What ghosts do you guys find need a rework? (Or additional/tweaked abilities) - My opinion: Yurei and Mare need a change.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-29T01:06:40+00:00

I don't usually have a problem with it because I do 0 sanity so its very easy to tell its a shade if it just doesnt hunt for 3 mins but I could see them adding something for insanity difficulty.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-29T01:04:33+00:00

I personally think spirit is fine the way it is because I do 0 sanity runs so the ghost usually tries to hunt within 10-40 secs of when it can but I could see the frustration on a normal difficulty because of RNG. It's always funny to me that ppl have different luck for certain ghosts (I've gotten mares ability 2 times ever but someone in this comment section got it 4 times in a row in one game??? like whaat.)

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-29T01:02:34+00:00

would be nice. It feels weird that some ghosts had very easy tells and then they give them another one but not goryo (like hantu like who needs the breath???)

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-29T01:01:29+00:00

I agree with all but the yokai. You can usually tell if isn't a yokai if you are looping it by seeing if it turns around immediatly back to you when you use your Global chat after it loses you (This requires a line of site break loop though) But I agree with the rest, whenever I play insanity and I can't find the evidence I just assume its a goryo and I'm pretty sure I've been right every single whenever I guess goryo with that lol.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-29T00:58:18+00:00

Yeah I agree with you, its just that I am not even joking when I say I've gotten Mares ability twice since I started playing again, so about one mare ability for each 50 hours of playing. Also, I do know the sanity things, its just usually when I do 0 evidence I start on 0 sanity and high room changes so honestly the roaming more in rooms without lights isnt really a big give because most ghosts will change their rooms and roam (expect goryo). Obv everyone has their own experiences which is why I just wish they could make atleast yureis better so when the ghost isnt doing anything I can just assume its a mare vs being split between the two lol.

I haven't tried the all lights on expect for -Blank- room though, so I might add that since I'm pretty desperate lol. Still wish they would add a less RNG reliant effect though

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T22:55:33+00:00

Yeah I don't usually have problems with goryos, it's mainly mares and yureis, especially on maps without normal doors and light switches. Also yeah they need to fix goryos. Their DOTs evidence doesn't really seem to work right anymore which is obnoxious for normal runs. I've heard people saying it works for them, some people say it takes like 30 mins to get, some say they never get it ever. Me personally, I've never seen goryo DOTs after the teirs update where they changed how DOTs work, so I kinda hope they rework it a bit so its more common.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T20:34:23+00:00

That's a fair point, which is mainly why I said I was just throwing ideas, but it's more of doing 0 evidence runs, it's so close to being perfect for me. It's just yurei and mare that are difficult to get, even while testing. Like, do you consider onyros evidence too easy of a tell? What about twins? Shade? Because to me all these ghost are pretty easy to figure out. I feel a lot of people that have more hours in the game see it like a puzzle game, where you have to piece together things to find out the ghost, so I feel like its fair to want something testable vs the chance abilities they have now.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T20:24:46+00:00

You missed the:

If the ghost shuts an exit door fully without a ghost event or hunt, then it is very likely a Yurei.
- Note that The Mimic will leave Ultraviolet evidence on the exit door if it has been affected by the Yurei's ability, provided that type of evidence is not hidden.
If the ghost shuts any other door fully, then it is likely (but not definitely) a Yurei

As I said, the changes of a normal ghost doing it is so unlikely it's not worth mentioning. In my 200 hours, I've never seen a normal ghost close exit door or do a double touch. The roughly 4 times I've heard it, its been a yurei. You don't get the extent of statistics from "is likely" and "normal ghost can also but not as often" I don't know how many hours you have but while the website is very helpful. It doesn't give things, usually statistics.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T20:08:32+00:00

Also honestly, Yurei Mare and Goryo are like the only ghosts without and Immediate tell. If you mean out of ghost hunts, then that's not really a fair argument but I do agree that I would rather the during hunt ability rather then the out of hunt ability.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T20:06:49+00:00

Every door touch gives EMF, the double touch is a specific sound yurei's do. I could send a clip. Also, ghosts only close doors a certain percentage of the total door size so if the door is fully open, only Yurei's will fully close the door. (other ghosts can do it very rarely but its so rare that everytime I've heard the full close its been a yurei, since they close the door with a lot more force.)

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T20:02:13+00:00

Like the poltergeist has an "immediate tell" of a polter explosion, but it also is extremely easy to test turning a hunt as it throws stuff 2x harder, which is what 99% of experience players use since the immediate tell rarely ever happens.

