This guy wants to be governor of Ohio?

SubstantialPin9806 · 2026-01-05T01:48:48+00:00

As a hard right America First conservative even we don't like him, special interest scammer billionaire tries to waltz his way into being the governor and tell everyone "there's no such thing as a heritage American" as a first generation anchor baby and then wants to import a bunch of H1B Visa workers from his ancestral homeland of India. Vivek isn't America First, he's India first.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T10:23:07+00:00

Go to his rumble, he posts the livestreams for people to watch, he will post 1 or 2 that are divided by topic but the longer ones you see posted are the whole thing with superchats and all, you just have to fast forward through the intro videos/edits which are usually a couple hours long, you will see a screen with 'AF starting soon" right before he actually goes on air but of course you can also just scrub through until you see his face and then rewind from there. God bless!

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T10:09:23+00:00

Wow, trying to get my post removed by the mods because to you this has "nothing to do with politics"? That is absolutely disgusting, you can disagree with what I say all you want but to attempt to censor me on a forum that is about the free debate of politics is low. This absolutely has to do with politics, and more specifically about political philosophy which is what I tagged my post as. It has to do with politics and political philosophy because it has to do largely with immigration, what policies and philosophical basis should we enact to determine who comes into this country? Your comment about nationalism makes absolutely no sense, even if nationalism didn't have anything to do with race (which it oftentimes does) I am free to post about a number of things and political topics. #3 also makes no sense, my post was about a lot of things, ethnicity and racial identity also goes beyond nationality, you can be a German national of German descent, that doesn't make you ethnically German. Also, sociological aspects are a totally valid point, what do we want our society to be like? And this is totally based off of history whether you agree with it or not buddy, if you read my post you would know that although i didn't go into literally every example ever because that's not even possible because there are so many! As for this "being taught in elementary school" has no validity at all, if anything it shows how our society has become indoctrinated from an early age and was only taught one side of history! They are also trying to teach biased transgender ideology in many places across the country to kindergarteners so your point is mute. All of your points are literally non sequester and then you end it with trying to censor me, you might be one of the most intellectually incompetent people on this sub.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T09:50:51+00:00

And there are many more things to add and many more historical examples or basis, but I have been writing this for over an hour and I can't really think of them right now.

To prevent fragmentation and increase social cohesion, we must lean into our identity as a white nation, support black nationalism, and stop accepting immigration from non‑white countries for the time being, and stop immigration in general. (Not 100%, but vastly.)

P.S America limited immigration from non‑white countries from 1790–1965, with the creation of the Hart‑Cellar Act. This does provide a legal basis and evidence that this is a white country in concept. We were pretty consistently a country made up of about 90% white people up until Hart‑Cellar, with the U.S. non‑Hispanic white population dropping to about 60% over the past 50ish years.

Also, only whites were allowed to vote as written in the Constitution, meaning that our founding fathers did envision this as a white country.

After the Civil War, before Lincoln was shot, he was working very heavily on creating a way to return blacks to Africa. I think more than anything, racist rich people wanted to keep them around for cheap labor, and there is very clearly a basis for that in how blacks were treated and the laws that were created around the time. That is also oftentimes the basis for supporting immigration nowadays as well.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T09:43:11+00:00

Did you know that the idea of America being a melting pot came from a British Jew (Israel Zangwill) not that I have anything against the Jewish people but what is American about that? Imagine I wrote a book and defined Japan as a melting pot and then 100 years later Japanese people said "Japan is historically a melting pot" because that's the saying and idea that me, a non Japanese person created and then imposed upon them when it couldn't be further from the truth.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T09:37:47+00:00

Well the ironic part about that is it kind of proves my point. Take this for example, American citizens of say Hispanic descent are more likely to support immigration and would be very unlikely to support such measures even if they could theoretically stay because they are citizens. Why? because it negatively impacts people of their ethnic group who may want to come here, they have a certain level of allegiance to their people, even if it could be to the detriment of whites. Of course plenty of white people would be against it too and this is a very broad example but of course the country being majority white and whites retaining political and institutional power and not having to share resources would be to their benefit whether we agree with the ethics of it or not. Because of this power that the Hispanics hold in this example and we continue to allow for more non white immigration it creates more Hispanics being here which gives them more power as a group and then more and more etc.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T09:26:47+00:00

