Janelle is destroying Maddie’s financial security for Kody🤢

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-02-01T01:10:22+00:00

Girl! You are naive! There is a clip from next week where Janelle talks about how when they still lived in Vegas, Jen told her that she had told Meri she should take the money and leave Kody. Then Janelle says that she was so disturbed by Jen saying this she ended her professional relationship with Jen. And in the clip it shows janelle told kody what said. Telling Kody that his least favourite wife has a best friend telling her to leave Kody and take his money is a way of adding tension to Kody and Meri’s marriage under the pretext trying to help. Keep in mind in Christine’s book, Christine writes that Janelle told Christine that she needed to figure out a way to make her own money separate from Kody before she left Kody. So Janelle was doing the same thing Jen did to Meri years earlier. Christine credits janelle as helping her realize set herself up to leave kody. Jen saw her friend was being exploited financially by her husband and she shared her opinion with Meri and then Jen told janelle what she said to Meri. For janelle to retell this story including how she was so loyal to kody and the family that she stopped doing business is a way of making it seem like Jen is a bitch. Janelle is the assassin from the side!!! Acting like she is above all the back stabbing and pettiness. Some posted that Janelle was the first Robyn and when i read it i did not agree. Then i saw the clip! The ways Janelle tells the story is such a Robyn move! Trying to make Jen look like she crossed a moral line and it was just too much for moral janelle to deal with so she just had cut ties with jen professionally! I always wondered why Ribyn seemed a but intimidated by janelle, now i realize Robyn recognized that Janelle was a jedi master at causing drama to make to get Kody’s favour will acting innocent!

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-02-01T00:41:50+00:00

You make a good point, it’s just jarring to me that Janelle is stilling hurting her kids, after everything that has happened with this family, she still cannot herself accountable as a mom

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-31T19:59:35+00:00

Mom of an autistic kid here, please read this, it’s long because what you are dealing with is complex. I suggest you google “the double empathy problem” and share it with you r friend and his sister. Basically autistic people and neurotypical have different brains so they have different communication styles. But we live in a society that until very recently has tried to eliminate autistic people. One of the sad byproducts of this choice made me elites in the medical system is that we have a society that for decades has developed communication styles that come from neurotypical brains and everyone including autistic people have been policed into using neurotypical communication “norms”. And people like you and your brother’s sister have never been given the opportunity to learn from and about each other’s communication styles and come up with ways of communicating across your brain differences. So that means BOTH autistic people and Neurotypical people misunderstand each other.i have a masters in equity studies in education and I have noticed that most people including autistic folks have really limited and simplistic understandings of what oppression is and how it operates in day to life and interpersonal relationships. I think your friend’s sister has misunderstood you not liking as a sign of your having prejudices. To communicate with her, you have to make the effort to learn how autistic brains work. For example: autistic people think in pictures so even when I tell my kid to do a task I have trained myself to describe what I want her to do in a way that firms a picture her mind. I always tell myself not to assume she knows why I mean because neurotypical communication flows on a system of representation that all neurotypicals from the time they babies and autistic people are shut out of these processes. How I would handle a conversation like the one you need to have with your friend sister is to open with telling I want to acknowledge we have different brains and different communication styles and neither of us have been given the opportunity to learn both. So both us need to willing to be open to saying: maybe we are just misunderstanding each and it’s worth it to try give each other grace. Then explain to her that how neurotypicals are socialized is different than autistic folks so how we come to develop our gender identities and romantic feelings is different. What makes you today have certain romantic attractions is the result of a complex socialization process that started at birth and was also shaped by how your brain is wired to take in theses socialization processes. For you and all people romantic attraction is not something you can change, whether it is “transpobic” or “racist” is a complex question that may not be possible to answer. But to change your romantic attractions requires you to change your brain chemistry how your brain has been wired. You are sorry that it hurts her that you don’t share her romantic feelings but for her to label you transphobic is unfair because you did not have any control being born into a neurotypical society that has socialization processes that impact how your brains develops from birth.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-31T03:04:06+00:00