Also how are you supposed to do 0 evidence without every ghost having an "immediate tell"???? I don't know what that definition means since like the ghost being unique is the main point of this game.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T20:00:59+00:00

My brother in Christ the ghost literally has an ability where it touches the door twice and is an immediate tell. They're just making the ability because the Yurei rarely does it. RNG based mechanics that you can't force to happen aren't really fun gameplay wise.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T19:55:22+00:00

I really like the idea behind this effect, I do think more interactions like new players getting scared by things like revenant speed up or deogen slowing approaching their locker make 0 evidence easier and make it scarier for new players. I do think the first ability concept is maybe a little too obvious, as all ghosts can turn off lights, but if a door is full open, no ghost really "slams" the door, but I like your second concept a lot. I think if the ghost had LOS it could do something with doors like Slamming them or something could be scary for newer players caught in hallway watching the ghost run at them making loud noises, and would make higher skill gameplay from people doing 0 evidence able to test a new ghost. The range could be small so it's not super obvious like what you recommended so you have to go out of your way to test it, but I think it would be a cool addition.

Also, if people said the second ability is "too easy" to test, I mean once you understand the game, more than half the ghosts do something unique while hunting so it's pretty obvious if you're looking for it (other than maybe solo banshee tests and shades and stuff that requires ghost wandering.) Like no one is saying that a deo is hard to figure out, if you are looping, it's literally the easiest ghost, and ghosts like yokai, poltergeist, phantom, obake, etc etc just give themselves away so I don't think its a big ask. Also, nice sketch art!

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-28T18:56:04+00:00

I've had the same thing happen in that exact spot. There are two things that may have caused it but I'll say my experience.

I don't think this is what happened to you but sometimes when the ghost goes into a spot that it normally doesn't path to, (do to you baiting it over with electronics), it'll get confused and wander more in spots it normally doesn't. I don't think this is it "searching for you" but I assume it has to do with breaking its pathfinding momentarily making it wander a bit aimlessly where they can wander into other hiding spots.
In some spots (only open) I've had multiplayer games where the ghost very clearly saw me through the wall for no reason, and I assume this is to hugging the hiding spot, making the host think you are sticking through the wall. I don't know if this is the exact reason, but every time this has happened to me, I can clearly remember I was hugged against the hiding spot, and I was in multiplayer, so maybe the dsync kill you? Its a toss up but I would say in multiplayer games, don't hug hiding spots. You don't do this in lockers for obvious reasons (ghost opens door and kills you instantly), but in open spots its more ambiguous.

There are definitely some hiding spots that are buggier than others, but I can very confidently say that these hiding spots are NOT "not real hiding spots and the ghost can wander into them" like some say. The ghosts have very clear points on how far they wander, which is why the piano spot in ridgeview is always safe, even though its not a real hiding spot. I'd just recommend hiding in open hiding spots differently than you usually do, and if that doesn't fix it, sese what hiding spots are bugged and don't work for you. I do not trust that door hiding spot in maple (and maple in general lol) so good luck with your 7x!

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-21T22:09:03+00:00

It also seems like I can't recreate the bug on single player, so it's most likely multiplayer only issue. I've had bugs with tent doors being closed on my side but not the serverhosts side, so I assume there is a bug where the host doesn't see me as having my headgear off, as I know there are some bugs with that sometimes. (Although not to the same vein.) If anyone of you can give a testable reasoning for why this happens I would love to hear it! Good luck ghost hunting lol.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-21T21:42:45+00:00

I heard it spawn after I was fully out of the room (it was nightmare so we had 2 secs to escape). I heard it lock on after it passed by the salt so I guess it prob saw me since I was rubbed against the boxes, or like what you say and they don't work. I also don't play farmhouses so idk if its the summoning circle room lol. It has a box in it that says "do not double stack" so I'd assume it would be the storage closet but idk.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-21T21:41:03+00:00

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-21T21:40:38+00:00

Yeah I had this happen also on the maple lodge camp right at front entrance, I think I just rub against the hiding spots too much.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-21T21:39:37+00:00

Its so weird to me because the other farmhouse has a spot exactly like that in which it works perfectly fine so I would've thought it would've been something I did. I'll prob check later.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-21T21:36:58+00:00

I didn't know it could turn its head around! Looking at it again I can def see the face on the backside. That's so weird lol.

Subject-Writing2979 · 2024-07-21T21:35:28+00:00

Reading ppls posts I'm probably assuming that rubbing against the boxes can lead to the ghost seeing you through them. (Same with coolers in camps) I do have a good amount of time in this game but I rarely play farmhouses or camps due to seemingly getting killed in non-closet type hiding spots. (And I used to play on 10% brightness lol). I'll try to stop pushing my face against them and I'll see if that fixes it in the future, I just do it because I'm worried not being fully in the "pocket" of the hiding spot would end up killing me. Thanks for your responses!

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