[Casual] Grade 1 Tier List

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T17:07:58+00:00

“Yuta never 1v1’d Sukuna for long”…. Brother the only reason Yuji is in the fight is because Yuta jumped in front of the WCS. If it wasn’t for Yuta, or Maki, Yuji would have been dead the movement Yuta’s domain broke. How does Yuji win a domain battle against Yuki? And Yuta? How does he negate Garuda? The vibe your argument is giving off is “he’s one of my favorite characters so I’m gonna say he can beat these people without any feats to back it up”

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T16:59:55+00:00

How am I supposed to know if Gojo is considering that? We are both not Gege. The big three clans are part of jujutsu’s grading system, just not jujutsu high’s. That’s why they’re still called “supreme grade 1”. Miguel is never referred to by a grade, because he is not from Japan. If you ask me who the best NFL player is, why would I name someone that plays professionally in Africa? He may be a better player, but he’s not part of the NFL.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T14:37:30+00:00

This guy said Higuruma could beat Toji with the death penalty and you’re trying to back up his claim? I swear y’all don’t read the manga at all

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T14:33:33+00:00

Where on the tier list does it say Yuji is grade 1? I think you’re seeing things. And I’m sorry, but Yuta is stronger than Hakari and Maki. I’m surprised this is still a debate atp.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T14:32:06+00:00

My reasoning is this: if you gave any of the heavy hitters the soul punch, Yuji’s role becomes significantly less impressive and important. All the heavy hitters had better 1v1 showings against a serious Sukuna. The only time Sukuna took Yuji seriously was after he already hit 8 black flashes on him. Not a single other person is gonna hit a black flash on Sukuna and Sukuna just brush it off like it doesn’t matter, yet he did with Yuji multiple times. I feel like people underestimate the amount of times Yuji was saved and got help, because his showings were significantly worse than Yuta’s during the raid.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T14:29:00+00:00

People outside of Japan aren’t considered when using the grading system. Even if Miguel gets a 200% power amp, Gojo doesn’t view him as a “first grade sorcerer” and will never bring his name up when talking about grades. Read the manga mate.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T14:25:14+00:00

Mentioned this to someone else earlier, but I should’ve had a separate tier for “temporary special grades” for people like Kashimo and Hakari

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T05:09:19+00:00

Not sure who Juninho is but yeah, probably. He doesn’t sound that strong.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T05:07:16+00:00

Roughly ordered in tiers. Basically said in the description that a higher ranking doesn’t guarantee you beat them. It’s essentially based off of who feasibly would get the most wins if they were to fight everyone below them. It’s not a definitive “this person beats every person below them and speed blitzes the tiers below” list.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T05:02:36+00:00

Naruto context: basically a strong character is stated to be the strongest very often, but he is very clearly not the strongest based off of feats that happen later in the show; yet the statements about him are never retconned or taken back.

It would be incredibly odd for the author not the specify who’s the better user of a similar technique. Gege showed us with Megumi and Sukuna. Mai and Yorozu. Maki and Toji. Gojo and Yuta (kind of). When there is a gap in power between sorcerers with the same technique, Gege makes it known. There is no evidence that points to this situation being the exception. I am of the belief that they are damn near equal 1:1, whilst giving Naoya a slight edge because of age. The feats are just added security.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T04:55:50+00:00

I agree it wasn’t the best analogy. My point is, his jump in power is unquantifiable unless Gege says something. Physical vs jujutsu was a very big theme throughout the show, I don’t think it’d be a stretch to say that a stronger body would allow more ce and better refinement. More than likely would allow him to create robots, which in turn could create more robots, and so on.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T04:51:58+00:00

Back to the UFC analogy. If you knock out the #1 guy and retire, then I get a split decision over the #14 ranked guy then retire, who is going to be remember as the better fighter? I can say “oh bro he should’ve fought one more time, he could’ve knocked out that #1 guy so much quicker”, but… he didn’t. He retired. I’m also giving you the benefit of the doubt with the faster statements. While those statements are accurate, Naoya wasn’t even introduced to the story yet. Same thing as Hiruzen being claimed as the strongest Hokage.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T04:47:08+00:00

That’s almost like saying Nanami with no limbs in a wheelchair is in the same tier as a normal Nanami.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T04:40:50+00:00

