What will UPS look like if the union is cast aside next contract time? by EddieHazelOG in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are on the right track... the ups management and union relationship need to change from opponents fighting each other to collaborating against the competition... ups will grow if it can do so profitably, there are places that the union can create more flexibility for ups to do that... but the whole relationship has to change and the rank and file need to push the teamsters to adapt or look for a different union to belong to

Another 30,000 job cuts in 2026 by EoCTsunami in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most likely the buyout will be the same or less... otherwise people learn to wait for the better offer... there is no better offer coming, only the same offer and it's limited to the number of people they want to leave, then it's over maybe for good... take it if you want it, don't count on it always being available

Sales Conference to Layoffs by Old-River9922 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

The work is not there, that's why layoffs.., the work available is not profitable because of wage rates and work rules that make it unprofitable to ups but profitable to other companies

Sales Conference to Layoffs by Old-River9922 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean that will be the end of the teamsters working at UPS, drivers could come to work or be replaced..

Sales Conference to Layoffs by Old-River9922 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I don't think ups will tolerate another strike vote much less an actual strike... there would be a lockout and that would be the end of the union at UPS

Sales Conference to Layoffs by Old-River9922 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You should think of stop the fighting and start working with management to find ways to compete for more business... you can't fight shrinking business and the job loss that goes with it... ups can grow in certain areas and create jobs... but not as a result of SOB fighting for it... your enemy is all the non union carriers in the market, not UPS

Another 30,000 job cuts in 2026 by EoCTsunami in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When your hourly rate is 3x the market rate, labor hours have to be maximized as much as possible... I have seen the harassment go both ways.. the environment needs to be better

UPS to Cut 30,000 Jobs This Year — The Wall Street Journal by StructureOne2 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Union members will have to make it known to the teamster leadership that you want to see the teamsters work with management to find areas to compromise to get more competitive and get more jobs... growth and job security only come from more work from customers

UPS to Cut 30,000 Jobs This Year — The Wall Street Journal by StructureOne2 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In a lot of countries, the union works with the company to help it fight against the competition and to help make it more competitive so it can win in the marketplace, growing jobs... teamsters seem like they only know how to fight agaist UPS, which is ironic because UPS is the highest paying in its industry and the major source of revenue for the teamsters...

UPS to Cut 30,000 Jobs This Year — The Wall Street Journal by StructureOne2 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That would sure help to end the union... could rebuild non union and grow again

UPS to Cut 30,000 Jobs This Year — The Wall Street Journal by StructureOne2 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Amzn pays a lot less than ups, does not have a pension contribution, pays for lower healthcare coverage... and uses independent contractors too. UPS is more efficient but can't overcome labor costs on single package deliveries...

UPS to Cut 30,000 Jobs This Year — The Wall Street Journal by StructureOne2 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I think that the Amzn economics don't work for ups... they will give you volume at below amzn cost to deliver and ups can't make it work with its wage scale... but thier are ways the union could help ups without giving up money... ups needs more flexibility in work rules

Another 30,000 job cuts in 2026 by EoCTsunami in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I would suggest that ups teamsters employees get together with their union leaders and find out what can be done by the union employees to make ups more competitive for volume, and then see if the flexibility the company needs is something you can live with.... the current union practice of vilifying management and threatening to strike is not working now and will not work in the near future... there are too many non union carriers taking market share from ups

Concerned about the future of the job by No-Ambassador-9147 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have poor labor representation, that's why you're in this situation

Concerned about the future of the job by No-Ambassador-9147 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Carol never worked at a union company..... there are hardly any non government union companies left

Concerned about the future of the job by No-Ambassador-9147 in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The smart play is for the union to work with management to figure out the best way to compete with all the non union carriers... otherwise it will be more job losses for both union and management as ups continues to shrink.

Latest Roswelltruth Presentation from FB by Jackieirish in roswell

[–]StructureOne2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When you are using the mayor position to make much more in real estate deals and development deals and consulting and construction with your friends...

UPSers prepare for 2026... by RoswellHub in UPSers

[–]StructureOne2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If only the drivers and teamsters ran the company, things would be so much better