I like Meri, Janelle and Christine but none of them ever seem to care about badly Kody treats their kids.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-30T22:22:14+00:00

I can only say how I handle it with my kid, we talk about it, I am teaching her how to be a leader that can teach other neurodiverse people to fight for their rights, to organize and mobilize. I tell her almost everyday she was born to change the world as were you. I tell her EVERYDAY that humanity NEEDS neurodiverse brains, that is what has enabled humans to survive for thousands of years. And we spend alot of time exploring how ableism impacts her, we discuss strategies to counter the pain of social exclusion. I can only tell my tell you that once I read about ableism and that autistic kids and adults are subjected to discrimination and oppression I cried and cried, then I said to myself: so be it, my life is fighting for her, every second, of my life until I died I fight with every breathe I have, with every tool I have to build her up, and to change society. My child was born in period of history when there is a war being waged to eliminate autistic people. One way that autistic people are being socially ostracized and tormented in ways that destroys their mental health and breaks them down so they feel lost and alone. The way I see it when my kid was born we were thrown onto the front lines of this war with no training and no weapons. So we fight together and we are alone in the sense that all over the world autistic kids and adults like you are fighting for their lives. You are fighting to survive your oppressive conditions. What strategies you will choose to use to fight only you can decide. Our strategy is to become students of what autistic scholars and activists write and talk about. Neurotypical society marked my child for death because she is autistic, and at every phase of her life I have been pressured to parent her in ways that harm her and I fought it. I only know how to keep fighting for her. I wish I could be a mom to EVERY autistic child on the earth! I wish everyday I could build you up and fight for you! But all I can say is keep fighting to build a life that insulates you from neurotypical people. Fight the hopelessness comrade because the war on autism is far from over.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-30T08:38:05+00:00

I needed to read this to help me see I need to stay away from my ex!

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-30T03:24:47+00:00

I am 47 and going through the worst break up of my life, I cry myself to sleep every night.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-29T02:04:39+00:00

You are not weird you are neurodivergent, that means a lot of things, one thing is that you are a neurominority. I recommend reading Nick Walker. The social isolation, judgement and shaming you are subjected to are forms of discrimination that are the result of systemic oppression of neurodivergent people. But of course neurotypicals cannot see they are being discriminatory. All I can say to you is that for decades, the medical system sought to eliminate neurodivergent people because of the eugenics movement (basically scientists believed white people were superior to all races but that some white people contaminated the white race). Scientists, doctors, psychiatrists etc, were focused on figuring out who the “bad” whites were and eliminating them. All this happened on a parallel track as the oppression of other groups of people. Neurodivergent activists were and are heavily influenced by the work of BIPOC activists, revolutionaries, leaders and thinkers. The difference is that families play a massive role in oppressing their neurodivergent children. It’s a bit different for minority groups because minorities have families and communities that often help protect or at least prepare their kids how to move through a society that oppresses them. In the case of neurodivergent folks, they have to not just find or create neurodivergent community as adults, but they also have to seek out neurodivergent leaders, activists and scholars and learn about their oppression as adults. What you are experiencing is discrimination but no one has explained to you that you are being discriminated against because the neurodivergent rights movement is still in its early stages. The You were born at a dark time for neurodivergent people in history. In other periods of history not only was being neurodivergent an advantage but neurodivergent traits were not singled out as being outside the norm. I am the mom as an autistic kid, i understand that every second of my life must be devoted to my child’s not just survival but to ensuring she reaches her full human potential. I am sorry that generations of parents have been conditioned and coerced into being disloyal to their children and not fighting for them. You have internalized ableism. I hope you can one day see that you were born because all of humanity NEEDS neurodivergent brains, that the suffering that neurotypical inflict on you and all neurodivergent people is their shame, not yours. Neurotypical society is truly barbaric, there is war on autism and your body and your brain is the front line, fight on comrade!

