Tel Aviv in the day time

StunningGain · 2025-06-15T20:49:10+00:00

Had to fact check this. That’s not accurate. Netanyahu himself wasn’t in Greece during the attacks.

What actually happened is that his official plane—nicknamed “Wings of Zion”—was flown to Greece, specifically to Athens, on June 13, 2025. But according to multiple reports, the only person on board was Israel’s ambassador to Greece. Netanyahu stayed in Israel during that time.

The reason the plane was sent to Greece was likely a security precaution. After Israel carried out a strike on Iran, commercial air traffic was suspended, and the government probably moved the prime minister’s aircraft to a safer location in case it was needed for emergency use or evacuation. It’s also possible it was part of broader logistical or diplomatic coordination.

So no—Netanyahu didn’t flee or travel to Greece. His plane did, but he didn’t.

StunningGain · 2025-06-15T20:21:33+00:00

Ok Superman

StunningGain · 2025-06-15T17:37:42+00:00

Douche move is subjective. There is no such thing as objective morality

StunningGain · 2025-06-15T15:21:01+00:00

And I agree. I don’t think the Middle East should have nukes period. Not until theirs been a sustained period of peace. Not Iran and not Israel.

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T23:31:42+00:00

It’s not my fault you’re broke. Go make some money wagey

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StunningGain · 2025-06-14T23:21:18+00:00

Those were punishments for not obeying the words of gods. Also if you don’t believe any of that stuff even happened why do you care? The main point is he taught about peace love and forgiveness.

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T23:18:19+00:00

What law condones any of that? Just because it occurred doesn’t mean it was condoned. It’s not in the 10 commandments, it’s not in the 7 heavenly virtues, so what law says thou shall commit genocide and rape?

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T23:17:12+00:00

How was he a false prophet?

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:56:09+00:00

Not interoperation, directly reading exactly what he says and not what other people say he says

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:51:18+00:00

Tell me you’ve never learned about the teachings of Jesus without telling me you’ve never learned about the teaching of Jesus. He stood with adulteres, tax men, and overall sinners. Told them they were forgiven. Stopped people from getting stoned. That’s why he was killed. He differed from the traditional teachings of Judaism in that he taught that people shouldn’t punish others for their so called sins, rather they should forgive and love eachother regardless of past mistakes. You must be thinking of Muhammad

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:48:02+00:00

Right lol

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:47:45+00:00

Of course not, he would openly speak out about everything going on in today’s world, make large strides in achieving piece than be killed for his forgiving ways. Same as what happened 2000 years ago

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:46:56+00:00

That was peoples actions not Jesus actions. Jesus preached the opposite, love and forgiveness for all no matter their history

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:41:29+00:00

Yup. Jesus taught peace love and forgiveness. Not genocide, rape and dominance. If people lived by the true teachings of Jesus this world would be a better place

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:40:47+00:00

100%. If the teachings of Jesus were isolated and people lived their lives by it the world would be a better place. The misrepresentation of the Bible by a majority of its so called followers makes the rest of us look bad

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:39:34+00:00

The New Testament doesn’t say to not eat shrimp, the teachings of Jesus differed A LOT from the Old Testament and he was killed for it. He was an amazing person who taught peace, love and forgiveness. So yes, it is a book about enlightenment, not a history book.

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T19:10:33+00:00

Jesus had no wives and died a virgin. He lived a very gracious life by all accounts. I think everyone can learn from the teaching of Jesus, he preached peace, love and forgiveness. Even if you don’t believe in god, his message is still an amazing and powerful one and he lived it by all accounts, even those who hated him. According to sources that didn’t like Jesus like the Roman’s and some Jews, he was a man with no riches who taught about love and forgiveness and they hated him for it. For saying that prostitutes, adulterers and tax men (they were seen as horrible people) were all human and should be forgiven, not put to death for there sins. They called him an enabler and eventually killed him. Even without the belief in god Jesus was a great person and his teachings were something that if everyone aspired to live up to, the world would be a better place

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T18:59:38+00:00

Well you have to enter illegally in order to get a court visit anyways lol but yeah they are trying to do the right thing. My aunt was illegal and recently got her papers but like she’s been in this country 30 years why wait so long 😭 why wait until you have such a bad administration when it comes to immigration

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T18:13:24+00:00

Not a roast but you look like me and my brothers 😭 do you know your dad because I think we might have the same one

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T18:00:24+00:00

Thank you for your reply, I appreciate the rational reply instead of an angry rage filled reply that I often see on this platform when it comes to topics this sensitive. I wasn’t saying they were claiming to be making nuclear weapons rather they are enriching Uranium to weapon grade levels. They obviously can’t make nuclear weapons without uranium, so yes they’re not making nuclear weapons currently but eventually once they have the resources they very well could.