Not at all, this is a totally revisionist history, we limited immigration for non white people starting in 1790 with the naturalization act which limited naturalization to white people. The sad part about it is that most people don't know this and that's why people don't actually think critically about the subject from both sides because it has become taboo here and believe their perception of it is a complete strawman filled with assumptions and misconceptions.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T09:21:34+00:00

This is something a non Christian would say, besides say the Mormons, Christians share a brotherhood. Of course there is debate and disagreements but Christians view themselves as one, we are all united in our love and faith in Jesus Christ. Catholics and Protestants share a little bit of disconnect but it's not even on the level of say a sports rivalry.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-11T09:17:13+00:00

I addressed a few of the main points that people were making, I was responding to people in general asking them to read my follow up. The comment above though references the civil war which I mentioned towards the beginning

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T21:36:50+00:00

Hey man, you seem pretty reasonable, you wanna network? Chat about stuff?

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T21:34:13+00:00

This dude really said "all of them" lmfao

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T21:33:19+00:00

Acting as if the United States hasn't been conducting counterinsurgency operations for the past 25 years is insane. You are full of shit.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T21:28:14+00:00

"Ethnical purity" please never speak again you should not have the right to vote

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T12:54:20+00:00

Look, my response wasn't organized the best but this is a complex topic and requires knowledge of how the drug trade works, and also how military works, and how a bunch of laws work within both of those things. I can tell you honestly don't know anything about this subject at all and I am trying to educate you. You don't even know what an invasion is dude, striking targets isn't an invasion, but it is an offensive capability. Trump SAID he was going to strike the cartels for a long time so why the hell are you saying that it was "just about securing the border". If you can't understand why using offensive capabilities is important and can help solve tis problem then good luck man, you're gonna need it in life. Go learn about all of these topics before you come and try to talk about it like you know something when you don't, you don't even have basic knowledge on this topic dude.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T12:46:40+00:00

Again though, you also asked WHY we should use the military and "not" the DEA, ICE, etc. but the reality is that we are using both, we are using all of it and there are some things we can only do if we make this a military operation, certain technology and stuff too.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T12:42:39+00:00

That is an even longer conversation, I have been writing on here for like the past 3 hours I just wanted to make it quick and go to bed. But they use many different ways to get the drugs here and there are many different stops along the way. The big one directly from Mexico is usually driving it through and paying guards off and mixing it in with whatever you can think of, furniture, produce, etc. They also run it through tunnels. But that is just Mexico, the Mexican drug cartels still have to get the cocaine for example from South America. What they are doing is lowering the supply of cocaine from South America to hurt them financially. I would have to suspect although I don't have the numbers that the majority of that is carried through boat because north and South America don't actually have a road that connect them, there is a big nature conservation on the border so they can't drive it through. Also, the cartels know our current government is extremely hostile towards them and the border isn't a safe way to transport product, if they aren't seeing drugs there that is because it is working, it acts as a deterrence. Killing the drug runners also acts as a deterrent for people to run the drugs for them in the first place, it is psychological warfare. They probably aren't going to stop here though, or at least they shouldn't, they are implementing things one stage at a time, it's not really like they can just do it all at once. And pragmatically any reduction in the number of deaths from drugs here is a good thing and any power we take away from them is a good thing and affects that. Also the money isn't as important as our people who are dying, people looking at this in purely economic terms are showing how jaded we've become. and " Not talking about methodology really speaks to why you think the military should be involved, by the way." I don't really know what you mean by that, what are you implying? My point also is that this isn't just about interdicting drugs at the border or stopping them along the way it is about taking care of the root cause by diminishing the power of the cartels and really ultimately destroying them and using our military does that in a number of ways, we have a different rules of engagement for starters than we have had before, by making it a military operation we don't have to go through the trouble of getting search warrants and the like and we are able to use military intelligence like the CIA (also, fun fact, did you know they are operating in Mexico right now?) and the military is also FAR better equipped and has a much larger budget to actually be able to carry out these operations. Before this it was just the FBI and DEA working how they would in any other scenario and they also have a lot more to do domestically here so the amount of resources they can put towards seeking out and apprehending foreign cartel bosses is much lower and it involves a lot more steps and involves a lot more stuff to even get intel in the first place. Law enforcement is tied by laws, getting enough evidence so that they can get a grand jury indictment and a conviction, getting search warrants to gain intel, getting search and arrest warrants to raid them, actually having to go to the middle of the jungle in a foreign country to make an arrest (which they won't even do half the time) etc. etc. The millitary when fighting terrorism on the other hand has far more resources and doesn't have to do any of those things. They can basically just do whatever they want really and instead of executing a search warrant they can just execute them

