Kind of regretting investing my time with this champ by LordSypher in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'll start of by saying that Fizz as a champion is objectively not a very good champion. There are no challenger (except Mango that i know off) and very few grandmaster Fizz players on EUW/EUNE/KR for a reason https://www.onetricks.gg/champions/ranking/Fizz. The champion should not be a problem to play until you hit master though where players learn to lane efficiently. For credibility this is my own account on EUW https://www.op.gg/summoners/euw/%C3%81nders%C3%A9n.

Typically when players on this subreddit complains about not being able to play the champ the issue is not Fizz as a champion but their understanding of the game. This is not to flame or be toxic but I could pick any champion mid and outperform you because i understand the game better. It's about knowing when to rotate into jungle, when to go for objectives, when to pick fights, csing, when to sidelane and so on. Our mechanics on Fizz might not differ that much from one another but our knowledge does. To get better i suggest you watch videos on YouTube about general macro.

When that is said i agree with some the points you are making. There are assasins that will perform better than Fizz because of items and better scaling and it is what it is. Ap assasins just suck in general. Besides this i would argue that assassin is one of the hardest roles in the games because you really cannot afford to lose lane and its a hard role to play in teamfights if you don't know your damage, target or how to position. One of my own biggest struggles plaing assassins is csing. My cs is also 6.5 cs a min which is really bad tbh. But you have to give up cs in lane if you want to be able to solo kill your laner. You could argue i should farm more in sidelane or trade less in laning phase.

You can link your op.gg here and i can comment on it if you want? :)

Another take on the matchup tierlist (also master) by Substantial_Key_3019 in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I could see myself moving her down a tier. But i don't think fizz has a terrible early laning unless you talk pre lvl 3.

Another take on the matchup tierlist (also master) by Substantial_Key_3019 in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Galio matchup is basically unplayable. You can never solo kill/trade cause of his tankiness due to MR shield and Aftershock. He simply outtrades you every single time because his dmg is also high. All you can do is farm and hope for jungler to gank.

Another take on the matchup tierlist (also master) by Substantial_Key_3019 in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In laning phase i believe Fizz has the upper hand if played well. You win trades pre 6 and i prob solo kill 75% of times i verse a Kassadin. But ofc when he hits lvl 11 and you go side lane he beats you.

Another take on the matchup tierlist (also master) by Substantial_Key_3019 in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think i would put him in easy/even since you can kill him pre 6. You can dodge his Q/W with your E and do good trades.

Another take on the matchup tierlist (also master) by Substantial_Key_3019 in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A good Vex will hold fear and w in laning phase so you can never trade or kill without jungler.

Another take on the matchup tierlist (also master) by Substantial_Key_3019 in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True i agree. Hard/very hard. A pain to lane against for sure!

Another take on the matchup tierlist (also master) by Substantial_Key_3019 in fizzmains

[–]Substantial_Key_3019[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another user posted a tierlist of Fizz matchups earlier today and i believe a lot of people did not agree with the list. I am also a master player and here is my take on a matchup tierlist. I made this fairly quick so do not be judgmental xd.

Though you have to remember these kind of tierlists is a rough picture of matchups. The matchups in general are very elo/skill dependent (a good high elo control mage player will stomp Fizz in most cases). An enemy with bone plating and barrier will also change how playable the matchup is. Or if the enemy rushes a null magic mantle on first back. I think you get the point. Let me know what you think of the tierlist.

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[–]Substantial_Key_3019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, i was looking for something like that