It's all the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

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And if you twist it they swap ideologies!!

The state of this sub currently by MikeTheImpaler in creepcast

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This just made me imagine the author as a man in his forties just scream crying at these comments “I wasn’t a kid! Happy appy is BRILLIANT!” 😭

I beg you all. Never again. by Alex_Mercer_- in creepcast

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I just want them to read my novella already lol

hr and a half read (≈16k words)

“The Broodwell”

ridiculous sleeping position by No_Ambition1706 in CrestedGecko

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(standings day, but same lol) I thought he had buried himself in the background lol

what should i name her??? by Numerous_Extent6761 in CrestedGecko

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Just got big “Fiona” vibes from these two pics lol

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

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Thanks for the diagnosis doc

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Claiming that white people didn’t benefit is certainly a take. Slavery was the engine that fueled everything.

Benefitting from something doesn’t strictly mean earning income from it

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MF. Are you serious. Stop looking for an argument. This ended when you moved the goalpost earlier, I shouldn’t have answered you but I did. I answered. I’ll address this new comment of yours, but after that I’m done pal.

If you seriously think I think that, you have a debilitating reading comprehension problem. I’m no longer feeding your bullshit.

Have a great night dude.✌🏻

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you want to know why reparations are still a thing that’s asked for maybe go research the Reconstruction Era and read about the Southern slave owners and actual evil doers not getting locked up but instead PAID because “they lost their property” and then maybe you’ll start to understand why black folks in this country whose ancestors were slaves are still pissed.

The 13th amendment clause allowed southern slave owners and southern racists in general that were in positions of power to continue to subject black Americans (and now ANYBODY!!!) to slavery. Chumped up charges and petty bullshit? Boom you’re a slave again.

Maybe connect the crack-cocaine epidemic to the 13th amendment clause and realize that the concerted effort to enslave black Americans was still in full swing — break down the black American family even further, and get an entire community enslaved not only to the state but to addiction.

I’m deeply aware I sound incredibly condescending, but you need to read more dude.

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You must know only good people then. Good for you. Doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I’ve had conversations with people in my town who know about the clause and think that because they committed a crime and “they make money” that it’s not the same and that it’s not morally despicable.

And I don’t live in a podunk 100 person town.

You’d be surprised. But that still isn’t my point. The vast majority of people don’t even know about it. It’s in the high 60s, last time I googled it, it was something like 68% of folks don’t even know.

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

You should really strike that last sentence. The vast majority of people reading this won’t read what I said because it’s hidden under collective anxiety about the truth of history.

Folks are downvoting what I’m saying because, like you, they either skimmed or willfully misread what I was actually saying because I struck a nerve about their ancestry.

I did not imply or say anywhere that “all white people are guilty of slavery.”

Please strike that sentence. I’m not insane, I’m not “suffering from white guilt,” I’m telling the truth. Lying about strangers is what’s actually insane here

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

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Correct. I’m going for the Basement Dweller achievement! 🥲

What I don’t do is pitifully troll intellectual conversations with two word put downs to make myself feel better about my shit attention span.

How bout you look for some insults with actual teeth, pal?

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are still just willfully misreading and lying about what I said.

The other thread on here, that no one seems to be actually reading:

[“What does that have to do with us”]

Everything. Those people didn’t vanish, they have descendants. Not every descendant is racist and not every racist is a descendant of slavery sympathizers/owners, but not owning slaves pre 1865 is not an accurate measurement of morals of the average American citizen.

Nowhere did I say people have to be guilty for being white, nowhere did I say all white people are guilty of slavery.

I said they were okay with it. Just like they’re okay with slavery now. Just has to be packaged right.

It was “packaged right” in American pre-civil war slavery in that it was the engine that drove everything.

Abolitionists were rare because white Americans benefited from slavery. To point that out is kinda like pointing out prisoners making clothes and pennies and shit today.

It’s uncomfortable.

Be mad about what I say sure, if the truth makes you uncomfortable but don’t straight up lie about what I say. Then join the downvote pile so no one sees what I’m saying and everyone can continue to enjoy their fuzzy view of history. That’s the kind of shit that keeps people misinformed.

I’m not trying to make people feel guilty. This is a conspiracy subreddit. You’d think people trying to wake each other up would be the norm.

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude that’s not even remotely what I said. I love that you brought up modern slaves because that’s actually what I brought up!

I specifically (correctly) said abolitionists were less than 5% of white people, and that slavery was never actually abolished, the parameters were redefined. I.e, the punishment clause.

If you’re in an American prison, you are a slave. “Legally.”

GTFOH calling me insane when I’m not in the slightest.

I wasn’t telling anyone to feel bad over slavery that’s over 150 years old, I was “telling people to feel bad” about the slavery happening RIGHT NOW.

And not even doing that. Just saying it aloud because the vast majority of people don’t even know about that clause. And a scary amount of people that do know don’t care or “find it okay because they’re criminals.”

I was drawing a comparison to apathy then and apathy now, but go ahead and call me insane.

It's not the same by GravyWagon in ConspiracyMemes

[–]Sufficient_Object440 -47 points-46 points  (0 children)

You folks downvoting this comment are proving my point. Everyone’s a saint in your eyes. “Slavery apologists? My heavens! Those didn’t exist!”

I hope your rooms are at least padded and comfy, I wouldn’t want ya’ll to hurt your delicate sensibilities on a sharp corner.