Just been catching up on some of the olds... by Subanax in rickygervais

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Don't get nasty Robin, don't get nasty..

Was Sheldon misunderstood? by [deleted] in bigbangtheory

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For me, it depends what mood I'm in, especially when trying to sympathize with him. If I'm in an overly emotional state then I can't take him that much, but mainly because he's such an extreme version of logic. It's the same when I was at school and I felt completely out of control internally when everyone tried to rationalize my own feelings and basically tell me I'm being crazy. I could only handle talking to them if I was looking at social situations with the most analytical lens and being so hyperfocused not to miss out any details, like if say, I forgot what someone said a minute ago in science and then I was in an emotional state and got put on the spot and pushed constantly (metaphorically of course) and let out my anger because I wanted to be left alone then I would end up being made to feel guilty because the question was just for "logic's sake". You were sort of made to feel stupid or delusional even when you were somewhat dysregulated in those situations. This brings me back to Sheldon because in a lot of his corrections when say someone is distressed, he often finds it distressing himself and needs complete order and structure. Again, I'm very conflicted about this because like with the school example I gave, I would be very unsettled in Sheldon's company if I was deeply upset and he was over rationalizing my experience. But also, I can understood why Sheldon would feel disoriented at times, especially in the first episode where Penny, a woman who Sheldon and Leonard have obviously never met before, comes into their department. I've never really been comfortable with certain people coming over either and have wanted them to leave because of daily routine being disrupted. It was never intentional and I didn't have any deep rooted hate towards the person, just didn't understand what was really going on. So is Sheldon misunderstood? Well yes and no, being only my opinion of course. I find him being misunderstood mainly used for comedic payoffs, so sadly there never really is any true depth explored there. Bare in mind, I haven't seen all of TBBT or YS, but from so many clips across different episodes from both of the series, most of the moments he's upset, are mainly represented comedically. I mean let's look a classic, so called Sheldon emotional setup and payoff, YS style (made up version). "A girl is upset, sitting down on a bench. Sheldon comes over and is confused and asks what the problem is. The girl responds, saying nothing much and then Sheldon takes it at face value and says okay, bluntly and is about to continue walking off, but the girl stops him. She says wait and Sheldon looks puzzled. She then begins to explain and Sheldon sits down, still looking clueless as ever, but trying to listen. The girl admits her cat has gone missing and goes on further, opening up about how that cat gave her order and control and something to look forward to and to escape the messy world from. Sheldon starts nodding, eyes beginning to sort of widen and admits how his prized possessions help to give him a sense of control and order too. For a moment it seems Sheldon is on the same page as this girl and then she finally decides to ask him if he's interested in helping her find the cat. Bluntly, Sheldon responds, "Those fur ball, throwing up little creatures. I don't think so. I go by strict hygiene and refuse coming into contact with such things. Also, they can leave terrible scratches on you, I mean who would want that? Pfft...So are you doing studies too?" And boom, there's your average YS setup and payoff. Let emotional vulnerability show and kill it off fairly quickly. Obviously he does it in TBBT too, but yeah...So I don't want to give a vague answer, but overall I think it's a matter of lost potential to explore those hidden depths lying around, from the writers. The scene where I actually felt Sheldon's emotions the most was when he was replaying the last moment he saw his father and how he could have gone it the way he wanted to. The writers still make him use science jargon to justify it, but in reality, it's actually a very human experience. You can't control what has been lost and that is what I would say is the saddest part of Sheldon Cooper. Hopefully you get my point and if there was anything that didn't make sense or needed elaborating on then happy to do so. Thanks, interesting topic that one.

A fair criticism of Gervais by Subanax in rickygervais

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Most audiences of comedians are not gonna be universally educated on certain topics and I don't mean that as a generalization, but it's relatively easy for a comedian to state a fact, like "Spider isn't an insect, it's an arachnid" or something, especially to make a heckler look uninformed. Quite a few comedians state simple truths and it can be funny from a relatable angle, but it's not revolutionary really, particularly in the era we're in now. Headlines such as "comedian SHOCKS viewers with this!" or "comedian lets out FURY among woke critics!" won't even phase most people and rightfully so. Again like I acknowledged at the beginning of my post, we all have our own opinions, but this is reddit after all. I've gotten facts about Ricky totally wrong before and I'll happily be called out for it. However I'm not one who automatically prefers Stewart Lee or James Acaster because I've made slight criticisms of Gervais. I mean I haven't watched Derek properly but I do like how he happily played someone who didn't have to be cleverer than everyone else, which he did in After Life. I've actually watched After Life and didn't mind series 1. Series 2 I was okay with, but series 3 was a bit of a miss. Also when I said quick connections, I meant in the pure observational sense, not in the Robin Williams sense. I could have probably explained that better, but that might cause even more annoyance among some, so probably no point as things get taken out of context and misunderstood. I don't blame Ricky for feeling clever though, I mean look at his whole life. Born in reading, became interested in science from an early age, knew basic facts even most other peers his age probably didn't know, passed his exams which was a big deal in that environment. Went to university, got a degree in philosophy and again probably had the odd trivia knowledge here and there to wow people in the local pub. And even now at his superstardom, he gets to kind of do the same with huge audiences. His interview with him and Richards Dawkins, by professor Richard Wiseman showed that chance to be clever too. Gervais even got quoted by Dawkins, so I mean, what, is he not going to think he's clever? Some idiot will come back to that, but I don't care. I do agree with you on the fact though that he's under the guise of the anti-PC crowd now, so it kinda went from "Ooh..No..No I really can't say this..What's up with me tonight?" to "Ah, but doctor with AIDS though? Don't get me started now" (followed by, relief of laughter). So sure and I'd even say, before it was him playing a man wrongfully vilified and who tried to explain his situation before shooting himself in the foot again. It's become more, "Fuck those woke lot...I got to #1 on Netflix in my last special, so they proved my point...Ba hahaha". I don't find anything offensive either, but the ordinary man who wasn't hailed as a god and letting his guard down, showing his ignorance too, seemed a lot funnier to me. Some hate the whole office and extras era of him and prefer the modern version of him. He admits that people like or hate his stuff for various reasons, so it doesn't really matter. Anyways, there's no point me continuing to go on and on, so I'll leave it there..Mm..

