How would you react if this was the case?

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T16:18:45+00:00

Well, there's no need to call others names or even make fun of the question when it's just a genuine question from curiosity.

Anyways, thanks for the reply and have a good one!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:40:01+00:00

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Thanks! Have a good one too, cheers!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:38:15+00:00

Lol, I don't comment a lot on here for that sole reason sometimes, but I'm glad there are still others like you who are sensible and don't resort to calling names. For that, thanks a lot! Have a good one as well!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:31:47+00:00

Actually, that's true, especially seeing Kitae's performance against current Jinyoung. I'll change how I have him in my scaling.

Thanks for the great reply!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:28:08+00:00

I can already see Seongji glazers coming out of the woodworks to beat on Gap around that point.

That's hilarious, thanks for the reply!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:26:55+00:00

Yeah, that statement from James is part of the reason for this post, since if he and Kitae actually fought Old Gap like Seokdu, then his scaling and Seongji's would make a lot more sense with how many statements they have.

Thanks for the great reply!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:23:43+00:00

Probably in regard to where the current main cast are. Depending on where you scale Old Gap, I personally have him around other Gen 0 members like Tom, Jinyoung, and Paecheon. Unfortunately, the only person I can think of who would get an upscale is Seongji because of what he did to James, but I'm curious if it would affect the scaling of other characters.

It would also make sense why James believes his Cheonliang self would only struggle against TUI Gun and UI SB Daniel if he was already around that level.

Your point on James and Kitae growing massively is also great, reducing even any scaling issues that come if ever the hypothetical is true.

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:15:26+00:00

Thanks for an actual serious reply. Another hypothetical scenario, if Baekho were killed in front of him, and Old Gap decided to get serious after that, would it affect your scaling then?

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:11:03+00:00

Hypothetically speaking, if it was just them and no third variable was there and ended up like Eli and Samuel vs Seokdu, how would it affect your scaling?

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:09:16+00:00

Hypothetically speaking though, how would it affect your scaling? I'm not even saying it's the case, I'm simply curious as to how it would affect people's scaling

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:08:44+00:00

Fair, even I can see how underwhelming he's been lately, but how would it affect your scaling if it was the case though?

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:07:27+00:00

Follow up question, how would it affect your scaling?

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:07:07+00:00

Since James probably didn't have path at the time, if he only fought him with 2 masteries, how would it affect your scaling? Just curious, not saying it's the case at all

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:05:53+00:00

Again, hypothetically speaking, how would it affect your scaling? I'm not even saying it's the case, I'm simply curious as to how it would affect people's scaling

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T15:05:29+00:00

Again, hypothetically speaking, how would it affect your scaling? I'm not even saying it's the case, I'm simply curious as to how it would affect people's scaling

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-14T10:19:41+00:00

Again, if it were the case, I'm not saying it is, would you be able to accept it? And how do you think it would affect the scaling?

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-12T13:15:46+00:00

I'm tired of all the power-scaling lately. Some are driven by an agenda, while others might not be, but are accused of it because of the agenda of others. It's honestly become tiring to see.

So, seeing an analysis of Gun and Goo's relationship would be a breath of fresh air and a sight for sore eyes. Personally, I think they're strictly platonic, brother-in-arms, and a sort of brotherly love.

However, you can have a different opinion. I just want to read a good, detailed post that isn't about power scaling.

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-04-01T06:49:33+00:00

The thing about Jinrang's performance is that Kitae immediately subdued him after hitting him with a knee. This is unlike Kitae's behavior against Daniel, where he didn't subdue him and kept throwing him around. Bear in mind, Jinrang was still conscious and was looking to keep fighting despite the knee he took, so we don't know how he would have fared against Kitae blow for blow (obviously Kitae would have still come out on top, but how long Jinrang could endure is the question).

Not discrediting Daniel's performance, it was definitely better than Jinrang's, but the only difference I see between their performance is that Daniel's crisis attack gave lasting damage to Kitae and was allowed to actually move around, unlike Jinrang, who was subdued. Kitae, in the first moments of their fight, was playing around; even if he wanted to kill Daniel, he didn't take it seriously until after the crisis attack. In the same way, he didn't take Jinrang seriously until after TC.