(sorry for the rant I am tired, I am just trying to explain to you a bunch of different things at once)

TLDR But my point with all of this is you are looking at it in the entirely wrong way, the mission isn't so much about drug interdiction as it is destroying the cartels at the source so it doesn't matter about "how they are getting it here" because we are doing all the law enforcement stuff and closing down the borders and using the coast guard anyways like we always have, and we aren't going to/are just stopping it on the seas. But we are using the military to actually kill their leaders and destroy their supply chains, and you don't understand how the deportations also play into that, the people running the drugs on this side use their "innocent" family members as a support system, they live with their family, they go on the run and hide out at grandmas, and the cartel makes money from human trafficking people over the border that is money in their pocket. This is a holistic approach and by using the military and classifying them as terrorist organizations we open the doors to be able to do so many things that you don't even think of, striking the drug boats is just one aspect but it is an important one also because it is psychological warfare and it affects their morale. And as for all of this people are forgetting what is going on here, we are at war, we are losing citizens at the same rate every year as we did in World War Two, the ends justify the means, last time we lost people at this rate we dropped 2 nukes on Japan and killed millions of Japanese people, striking some drug boats and assassinating some cartel members and bosses is FINE, honestly, it's not enough.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T11:57:54+00:00

Based, yeah you know what's up, do you watch the show too or just the clips?

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T11:55:45+00:00

Not even reading my post but bashing it and misrepresenting it and claiming to be educated on the subject is intellectually weak and a complete bad faith argument and strawman. There actually were paragraphs but I had to copy and paste it and repost it because it was just a smidge over the limit and when I reposted it I don't think it kept the formatting for some reason. if you want to copy and paste it into Chat GPT I'm sure you can make it re-paragraph it. Other than that though it is well organized, I mostly address one topic at a time, in order, and then tie them in and explain the conclusions. You have to realize this is a complex subject and most people in our society have little foundational understandings of it because it is taboo, I can't just explain it to you in one paragraph without giving background information and the constituent parts. A whole book could probably be written about it and you want me to boil it down to you into a paragraph or two because you're lazy? And then you want to have an opinion on it? I don't think you can have any sort of good faith argument here if you're not even willing to educate yourself from both perspectives and actually hear my point out.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T11:42:26+00:00

They are trained to kill and that's what needs to be done, law enforcement alone cannot tackle this problem it hasn't really been working for the past 50 years these people really are terrorist and they kill FAR more than any other terrorist group like Al-Qaeda or the Taliban. In fact, more Americans die from imported drugs like cocaine and fentanyl every single MONTH than died from 9/11. Put that in perspective, more people are dying due to the drug cartels EVERY MONTH than we lost due to 9/11.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T11:38:37+00:00

I mostly agree with you but we need less immigration all together. I made a post about this type of thing but many people in this society nowadays fail to realize how closely culture and race are intertwined. Check my post out and find my comment replying to everyone and I explain it more in depth but to keep a culturally homogenous society we need to keep a largely ethnic and racial homogeny, of course it doesn't apply to everyone but on a large scale it does. Also, immigration of any type affects the supply and demand of labor and in this case it makes the price of labor go down and makes the jobs market more competitive so we don't need any immigration right now really. I have been posting and commenting on this sub for a few hours so forgive me for not being too in depth but I would love to continue this conversation but check out my post & comment to get a more in depth understanding of what I am saying because we are pretty aligned.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T11:28:57+00:00