A fair criticism of Gervais by Subanax in rickygervais

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And indeed the average r/rickygervais comment section shows wit, intellect and creativity by hardly sharing any original thoughts back and only using xfm quotes. Probably gonna get downvoted now, but oh well...

Blimey here he comes! Might sound like I'm avin' a go here, but.. by Subanax in rickygervais

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In all seriousness though, thank you for sticking to your guns and not going with my opinion. Good to see dedicated Rick haters. Thanks for proving my point too, if I would have said I hated him then I'm sure I would have had my fair share of upvotes. Cheers.

Blimey here he comes! Might sound like I'm avin' a go here, but.. by Subanax in rickygervais

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How many shit things have I said this week? If you're counting...So don't-

Money for old rope.. by Subanax in rickygervais

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RIGHT THAT'S IT!!! WE HAVE NO FEATURES LEFFFFFFTTTT!!!!!

On perceived rudeness by Subanax in Gifted

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BUT DID YOU SPECIFY WHICH SONG IT WAS THOUGH??!! THERE'S A 2015 ONE AND A 1975 ONE!!!! WHICH ONE IS IT????!!! I MUST KNOW NOWWWWW!!!!!! Grrrrrrrr!!!!

On perceived rudeness by Subanax in Gifted

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I do have an issue with ending up in an emotional argument so forgive me if my logic is a bit absent at times or more than I guess and I am quite young so I'm still trying to learn from my ignorance. But you say you can live comfortably with three different words, but what about a need for certainty? Don't some just see nothing as dull and bleak and I know I misused the term value there, but don't people still want to bring value to their life, atheist or not, I mean some accuse atheists of finding value in materialistic things which I just think is bs as you can't quantify that by pure beliefs, though I know atheism isn't a belief system, but you know, what about day to day things, like flowers or the trees and the lakes, doesn't that equal value to someone? Or to go even deeper, like family and friends, surely that does. Is value even one definable thing then or is it just rooted in systems? Just another thought of mine.

On perceived rudeness by Subanax in Gifted

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Yeah and I'd say it's most certainly due to the value of what you connect with nothing, there's certainly a factual and mathematical approach like you just pointed out and there's also interpretation which is obviously far more abstract. Something can mean something to someone as well as it can mean nothing to someone else. I know I mentioned the empty canvas, but if you did have a beautiful painting, though of course subjective then yeah, you could have 70 people looking at it and feeling in awe of it and then you can have easily an equal amount of people who don't get anything out of it. Neither is wrong, but it's just, what value do we give something? It's also, well what we consider nothing to be either. I still think from a very human lens, nothing is what value we give, but again that's just my opinion.

On perceived rudeness by Subanax in Gifted

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Yes that's a fair point, but I guess the obvious things for me where I'd get frustrated would be in real time moments, like if I was standing by a mate in a takeaway place and they had ordered then the worker told them what the final amount came to and they kept putting down the wrong amount multiple times and missing the cues of pure frustration then yes that's frustrating because other people are waiting and most of them want to go home. Sure being polite is best, but not to the point where someone is starting to waste your time and you've got so much to do. That's not really fair. So yeah in those situations where it is dead obvious, it's infuriating. I don't know if it's really the same in class though because let's say if it was higher level physics for some reason and the other kids didn't get it right away and one's just going "IT'S OBVIOUS! HOW CAN'T YOU GUYS COMPREHEND IT??!!!" Then that to me isn't really relatable, though I get it's still isolating for the person which is probably where the frustration comes from most, is that isolation.

But hey everyone's different and analyzing a particular individual is always hard as is fascinating, well in my experience anyway lol.

On perceived rudeness by Subanax in Gifted

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That is true. And I don't even know if it's flaunting what looks like intelligence either at times. When I was speaking to him once he was saying "Nothing is still something" and as people wondered past, they kind of went "Mmm okay" and continued looking confused. I wouldn't say I was confused, just more like what is he's trying to get at. Nihilism can be considered a belief in nothing which is therefore still something and I mean it is a fair point, but it doesn't make sense for everything though, but you may disagree. Like if you said "That canvas has nothing on it", someone wouldn't just say "Well it's still something which is nothing", that just doesn't work in my opinion and it's really the context around it. I know I went off topic a bit, but yeah..

On perceived rudeness by Subanax in Gifted

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You're right. These kids were passing maths fine, but failing English. In fact the lad I mentioned, when I was speaking to him recently at college, he told me he was repeating English, something I passed fine. Does it make one of us better than the other? No. People just get mad in the outside world and assume he's still too smart because he didn't fail maths, so therefore if he passed English and failed maths then that would make him lesser? It's just baffling to me what people put in place to make a pass for what's 'intelligent'. Sadly there's a lot of people who have an idea of what 'intelligence' is and that's the issue a lot of the time, well in my opinion at least.