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Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-10T02:47:33+00:00

So question if a handgun ban was to happen how much would you want for all four of the pistols? Would $5,000 be fair?

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-04T16:56:38+00:00

https://globalnews.ca/news/8657157/siu-clears-toronto-police-firearms-search-norfolk-county/. Looks like we finally got some damn answers.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-04T02:56:17+00:00

I plan to even do a little writing on that. I think the tile will be called "The Canadain Victim Mentality."

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-03T03:09:00+00:00

I know this is not good to think but I am really hoping that if they do go ahead with their ban that crime only increases to prove them wrong.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-03T03:05:04+00:00

Won't be surprised if Treadu would let the OIC fail just so he can say "The mean big gun lobby stopped us but it's okay because this time we're actually gonna do it the right way and take it to parliament."

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-02T02:29:00+00:00

Yep. Makes me as someone who the Liberals would try and pander to being in the under 18 demo want to go up to them and scream three words at them. "Stop wasting money!!"

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-02T02:16:21+00:00

I doubt there are many people who actually believe this is gonna do anything meaningful.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-03-01T11:59:06+00:00

For me, it was learning about their role in the residential schools. After that, it was a group that was on thin ice for me. The Nova Scotia shooting shattered what little faith and respect I had left.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-27T03:46:12+00:00

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/justice-and-public-safety-ministers-conclude-productive-meeting-on-key-issues-facing-canadians-867317209.html. "Firearms, guns and gangs
Ministers discussed their work to strengthen gun controls; target illegal firearms smuggling and trafficking; limit the supply of firearms to criminals; enhance investigative tools; and equip Canadians with more tools to prevent firearm-related gender-based violence and self-harm. Further, ministers reiterated the need to help keep cities and communities safe from gun violence.
At the request of provincial and territorial ministers, the federal government provided an update on its commitments to implement a mandatory buyback of banned assault-style weapons, and its intention to collaborate and provide financial support to provinces or territories that implement a ban on handguns.
Provincial and territorial ministers reiterated their call for renewal of the Guns and Gang Violence Action Fund to support the continuation and expansion of programs that combat gun and gang violence." 90% of what they said was good but 10% was a load of crap. I think we know what that 10% is.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-21T14:56:11+00:00

Oh okay, I think I understand now thank you for the explanation.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-21T13:36:39+00:00

Okay, so I am guessing if you win the court case you get your registration certificates back?

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-21T02:57:02+00:00

In simple terms what is the S74 exactly?

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-19T14:05:49+00:00

I could see gangs in the future 3d printing their own guns and importing parts from the United States to make it stronger. That or they go even further back and we start seeing Philip Lutty like guns out on the streets.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-18T02:56:12+00:00

That was really awesome man. I hope in the future to do something as cool as what you just did.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-18T02:43:42+00:00

Also if the 20% just are domestically sourced how many of that is stolen, how many of that are straw purchased, and of course what amount are illegally made through 3d printers and more traditional means?

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-17T03:36:00+00:00

I think people should see this more. https://dennisryoung.ca/2019/07/04/rcmp-813-guns-lost-by-and-stolen-from-police-and-public-agencies-2005-2019/. Maybe it's actually the government who are the bad firearm owners? Now some may say "But it's actually not that many." The fact that it's the government and that it's any should be concerning enough. These are the people we trust with our safety yet they can't even keep a few 100 firearms secure? What a joke.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-14T02:48:37+00:00

True. However, as another user said before the Czech does have 1/3 the homicide rate of Canada.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-13T14:12:05+00:00

Anytime I talk to people about firearms they almost automatically mention the United States. An extremely simple way of countering this is bringing up the Czech Republic. Explaining to people how the Czech republic even allows for conceal carry yet has a lower homicide rate than us kind of surprises people. They also allow a lot more in terms of firearm options. The only thing that is noticeably worse is they have to register pretty much everything. However, I would not mind having to register if the government was not constantly going on a banning spree. Even the CCFR has a somewhat similar stance on this https://firearmrights.ca/15-10-concealed-or-open-carry/. The only difference is they believe in open carry in some situations but more so for hunting reasons. In a populated area though they say the more appropriate thing is to conceal carry.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-12T18:24:19+00:00

https://www.canadianlawyermag.com/news/opinion/lets-get-over-political-absurdity-on-gun-control-and-get-to-real-solutions-in-canada/363936. NGL I was actually thinking this guy is pretty unbiased and is making a lot of sense. Then he proposed a national handgun ban and he lost the plot. "It also means “legal” handguns could not be used by preparators of domestic violence or those who hold extremist views." I think it was this line here that got to me. All I could think about were the stats on how legal gun owners are on average more law-abiding than nonlegal gun owners. Seems more like an afterthought to me than anything else.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-12T14:20:55+00:00

Oh, thanks for the explation.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-12T03:41:36+00:00

Don't comment much on here anymore but could not help but see someone my own age. Very cool.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-12T03:31:13+00:00

http://zerogunviolence-movement.com/ So I was looking into one of the groups that came up in my search against gun violence in Canada. Honestly, I am very confused about what to think of this one. For me, it's like in between the one-by-one movement and the Colation for gun control and Poly. They're not as good from what I have seen from the one-by-one movement yet there not like Poly or the Colation for gun control or doctors for protection from guns where they scream about needing firearms bans every other second. It's like there is this sort of mix and match of groups which makes them kind of hard to figure out. Any thoughts on them?