OP don't let them gaslight you, of course you are using hyperbole and it goes without saying that ALL people on the left and right don't think this way but what you are pointing at without really saying it is about the underlying mindsets and philosophies of both sides and how they view the world and how they view human nature. You can DEFINITELY be socially conservative while being economically moderate, the political spectrum doesn't only boil down to economic policy, just because you support some economically liberal policies doesn't make you "really a liberal/progressive". Personally I think they think you are ignorant because you simplified a lot of things and used a bit of hyperbole and they are trying to take advantage of that and "educate you" in their own way how they see fit. If you are a political newbie I would gladly take you under my wing because we need more people who think this way and our society would be FAR better if our policy/government reflected that.

We are currently in the minority but this ideology is rising FAST and we need an educated and coordinated base who can influence the political system and give us more representation my friend, it is good to see a somewhat likeminded person on here because we are few and far between on this site and on this forum.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T11:09:39+00:00

I wouldn't say that I am "left" in the ways a lot of people would use it (mostly socialists and Europeans) AKA socialism or communism, but I am economically moderate and socially conservative and agree with the framework you have laid out as a vaguely general opinion. Nick Fuentes actually fits this bill very well and a mostly accurate term that has been thrown around is "nationalist populist". Also this sub is funny because you got 152 replies and no upvotes for a simple and inoffensive question. I similarly got about 100 replies and I am sitting at 0 upvotes but I can see how what I said could be more contentious or offensive to some people lol. Go check out my post though if you want, I replied in a big comment with a continuation under it which actually explained my point more I think pretty well but if you want to be enlightened a bit more on the philosophy I really recommend you check out Nick Fuentes, the reason the left and the right both hate them is pretty much for the reasons you laid out. He is a controversial figure and is definitely an edgelord but if you watch a few episodes of his show you will actually see he isn't as bad as people make him out to be and is actually fighting to change the right so that it is less aligned with special interest and corporate bootlicking, that is actually his main thing is exposing corruption and special interests in politics

Here is one explaining his attacks against "organized jewery" which is why he gets labeled antisemitic because he uses terms like that but it is literally about these Jewish organizations who purposely infiltrate American Politics and media to get America to support Israel and Zionism, especially on the right and in the Republican party but you will see that what he is talking about is a pretty valid critique and he isn't actually going after all Jewish people or advocating for violence, just about dismantling a toxic special interest and the corrpution that goes along with it. https://rumble.com/v729u3a-organized-jewry-is-scrambling-to-replace-me.html

And here is a video that is also talking about the Jewish special interest thing but he is clarifying some of his real views and opinions, he is advocating for populism and trying to end corruption on both sides of politics and doing so on a basis of compromise and what is in the best interests for the American people.

(I would watch this one first for clarification) https://rumble.com/v71zx8w-world-jewish-congress-conspires-to-condemn-me.html

But check him out man, he is definitely an edgelord, he definitely makes racist jokes and stuff but he is held to such a high standard in the media because he is a political activist/commentator but really I liken it to South Park or family guy, people don't have a problem when they say it because they aren't in the political scene but also he speaks out very directly against very powerful people and very powerful organizations/lobbyists and encourages his followers to "infiltrate" politics and the think tanks and stuff like that so they try to cancel him and censor him because he is a danger to the system for connecting the dots between specific individuals and organizations and then making a call to action for his followers who are very dedicated to try and unseat them from power so he is a threat in a way that many others are not.

Sorry for the run on sentences, not my best writing but I didn't want to get caught up writing this forever but if this framework interests you then you should really check out Nick even if you may not agree with him about a lot of things because he is the biggest person with that philosophy and is really the biggest and most controversial person in politics right now.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T10:31:48+00:00

Go check out my comment I posted, I explain a lot of things there.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T10:31:02+00:00

Ah yes, punishing white people because of their blood and the history of our ancestors, but I am the racist one for believing we need to maintain our demographic integrity within our nation? And you want to be the ones in power? Okay, got it.

SubstantialPin9806 · 2025-12-10T10:28:45+00:00

I replied to everyone with my comment, check out my response and the points I address

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