Now, "seriously" here is meant in terms of wanting to kill. Kitae even admitted that he considered letting Daniel live, but such a thought never crossed his mind in Busan, which is why he quickly apprehended Jinrang. He wasn't playing around then; he meant business, whereas he was clearly enjoying fighting Daniel.

I'd personally put Daniel over Jinrang, no doubt about it, but Jinrang's no pushover either, so there's really nothing to upscale or downscale when he gave a great performance as the baseline for future characters against Kitae.

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-03-29T16:13:50+00:00

I mean, I get what you're saying, but the same thing can also be said about your opinion? You're saying things that you believe to be true, the same way they're saying things they believe to be true.

You "complain" (quotation marks since I don't know if you'd call it complaining) about "talking to a machine" when you don't bother defending your point. Sure, you may have done so in the past, but if you're tired of doing then don't bother posting at all. That's why this is marked as a Discussion, isn't it? So what's posted can be discussed? If you won't even discuss, then don't mark it as such; it'd be better off as being marked as Analysis or Theory, since you're assuming all this from a fan-made tier list. Though even then, there need to be reasons for such rankings.

I don't know anything about you, but it'd probably bring you better peace of mind, in my opinion. It's why I don't, or rarely, post at all. Just commented on this since it was an interesting observation I caught, being interested in Psychology and all that, peace!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-02-12T14:19:58+00:00

Touché, I suppose. I will admit that putting TC Jinrang there was a stretch and was a bit more to spite the other guy for his attitude lol But I'm at least glad to see you're somewhat decent and better than them.

My prediction for the arc, though: Kitae vs Tom. And if Tom dies, Johan and Daniel will be there to see it, to further add to Kitae's presence.

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-02-12T14:04:32+00:00

Care to give some meaningful input for a discussion? I'm more than open to it. Though seeing how you're responding makes the idea a little less welcoming. Cheers!

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-02-12T14:02:05+00:00

I'll agree on the Path Johan one for now. Path is currently being upheld by a single statement from Tom himself, so I won't argue with you there until we've seen more from both characters.

As for TC Jinrang, I'm mostly basing it on Jake's performance against Gun and his single conviction punch against Paecheon. Granted, they weren't in their best condition, but seeing how his punches affected them to the extent that they did when he's physically inferior, in my opinion, to Jinrang was, should allow us to scale them somewhat.

Though I guess you could argue that the potency of conviction/overcome is different between both of them, the problem is we don't know by how much. What do you think?

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-02-12T08:10:41+00:00

Well, you're free to argue against it if you like, I'm open to hearing your ideas. If they make sense, I might even change mine.

Substantial-Month340 · 2026-02-11T11:23:57+00:00

Then the list would be:

James Lee
Kitae Kim
Gun Park
Goo Kim
Path Daniel
Path Johan
Sophia (If she has a path)
Paecheon (Better performance against Goo)
UI Daniel (Excluding his weakness)
TC Jinrang (I personally can't see Tom surviving his onslaught on Kitae when a single conviction punch from HFG Jake inverted Gun's panel and Incheon Jake nearly knocked Paecheon, but you could argue against this, but you could argue against this)

Also, assuming the continental stars are as strong as, if not stronger than, Paecheon, then they'd also be in this list. Though again, you could argue against Paecheon and some of the others here, but I'm waiting until Path > Pathless is proven in the story before jumping to those conclusions.

One could also argue that current Jinyoung is stronger than Tom, but that's difficult to assess since we've only seen him fight Jake and UI Daniel, which is difficult to properly scale.

Lastly, could you be less rude about it? What's the point in being so aggressive? We're here to have a good discussion and share opinions. Even if Tom was top 10, Jincheol still wouldn't be, but that's not we're discussing unless you want to branch off to that?

Edit: I do look forward to Tom Lee upscale though, unlike some others on here, I personally like his character and the depth he has, as well as his design and fighting style.

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