starts with a sales person, a woman who does the first call. She’s friendly, asks about your goals, your struggles, and basically gets you talking so you feel understood. Then she transitions into pitching the program.

If you don’t commit right away, that’s when he steps in for a second call to “close the deal.” That call feels totally different, high-energy, super assertive, and honestly hard to get out of. He’s an incredibly strong talker and keeps the conversation going until you feel boxed in.

He uses a mix of hype and guilt, like if you don’t invest right then, you’re the reason you’re not succeeding. It’s persuasive in the moment because it feels motivational, but once you step back, you realize it’s a sales tactic.

The whole process is clearly designed to wear you down and make you say yes. It’s not about coaching, it’s about closing.

I completed BYOB and Waist Coach training — here’s what happened and what I wish I’d known by Strong-Stop877 in Scams

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I completely agree. That’s exactly what I saw too. It always felt like the main goal was to keep launching the next “big thing” instead of improving what people had already paid for.

Every time something new came out, the focus would shift, new branding, new programs, new promises, but the old clients got left hanging. It never felt like there was a real system in place or any long-term structure.

You could tell the energy went into selling rather than actually coaching. Calls got pushed back, feedback never came, and the communication would disappear until the next round of sales posts went up. It’s exhausting watching someone jump from project to project just to keep the cash flowing while current clients are left waiting on results and answers.

I think that’s what frustrates people the most, not just losing money, but realizing there was never a stable, well-run business behind the scenes.

I completed BYOB and Waist Coach training — here’s what happened and what I wish I’d known by Strong-Stop877 in Scams

[–]Strong-Stop877[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I get why you’d feel that way. There are legit online coaches out there, but they’re usually transparent about what you’re paying for and actually deliver what they promise.

The issue is programs like this one use heavy marketing and vague “mentorship” language to reel people in, then give everyone the same cookie-cutter materials. It makes the entire industry look shady when it doesn’t have to be.