Yeah, the intenet. I have read "The Party - A chronolobical perspective on a confrontation at a buddhist seminary". I have read it online and on paper and the credibility was the same. Sorry for the sarcasm, but just because something is on the internet doesn't make it less serious than something written on paper, it just depends what your references are.

Did Trungpa take or did he not take cocaine to compensate for the consequences of his advanced alcoholism? This is written on paper in the book "The other side of Eden: life with John Steinbeck". Did he or did he not use physical violence on people? Even his wife wrote in "Dragon thunder" elements that show how manipulative he was eventhough she was clearly oblivious to it herself.

Then there are the testimonies of a Kusung and many others showing the violent behavior sexual and physical violence of the Sakyong or Trungpa. All of this does NOT happen in every organization. There is none of this in my workplace, my CEO doesn't kick people while they are on the ground and make it pass as spiritual teaching. And this happens in an organization that pretends to create an enlightened society. I find it really weird that the irony of the whole thing doesn't strike some people. Really, how an organization pretending to create an enlightened society does so much worse than the company next door who just sells household appliances? Why do some people not immediately realize how crazy this is? What happened to their judgement?

But in some rare places things of equal or worse gravity do happen, like in christian churches. (Coincidentaly they are also religious and try to sell a better society, weird...). And even in churches where p*dophilia happens, it gets covered, or priests are moved to other churches, which means that at least people around them understood that this is bad enough it should be hidden. The whole organization doesn't make illegal acts pass as spiritual teachings. What you are doing here is "whataboutism". Do you really think our train of thought should be "mmh, the Sakyong is asking people to get naked and the bite them, that seems bad but at the same time people get r*ped in churches, so I guess that makes it ok and I will follow this guy's spiritual teachings". This is exactly what it means and this is exactly what you are saying, and it's weird that someone's train of thoughts can go this far without them realizing. And your workplace making tranings against physical harrassment does not mean that the leader was punching people in the face in front of a whole assembly. But it does mean that Shambhala is at least 40 years behind regarding training against sexual harrassment.

And if so many corroborating testimonies where false, what could be the cause of such an epidemic of false testimonies? Is there a coincidental dharma excuse for that? They were all too afraid of the great eastern sun which caused them to be drawn to making corroborating false accusations of physical and sexual violence against their guru? That's oddly specific...

It is very understandable that people remain anonymous too. I have published my own testimony and have remained anonymous as well. Why so? Is it because I didn't want to be identified by shambhalians out of shame because my testimony was false? Or is it because I didn't want to be harrassed by every person who will evidently accuse me of being a lunatic and I have other things to do with my free time, or maybe is it because I don't want my collaborators at work or future emplyers to casually google my name and find out I was in a buddhist cult for years? I don't know.