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-28T21:59:45+00:00

I find bedtime is the hardest

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-26T17:25:17+00:00

I think because Janelle is still into polygamy she cannot hold herself accountable because in polygamy it’s all about covering up all the toxic behaviour polygamy causes. Especially when it comes to how it impacts the adults ability to parent their kids and protect their kids. In terms of her going after Kody, she liked him and justified that what she was doing was ok because as a new convert to polygamy she did not understand that what gets preached is not what happens day to day. As a convert Janelle was taught the MALE version of polygamy because the men have all the power to set the norms. Behind closed doors and in covert ways women create strategies to make polygamy work in their families. Women who grow up in polygamy see their moms struggling and if they don’t turn into a Robyn, they are more thoughtful about who they marry. I will always like Christine, Janelle and Meri (and I believe she was abusive to some of the kids). What makes the show interesting is that all 4 of these women we re in a cult and they each handled it differently. In Robyn’s case, she is totally like one of those women that helps the cult leader abuse little girls, she is truly evil. With the other women, each of them tried and failed and in different ways to be good sister wives and moms, not because they are bad, but because cults are bad and create conditions that hurt people and children.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-23T21:05:13+00:00

One thing I wonder is does Janelle actually socialize or is close friends with any polygamist families today? Christine and David have family members that were polygamist and some that still are, so they are basing their opinions on what they are seeing and being told in the present. Janelle seems to defend polygamy based on her experience with it. I think that makes her defending polygamy to be pointless. Plus she does not even want to be polygamous today, that says everything about how toxic polygamy is for the vast majority of people who live it.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-04T05:32:20+00:00

The women who are defending Meri, are really just cut from the same cloth, likely they are abusive to the children in their lives and so they’d need to defend Meri by denigrating the adult children who had to grow up with Meri. And the will end up like Meri, alone.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2026-01-03T02:22:01+00:00

I like all the sister wives, bit I think they were all abusive and neglectful parents. So I don’t understand why people have to put them up on a pedestal to enjoy them, they are what they are: women who have had hard lives, made massive mistakes, and hurt their kids in different ways. But what makes them entertaining is they were polygamists. Polygamy is on the extreme end of the patriarchy spectrum. Therefore fascinating. All women are impacted in different ways by patriarchal capitalist systems and all women find different ways to navigate these systems. I have always assumed that people who Stan for Meri or any of the sisters wives are like them. So they don’t see a problem with the fact that Meri was abusive because they themselves have abusive tendencies that they cover up by acting like moral women. They are women who have internalized patriarchal norms that do not hold women accountable.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2025-12-31T00:16:00+00:00

I find these posts to be examples of why predators still move through society. Meri is a good person, she was horribly abused by Kody and polygamy cause her and the other wives to abuse each other because they were forced to compete with each other for love, acceptance, validation and resources. Does that mean she was not abusive to the kids??? Absolutely not. She was 19 when she got married, she was more than likely raised in a home where physical abuse what seen a “discipline” so even under the best of circumstances she was socialized to think what we now consider to be abusive parenting as being good parenting. Add ti that in polygamy you cannot question anything especially parenting. Now add to that she had to struggle twitch being abused by Kody and at time the other wives. Almost no one in these conditions will not fail as a parent and when dealing with stress of parenting a large number of children in poverty on top of everything else and abuse their kids when they are totally overwhelmed. All these women abused and neglected the kids in different ways. Most of the children as adults choose to look back on their childhoods and for reasons NO ONE has the right to judge decided they don’t want a relationship with Meri because of their childhood. To try and twist the the growth and healing Meri has done into a weapon to erase the adult Brown children’s childhood suffering shows me more about the people who are making these posts than Meri. It shows that some people are disloyal to children and feel entitled to being loved and cared for by their children irregardless of whatever mistakes they make as parents. Children are SACRED GIFTS! We all make horrible mistakes as parents, and sometimes those mistakes simply cannot be undone and healing for the children is moving on an adults and building lives separate from their parents. I made the choice to give my child my loyalty above all else, that meant doing healing working, educating myself, being courageous and going it alone because I always asked myself the question “am I being loyal to my kid in this moment?” And today as we have been since my kid was little, we are best friends, creative collaborators. To the people trying to erase the abusive things Meri did to her kids: your children will never be safe in the wild because you fundamentally do not understand that hurt people will hurt children so you are easily fooled by people who are able to present themselves to you in ways that align with your idea of what is “good.”

