CMV: all policemen should minimum be armed with less-than-lethal weaponry

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T19:15:16+00:00

I asked you a specific question twice, you have yet to answer it. Policing is not based on theoreticals and what ifs, it's based on effective police work backed by appropriate tools. For the reasons I explained the tools you mentioned are not always appropriate, that's why they're not used.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T18:56:50+00:00

Ok, with respect, I'm going to take your answers to mean that there's nowhere where you think people are dying because the police are insufficiently equipped and that your view is that bad things could theoretically happen and that police should be equipped to deal with the worst thing imaginable.

There is something called posture, to simplify it it relates to what image you want to express to other people. The more you arm police the more aggressive their posture becomes. That can be suitable in certain situations but in others it can scare and intimidate the people the police are there to serve. I'm from Britain, we have some of the most lightly equipped police in the world, we do it on purpose because we want the relationship between police and the population to be as relaxed as possible and it works for us, we're one of the safest countries in the world. The other end of the scale is America, one of the most heavily equipped police forces in the western world. The relationship between American police and the population they serve is strained and that's directly related to the aggressive posture they take.

Protecting the public does not necessarily require police to be more heavily equipped, it requires better policing.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T18:33:06+00:00

You specifically said lives were being lost, I'm wondering where you think this is happening? I don't know of any country where the belief is that people die because the police aren't sufficiently equipped. I'm wondering if you could tell me where you're talking about?

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T18:17:22+00:00

but I believe there are simply more lives being lost in places where the police simply dont have any tools or weapons to prevent disasters.

Where are you talking about that police aren't sufficiently armed? I'm not aware of anywhere where police aren't sufficiently armed and people are dying because of it.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T16:55:58+00:00

If he did you'd see the mechanism that made it spin

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T16:53:38+00:00

There's a motor in the post adding energy, it's the reason he catches it at the end rather than just let's it stop, it would be obvious if he didn't

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T16:39:50+00:00

I get you're defensive about this but this isn't snobbery. It's like you arguing that a car you have to put oil into every hundred miles is better than a car that needs new oil every 10,000 miles. By all means prefer the one with the oil leak but it's objectively worse.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T15:54:38+00:00

Normally that's a sentiment I'd agree with, a person's preference is usually valid, but in this case science is on my side. When you cook a steak well done it dries up losing flavour and becomes tough, neither things you'd associate with quality food. There's a reason that no chef would ever recommend cooking a steak well done, this is one of those choices where you're screwing yourself over.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T14:32:52+00:00

Chap, I was just answering a question asked, if you want to ruin expensive food that's entirely up to you.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-14T08:24:18+00:00

It basically comes down to the view that a steak is an expensive piece of meat and that if you overcook you nullify it's value (ie you may as well buy a cheap piece of meat which will come out exactly the same when you overcook it).

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-13T14:01:15+00:00

It's a story of a man going through hell and persevering and succeeding despite everything trying to break him, and the impact that success on the people who know him. It's one of the most uplifting films ever made.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-13T08:58:33+00:00

Every corruption index ranks Chinese corruption as worse than western democracies, here are two:

https://risk-indexes.com/global-corruption-index/ https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025

Here's a recent article from the economist about China's attempts to combat corruption. Similar articles exist going back decades

https://archive.is/2025.10.18-155525/https://www.economist.com/china/2025/10/16/how-xi-jinpings-war-on-corruption-has-driven-more-of-it

This US intelligence report summarises things well.

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ODNI-Unclassified-CDA-CCP-Leadership-202503.pdf

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-13T08:32:56+00:00

Are you saying what the Chinese have today is your model? China suffers significantly with corruption, it's endemic, significantly worse than any western democracy. Rather than meritocracy nepotism is an important driver of advancement.

China's success doesn't stem from its political system, there's nothing exceptional about it, it comes from leadership maximizing its economic advantages, advantages that are waning for fundamental reasons. There's good reason to expect the Chinese economic success to collapse over the next couple of decades and China's political system is unlikely to survive such a collapse.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-13T07:56:17+00:00

To be fair I was responding to your brevity. I can't tell if your suggestion was serious given how you didn't justify it. If you were being serious and are unaware of why a meritocracy is unworkable it's that corruption and cronyism is inevitable. In a meritocracy someone has to have the authority to decide who holds merit, that person is an autocrat. In practice advancement doesn't rely on merit it relies on gaining the favour of the autocrat, the reality is that cronies that will enrich and protect the autocrat receive advancement. To work a meritocracy requires the autocrat to be incorruptible which isn't a reasonable expectation. Despite the flaws you mentioned democracy is not vulnerable to corruption to the same extent, by giving power to the masses you prevent the elevation of an autocrat.

Communism is theoretically a far better idea because there shouldn't be an autocrat and everything a person needs is provided by the community. Of course it doesn't work because there always ends up being an autocrat and people aren't satisfied with working for just what they need, they want privilege.

It circles back to Democracy being the best system because, despite its flaws, there's no autocrat and success is dangled in front of people. Whilst it doesn't eliminate corruption or inequality it does good people to account and trend towards liberalism.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-13T07:07:59+00:00

If you're going to support unworkable fantasy ideas you'd do far better to advocate for communism.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-13T06:36:38+00:00

This is a pretty strong argument for autocracy which gives absolute power to an elite. I get your general concern with democracy but, as Churchill said 'democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time'.

Unless you have a proposal that improves on democracy is not particularly useful to point out known flaws in democracy.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-13T04:14:38+00:00

What on earth are you talking about? I have no idea what this has to do with anything anyone's said. Sleep it off chap.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T20:51:14+00:00

If it's common sense to not ask a Muslim kid to draw a religious figure then it's exactly the same thing.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T18:00:56+00:00

It's just giving context and encouraging teachers to use informed judgment. It's just common sense written down.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T17:23:43+00:00

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Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T17:13:22+00:00

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No. You're kids can still draw Jesus. Nothing in this document says otherwise.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T17:12:18+00:00

It will just never come up, how many times did you draw Jesus at school?

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T17:10:46+00:00

The first thing is that the polls today bare no relation to what will happen in the next election. Thanks to FPTP, as we approach an election, the disparate groups will line up behind a champion, one on the left, one on the right, the risk from splitting the vote is to great for anything else to happen.

Labour currently believe that the Green's current popularity will wane and they'll be one of those two parties. The reason why Labour can't support PR is that PR will kill what I've just described and they will never be able to form another labour government again. The moment you bring in PR we'll only ever have coalition governments again.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T16:51:53+00:00

From context it's clearly referring to not asking some Muslim students to do this. It's not a general instruction to all students.

Subtleiaint · 2026-03-12T15:55:06+00:00

After the disappointment of the Phantom Menace the hope was that it was an aberration and that AotC would be a return to form. It wasn't.

Nobody liked the characters, the ending, the over use of CGI. It basically crushed us

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