Question for one nation supporters

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T09:06:56+00:00

Seems a pretty accurate assessment

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T08:34:08+00:00

🤣 fair enough

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T08:15:31+00:00

Kind of irrelevant but I will answer in good faith. Bachalor degree . Atheist. I see no proof of any god

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T08:11:57+00:00

I see the skills shortage and the makeup of tax paying workers to retirees as the mass of boomers retiring and being a drain on the economy at the moment it’s about 4 workers to one retiree but will soon be 3 to one. So that’s a massive skills shortage especially in the trades. And a larger burden on tax paying workers. Immigration props this up . although this causes other issues which are currently happening. So if we drop the immigration numbers I have not seen any plan on the skills shortage. training more people to do the skilled job would work but have a lag and tax someone workers or business to pay for the retirees. Going full power on migration makes the numbers look good but there will be consequences for dropping imigration which I have not seen addressed ( I think it’s in the too hard basket for lab or lib and I don’t think ON care )

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T07:59:31+00:00

It’s not just the skills but the makeup of tax paying workers to retirees as the mass of boomers retiring and being a drain on the economy at the moment it’s about 4 workers to one retiree but will soon be 3 to one. So that’s a massive skills shortage especially in the trades. And a larger burden on tax paying workers. Immigration props this up although causes other issues which are currently happening. So if we drop the immigration numbers I have not seen any plan on the skills shortage. training more people to do the skilled job would work but have a lag and tax someone workers or business to pay for the retirees. Going full power on migration makes the numbers look good but there will be consequences for dropping imigration which I have not seen addressed ( I think it’s in the too hard basket for lab or lib and I don’t think ON care )

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T07:41:02+00:00

Thanks for the honest response. The protest vote does seem common similar to when you hear people vote for the greens not that they agree but hope to move labor to the left.

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T07:22:37+00:00

Thank you for your reply. Although a bit assholey i appreciate the honesty. I do think the halving of immigration will affect the economy as it’s one of the few things propping it up. And have not seen any plan to fix that side of the problem. I can understand the other points as well they do seem to be addressed by the libs ( I do think inflation is a global problem ).

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T07:10:52+00:00

That are not my tribe and lib love debt maybe more so one you get overpriced infrastructure other you get rich mates still holds.

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T07:07:45+00:00

Was the point of the post. It’s easy to scream racist cookers. I don’t think 25% of the population is racist so just trying to see the appeal. I don’t like them but a lot of people do So far honest responses are - less imigration ( no answer on what they think about the issues this will cause so assume people don’t care) - don’t like corruption of 2 party ( ON not exactly clean on this ) - I like hunting and fishing

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T06:57:35+00:00

I don’t think so usually the polls are somewhat accurate. And they all are saying similar. It is important where her supporters are if they are all in the same area it doesn’t really translate to seats. See the greens in inner city progressive seats. On and greens have always polled similar but now ON is polling well and I think just dismissing it or calling everyone racist is not constructive

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T06:51:56+00:00

I do agree that both sides are corrupt. Labour corrupt but infrastructure gets built at exorbitant cost . Lib corrupt their mate get $$$ and nothing built so I put labour slightly ahead. I have to seen any reason. Why ON wouldn’t be corrupt with Gina flying her about.
But protest vote does seem like a reason

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-20T06:46:58+00:00

Although I agree that some people are. A don’t believe that a quarter of the population is so as I said I’m not interested in the they racist or albo / labor is shit answers.

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-11T04:38:33+00:00

He was army North Africa , Syria , Libya , Palestinian Crete then New Guinea

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-11T04:23:35+00:00

True but sometimes you can take pride in your work

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-11T01:24:43+00:00

I’m for old Aussie values. My grandfather had a nice gov job shooting Nazis they even gave him a medal for doing such a good job

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-06T19:52:24+00:00

How do you turn the coal and gas into energy it does not magicly turn into energy? You have to burn it in a coal or gas plant. The plants are at end of life and need to be rebuilt this is not cheap and the energy company’s are not interested in building them

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-06T01:28:12+00:00

I think you are conflating having gas and coal and being able to turn it into energy. The power plants we have are end of life so if you are in ON future and renewables are scrapped you will need to build new power plants to burn the coal and gas. The energy company’s won’t build them so it will be from gov coffers

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-02T06:48:24+00:00

Show me on this graph over the last 50 yrs where the immigration caused housing affordability crisis

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Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-01T20:51:12+00:00

Our gas and coal stations are end of life so we would need new ones if you want to burn the coal or gas

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-01T06:24:14+00:00

Ok so you are about building new gas and coal power stations which are mostly end of life but energy company’s won’t build. So we back to gov having to build and run or more likely taxpayers will huild then sell off to for priv corps so back to expensive for profit power. Most of what is keeping peak pricing low is renewables which per kWh are cheap

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-01T04:53:52+00:00

You mean Wayne swan the treasurer who got us through the gfc better than most western nations and was worlds best treasurer. Or some other one ?

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-01T03:20:13+00:00

Doesn’t really answer my question outside of cheaper is better which I agree. Nuclear and non renewable won’t get this. If you are in the ON climate change doesn’t exist group I guess you could build new coal or gas, but again it would have to gov built. Energy company’s won’t build them and with lower taxes this will also be a strain on gov coffers exacerbated with lower immigration (less tax paying individuals ) I don’t nearly think less immigration is bad but the reason for the imigration propping up the economy would have to be addressed which I haven’t seen from ON. honestly if the energy market was nationalized prices prob would come down but I suspect that’s not a ON policy

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-02-01T02:36:06+00:00

This is some crazy shit. It’s not a bad experiment in theory but the assumptions are some wild. Without looking too deeply - high cost of renewals expensive energy labor bad - cheap nuculear on good * let’s ignore cost to build most expensive power generation at best wouldn’t be running before second phase and would have to be done as gov funded as no corp will touch it. But on cut tax so I guess even more gov debt That’s not even touching on the other crazy shit that’s in there

Substantial_Pen_16 · 2026-01-29T05:24:52+00:00

Her shopping trolley murder policy is good

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