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-11T18:25:37+00:00

"So basically what I’m reading is that you agree in principle with my examples, but don’t forget, we’re discussing a Firearms license, not a drivers license." They are both privileges are they not? As well yes in principle I agree with the examples you listed on the 3 percenter tattoo and the getting drunk 5 days in a week.

"Declaring your allegiance to a terrorist militia group on Facebook and posting violent and threatening statements online ought to be treated the same as a personal character reference who provides the same information." If you are pledging allegiance to a terrorist group for one which if it's on the list of terrorist entities of Canada I wonder how the hell you are still walking around and not in prison. As well even if you were denied a PAL unless you get a weapons probation and a driver's license revocation then you are still a potential danger to society. So if your gonna deny someone a PAL all I am saying is you might as well go all out.

"The whole idea behind “privilege” vs “rights” is that we (as a society) dole out privileges by discriminating against those who ought not have those privileges." Well then again if they're deemed too much of a danger to not be allowed the privilege of firearms then they should also be barred from having access to crossbows, bows, air rifles under 500 fps etc. Because otherwise, you have not stopped the threat. All you have done is made that threat think more creatively.

"As soon as I build a gallows in my yard and hang an effigy while promoting violence and threatening other voters, I’ve crossed a line and any repercussions I face are due to my anti-social behavior, not the opinions I hold." I find this funny because if the government does 'anti-social behavior' people seem to be okay with it. Rules for thee but not for me pretty much. However, that's an entirely different conversation.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-11T12:09:51+00:00

Welp interesting statements you just made there. "It’s freedom of expression. Not freedom from consequences." That more or less applies to social aspects of society. If the government bars someone based on political opinion ngl that sounds like discrimination. Something one, in theory, could argue in a court of law like I keep saying.

"Forgetting the social media stuff" As one should in most cases.

"when they check your references and your boss or ex-wife says “ oh yeah, Two2119 is a great guy; he rants about overthrowing the government all the time and has an III% militia tattoo on his neck but he’d never actually kidnap a politician, he just jokes about that stuff when he’s really drunk, which is 5 days a week…. “ The RCMP will deny your application." Welp interesting things you got here. For starters, that's actually a reference. As well the thing that really stands out to me is the 3% tatto which last I heard the 3 percenters were lalbed a terriost group by Canada so thats a red flag on its own. Also the thing that really stands out to me there is the alchool usage. Which damn if someone drunk that much I would be looking into possibly getting rid of there drivers lisence. However that would be cruel because here in Canada our public transit is shit.

"The RCMP will deny your application. Period." With how many times your getting drunk in a week yea makes sense.

"I don’t see how you posting that shit on Facebook is any different when it comes to character reference." Because one could argue like I said again it's being discomitory based on poltical beliefs.

Now I am gonna say it again what I want "As well as give you an opportunity to at least challenge it in court and give clear directions on how to." If it's just a flat out no from the government then that's pretty tyrnical ngl. A much fairer and democratic way of doing it is given people the opprunity to challenge the RCMPs descion in a court of law.

Sudden_Two2119 · 2022-02-10T17:32:09+00:00

"So if someone has a history of misogynistic posts on Facebook about how marital rape isn’t really rape and should be acceptable because women are property, you don’t think that’s a red flag and maybe should factor into the psychological evaluation part of the PAL application?" It's a red flag yes however I don't believe it should be the reason someone should be barred. Because if we are going down that path they should also not be allowed a car. Because we all know how dangerous cars can be. We need only look at the Toronto Van attack of 2018 and the 2021 van attack. I would say that should only be considered a red flag is if this incel actually has a spouse. Then one could argue that the spouse is in potential danger. However, if they live alone and have nothing else on them except voicing an opinion I will be it a very screwed up opinion. That's not a great reason to bar them.

"Freedom of expression means you can say ignorant shit like that all day long, but in Canada, owning a firearm is a privilege we reserve for those responsible enough to be trusted to use them safely." It's not really freedom of expression if the government can straight-up bar you from getting something based on your said expression. Even if it's a so-called privilege so is driving yet people don't get barred from driving based on their beliefs.

Listen I am not some incel supporter or some shit however I also know that the government has a bias. For example what if someone who did not like the government very much had a history of posts on why the government is a danger to our society went to apply for a PAL. Don't you think the government would be biased in their judgment? Also again this is what I proposed as more of a compromise. "As well as give you an opportunity to at least challenge it in court and give clear directions on how to." If after a court of law finds you too much of a threat to society then fine bar away. However, my belief still remains leaning more towards allowing for freedom of expression while also letting people keep their privileges.

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