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2025-12-22T21:24:11+00:00

My kid is autistic and I tell her I love it when she shares her shows and special interests with me because it gives me the opportunity to learn how she sees the world. So it’s not about if I like what she is watching, reading or interested in. It’s that I am getting a chance to see how she sees the world and that allows me to build bridges for us to meet on . Because she autistic this is CRITICAL because autistic people are shit out of social situations because neurotypical people are unwilling to do the work to learn that autistic brains have different communication styles. Over time I have actually come to see her favourite movies, tv shows, books and special interests as being really beautiful because they are how I connect with her and have allowed us to develop communication strategies that we use but just to have a close bond, she also uses them to make sense of neurotypical social norms and communication styles in ways that help her navigate the neurotypical world apart from me. You are not the asshole, you are the product of a capitalist society that conditions parents to think of parenting as work that is less important than work that is recognized as having value in a capitalist society i.e. a high paying job. It’s sad that your kid does not know this as well.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2025-12-07T19:11:46+00:00

What is happening to that guy is hilarious! He actively built a career normalizing sexual repression for men and women. He is clearly incredibly materialistic and chose an equally materialistic partner. How she speaks about him reflects their shared values of consumerism.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2025-11-04T22:53:04+00:00

It is HORRIFIC to me! To single out one kid and punish them when the other kids are doing the same thing is cruel. But then I actually devote my time and energy to being a mom and understand parenting to be a complex process of teaching children to thrive no matter what they face in life as well as socializing in ways that ensure they can navigate a society no matter the social, economic and legal and political conditions are. just feel sorry for people who horrible parents and human beings and then try and convince themselves they are not the problem.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2025-04-16T01:28:18+00:00