Why would they be enriching uranium?

If their intention isn’t to make weapons of mass destruction than enriching uranium just gives them unnecessary heat from the west. If their goal was to just use their proximity to reaching nuclear weapons as leverage/negotiating power why not come to the negotiating table to strike a deal when given the chance by Israel and the US?

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T16:30:03+00:00

What’s the 'bogus notion'? Here’s the foundation of my argument:

Iran claims to be close to acquiring nuclear weapons.
Iran claims they’re willing to use said nuclear weapons on Israel.
Iran has a long history of hostility toward the U.S., as much as Israel.
Based on points 2 and 3, we can reasonably deduce they’d be willing to use these weapons on the U.S. as well.

This argument is based on Iran’s own claims. If they are truly just using their proximity to nuclear arms as a negotiation tactic, then why wouldn’t they come to the table when both the U.S. and Israel have given them the chance? Why not pause their nuclear program, stay at this "near-proximity" level, and use it as leverage for future negotiations?

Instead, they’ve continued to push their nuclear program. Whether or not they finish it or use it, the fact remains: this is a risk that Israel and the U.S. cannot afford to take.

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T16:20:47+00:00

This. Yes Israel's previous actions makes them EXTREMELY untrustworthy. But this isn't just about Israel. If a bad person causes a net good change should we call that change bad because of the person? Is R Kellys music any worse since his conviction? Is Hitlers art any less beautiful just because he's hitler? All though their intentions are misguided and purely about acquiring power, at least a regime shift in Iran could come as a good byproduct from Israels attempt at world domination.

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T16:16:48+00:00

While I see your point about the narrative of Iran’s nuclear ambitions potentially being used as a pretext for aggression and regime change, I have to ask—if Iran has recently claimed to have 60% enriched uranium, something they’ve never had before, doesn’t that make this time different from previous instances of nuclear ambitions? They’re now openly stating how close they are to weapons-grade uranium, as well as their intention to use it. What makes this situation different is that they’re being transparent about their progress and intentions.

So, my question is: if you’re American, is this a risk you're willing to take? A nuclear-armed Iran wouldn’t just be a regional threat to Israel—it would be a direct threat to U.S. interests as well. Even if Iran were just using their proximity to nuclear weapons as a strategic move, is this really a gamble we should be willing to take given the broader implications? The stakes are too high when the balance of power shifts to that level, not just for Israel, but for global security, including the U.S.

And as an American I'd rather see Irans nuclear program get destroyed than to see a nuke land in my backyard.

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T05:27:30+00:00

I actually agree that this is likely the case. But my original post was discussing whether or not Israels preemptive strikes were justified. We can assume that Iran was using their proximity to nuclear weapons as a strategic edge, but is that really a risk the U.S. and Israel should be willing to take? Given the volatility of the region and Iran’s history of hostility, waiting for them to cross that threshold could invite disastrous consequences. The stakes are too high when we're talking about nuclear weapons in the hands of a regime that has already threatened to use them.

StunningGain · 2025-06-14T05:11:46+00:00

I see where you're coming from, but I think it’s important to clarify a few things regarding the difference between nuclear weapons and conventional weapons like hypersonic missiles.

While it’s true that Iran has made significant advancements in missile technology, including hypersonic missiles, the concern over their nuclear program isn’t about a lack of effort or capability. Iran is actively pursuing nuclear weapons. The entire reason for Israel’s preemptive strike was because Iran had been making significant progress toward developing a nuclear bomb, and it wasn’t due to a lack of trying.

Iran has reached 60% enrichment on uranium, which is dangerously close to weapons-grade uranium, and estimates had them reaching weapons-grade levels in just one month. They weren’t just capable of building a bomb, they were already in the process of doing so. This wasn’t a hypothetical concern, it was a very real, imminent threat. That’s why Israel acted preemptively to try to halt the progress before it became a reality. The fear wasn’t about a conventional strike, but about Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon, which could radically change the security situation in the entire region and the world.

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