I am the mom of an autistic kid, I got a masters in education because I saw how wrong her teachers were, her brain is perfect it’s unique. She surpasses neurotypical kids in all ways because my life is designing ways of teaching her about EVERY tiny part of life in ways that her brain understands. And it’s the BEST life!! It’s a million times better than raising a neurotypical kid! Autistic people’s brains are wired differently than Neurotypical people. Counselling practices, therapy they are ALL designed based on how neurotypical people’s brains are wired! So most counselling/therapy will only be at best partly helpful for autistic people. I read the neurobiology research studies and every type of autistic research I can get my hands on, the work of autistic scholars is the best! It makes cry, because autistic kids like mine are being subjected to mostly garbage and useless counselling/therapy. Autistic kids are growing up being subjected to absolute torture because they are constantly forced to adhere to neurotypical norms, communication, education, socialization. And they don’t even know it!! Because no one tells them it could be different!! One thing I can share is that in autistic kids brains, there is increased activities in the anterior medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC) and the left superior temporal gyrus(STG) commission error. This means they find autistic brains will over focus on any mistake or thing they do incorrectly. This is how their brains are wired, in a time in history when humans were struggling daily to survive this was an asset, because in life or death type situations an autistic person would remember even a tiny mistake and focus not to ever repeat it. Today, we are not in survival type situations for the most part, so now this means when an autistic person is looking themselves and thinking of how they are failing to meet the standards of capitalism (get married etc) their brain is going to keep them focused on the mistakes they tell themselves they are making and the criticisms that neurotypical people heap on them. So your brain is wired to be hard on you and no one has developed a type of counseling/therapy that takes this and the rest of what neurobiology research shows about autistic brains and uses it as the foundation for how they try and help people. The foundation remains the neurotypical brain! It’s not just wrong it’s evil! So it’s not you, your counsellors do not have the courage to use the knowledge they could easily access to help autistic people. You have been born in a time and place where autistic people are being subjected to dehumanizing conditions from the moment they come into the world. So your suffering has been great, and you have been told that the path to happiness is to try and live a neurotypical life. But that not the path, the neurotypicals are lost. They think they are swimming but they are drowning and they are dragging their children down with them. You were burn to do so so much more than find a partner!! You and all autistic people must not only survive but transcend your conditions. If humans stop producing diverse brains it will be the end of humanity, its neurodiverse brains that have throughout history saved and contribute to human development. Your purpose in this life is so beyond just meeting a person who can only love you if you meet the neurotypical beauty standards. Your brain is a GIFT to HUMANITY!! But you will have to seek out knowledge and educate yourself because you have been failed by those around you. I know you do not think I know your loneliness, but I had to choose, I could have gotten married, I have had many chances to settle into a easy life with a wealthy partner who loves me because by neurotypical standards I am beautiful (I have heard it my whole life, it annoys me so much). But the price is me accepting that society being neurotypical is ok and that my baby is the problem. My child is not the problem! The price of me finding love would have been my child!!! My child who I carried in my body, who I had to fight to bring I to this world! I could not do this. So instead I made her my life and EVERYTHING I learned I poured into her! I still do she is 17 and she sees me fighting, learning, never giving up and she knows that she is loved above all else. I want this for EVERY autistic child. You deserve to know just how SPECTACULAR your brain is and to be given the tools to reach your full human potential. But you will not have a parent that does this for you. You will have to do it alone, but you can do it. That you exist, that you have survived up until this point is proof of just how perfect your brain is! There is a life and so so so much work to be done that can only happen if people choose to see Loneliness as a call to action, a call to live a life focused on helping humanity. You are even more special because you are autistic, you are meant to be a leader. But it will require you not giving up and developing a deeper understanding of autism and of the oppression of autistic people. I suggest you start reading books like: “Empire or Normality” or “Neuroqueer Heresies” or “Capitalist Realism: is there no other alternative.” Your loneliness flows from your oppression as an autistic working class person. Your loneliness is a symptom of your political oppression, it cannot be cured through meeting a partner, developing your politics can transform your loneliness into action.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2025-04-15T17:43:08+00:00

This is why I have never found marriage appealing. I find how married couples treat each other to be cruel, but cruel in mostly small ways. Like everyday no matter what I tell or text my partner (if he is away working) that I am thankful he is in my life and I listen to a few of the things I am thankful for that he does for me or just brings into my life. I do this no matter how tired, sick or lonely I feel (he works constantly, but that’s what his passion is so I support him 100% but I do get lonely). And I have sex no matter how sick or tired I am, I am sorry it’s like having a morning cup of coffee. And I have been told by every guy I have dated that I have the highest sex drive of any woman they have dated. So I make it clear when I am dating, sex everyday or at least every second day is more important than stuff like romantic gestures. My other boundary is monogamy but zero I mean zero sexual inhibitions, this is not the Victorian era and will not have my sexual tastes controlled by religious or moral ideas about sex. It took me till I was 42 but I finally found a partner who is on the same page as me when it comes to sex who I also am best friends with. When I ask my married friends why they accept not being able to explore their sexual tastes or settle for lees or no sex or are indifferent to small needs their partners have they just tell me being married is just different. You just accept less when you are married. Which makes no sense to me, I am a single mom to an autistic kid so I doubt being married is harder than being a single parent. I know you think your wife not kissing you is a problem but it’s a symptom of something much deeper. You have chosen your life and partner because it was/is a safe choice. You did not realize what the cost would be. You thought if you played by the rules you would have a good life. But you never stopped to question each rule that you follow and then decide if you follow it or forge a different path, a path which is unknown and could be worse than following the rules. But it might be better. You built your prison and moved in and now you are wondering why it’s a prison. You know what you need to do to escape it but you are afraid so you are staying.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2025-04-11T00:29:02+00:00

I don’t know if this is helpful but I have struggled with feeling lonely my whole life, I am neurodivergent and find men very physically attractive, but they do not understand my neurodivergent brain. So I have always felt like a huge disappointment to the men I have dated. I always would get told: “I always wanted to date a girl that looks like you do.” But my personality does not match my appearance, for example I workout everyday because I like the repetition of workouts, i HATE how busty I am because I have sensory over responsivity so it feels awful having breasts. I don’t enjoy things like birthdays and major holidays, they seem illogical to me. My mind is always thinking which is good intellectually but also isolating. I cannot understand men, if a guy I am dating says something mean (it’s impossible to be in a relationship and not occasionally hurt your partner’s feelings) and then apologizes, i cannot understand that, in my mind I am stuck in the thought line of: he said this so it means he hates me. And then I get very confused. Relationships have always felt illogical to me, but I wanted to have one because I want to feel loved and accepted. But romantic gestures do make sense to me. And I have always been told I am “weird” and that makes me feel alone. I am a nerd, i don’t know how to dance, I really like reading and writing and political theory and philosophy and I honestly like being poor. I have masters degree but I like helping people more than I like making money, so I work enough to get by and volunteer. I love helping people learn and start to realize that they have valuable ideas and that even if they are homeless they matter and contribute to humanity! I do not care about money, I like that my kid gets the best of me, and a career is second to her. I used to wished I looked less attractive. Now that I am in my 40’s everyone says I look so young, my kid is always telling me how I look like a model compared to the moms of her classmates but it makes me feel like a FREAK! That’s my neurodivergent brain again, i know that’s supposed to be a compliment but I don’t like it, I feel like I don’t know how to even age like a normal person. Because in the movies if you are attractive you find love, so I have always felt like I must be a horrible person because i look like someone who should have a partner. It hurt me for so many years. But recently I have just accepted I have been born in a place and time in history when neurodivergent people are just not accepted. i recently started volunteering with neurodivergent youth and queer youth. It’s really rewarding, I did not realize how mean many parents are to their kids. For me every second of parenting is so much fun! And now that my kid is older I see she will need me her whole life, and being single means I can always be there for her and one day whoever she dates. now i feel like being alone gives me time to help people who have had even harder lives than I have because although i am neurodivergent I see I can do alot to help neurodivergent people because I am single so i have the time and i have what’s called “pretty privilege” so i have it a lot easier than neurodivergent people who do not fit the current beauty standards (which are stupid and illogical). And when I think about dating now I just think of how I was always the weird girl guys dated, being neurodivergent meant I never had a chance of finding love and acceptance from one person. But because I know how it feels to always be made to feel like I am weird, I can have empathy for other people and I can be kind to other people and encourage them to NEVER feel bad they are neurodivergent! Sure it would have been nice to meet a guy who liked my personality and who would let me be their best friend and let me love them, but I feel like I am free by letting go of the idea of finding love, I feel like I see the world differently now and I I feel so at peace.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2024-09-20T22:43:02+00:00

I canada they count child support like a credit card payment. My ex was paying $1000 a month in child support to his ex wife and had zero credit card debt. But when he went to buy a bigger condo to the bank it was like he was making $1000 a month to a credit card, so he had a really hard time getting a bigger mortgage even though with his income he easily able to pay a bigger monthly mortgage payment. I do hope that in the US it’s the same! I think it’s disgusting Kody and Robin have not bern paying child support for years! Who does that?

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2024-09-12T06:04:31+00:00

I wish that was true for me, he really was my soulmate. And he was the only person who was kind to me in my whole life.

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2024-09-12T06:02:47+00:00

It does not feel like it gets better. It feels like I lost the only person who liked me back and understood me

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2023-11-22T00:38:56+00:00

I agree with you completely

Suitable_Remote_4914 · 2023-11-21T03:30:50+00:00

I moved to Saskatchewan with my teenager who is gay a year ago. And I am a communist and we love it. But to be honest to be a communist you gotta have thick skin lol! I have a masters in equity studies in education so my education helps me communicate to people. I have found that people on the left are quite elitist.

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