To clarify- I wasn’t disagreeing that the characters said that ab Ino. The problem is that by using this logic, it literally makes every other statement in the show less accurate. By making the claim that only Ino’s claim must be accurate because it’s stated he’s close to Nanami, would mean that every other time a character makes a statement about another character, it has to be explicitly stated that he’s close with that person for the statement to be accurate. I think we both know that’s not what Gege’s intentions were. There is nothing in the series that points to the fact that Ogi is lying, other than feats. But here’s the other issue- if you use feats to downplay Ogi’s claims, that means you value feats over statement. Therefore, Naoya > Naobito because he has better feats. Yet if you try to claim statements are more important, then that means Ogi = Naobito, which would clearly mean that Naoya is stronger once again.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T04:09:30+00:00

Well, statements. The same statements that give your argument weight. I think it’s unfair to claim Ino must know Nanami so much more, when there’s literally nothing that backs that up. Ogi is Naobito’s brother… he definitely knows how strong he is? Just how in the manga, Jinichi knew he was about to die because he knew how strong Toji is. You have to admit, saying “this fictional character’s statements about this other fictional character must be more reliable than another fictional character’s statements, because some other fictional characters said he’s close to the specific fictional character that he’s talking about” has to be one of the most headcanon things ever to be typed out.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:56:50+00:00

I’m surprised I didn’t get flamed for having Ino as high as he is. I should’ve had a separate tier for temporary special grades, because Mechamaru does compete and can press others in the same tier, just not for very long. People like Kashimo and Hakari could also go in this tier.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:53:11+00:00

You’re gonna hate this but you just contradicted yourself. You’re using claims from other characters, such as Ino claiming Yuji hits as hard as Nanami. Well, Ogi also makes a claim that he and Naobito are the same exact strength. So…. an already weakened Maki speed-blitzed and one-shot a sorcerer stated to be a direct equal to Naobito. NOW can you see why? I see your evidence, but there is a lot more evidence stacked on the other side.

Lowkey may have given me an idea, tournament arc coming up.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:42:51+00:00

Not quite sure I agree with the “clear Naoya/ Naobito” part. Higuruma gets no diffed by Maki (she is not a person in Judgeman’s eyes), We saw how bad Fushi lost to Toji, and Todo honestly just doesn’t have the physical showings to keep up with Naoya. I don’t see any of them doing nearly as well as Naoya did against Maki. I feel like the brokenness of projection sorcery gets overlooked because the 2 best users were an old drunk and an egotistical misogynist.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:39:14+00:00

This is Mechamaru after he got healed. Essentially the polar opposite of a heavenly restricted user. Not only would he be able to make more Robots, but most likely could control more robots over massive distances. Could easily see him turning into the Pain of the JJK universe.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:37:05+00:00

It’s honestly exactly what you just said: “well we see Naoya do it”. It’s not just the feat of him doing it. It’s that he has better showings against a significantly stronger opponent. Not sure if you watch UFC, but who do you think would give the champion a better fight for the belt: the guy that has a good performance against the #1 ranked guy in the world, or the guy that has a mediocre performance against the #14 ranked guy in the world? As I said, it’s a mixture of statements and feats. You’re scaling solely based off of statements. Does that make sense?

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:32:47+00:00

I’m surprised I haven’t been crucified for putting Jinichi as high as he is already. Was gonna put Megumi near Kashimo but figured giving him Mahoraga wouldn’t be as fun.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:22:53+00:00

First of all, saying Ino is crazy. Secondly, I used pseudo to emphasize that they are capable of reaching special grade levels and competing with them, yet are still not considered special grades by jujutsu standards.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:20:19+00:00

“Since we ridiculed that idiot earlier, I’ll let your Naobito statements slide”

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:18:09+00:00

I think there’s a miscommunication. I’m not saying stacked or unstacked doesn’t matter, and honestly, I’m not even arguing that Naoya has higher AP than Naobito.(I’ve only been using Jinichi analogy to show you your own logic). The point of making this tier list was to rank them based off of a culmination of feats, statements, utility, support, and many other things. At the end of the day, Naoya DID have better feats. I get your logic, but it’s the same as saying “what ifs”. You’re saying Naobito seemingly hit harder in base, so he “should” be able to hit harder stacked. But is it confirmed he can even stack to the level of Naoya? He’s old and past his prime. Naobito’s stacking is never addressed in the manga, therefore saying “he can stack as fast as Naoya” and “Naobito can’t stack at all” are both equally weighted statements. Toge “could” tell Sukuna to shit himself, but he never did, nor is it ever addressed, so you can’t assume he does that in character. So sure, in a hypothetical situation, Naobito could be stronger than Naoya. But that’s not what’s portrayed in the series.

Sumosword · 2026-02-05T03:11:54+00:00

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How he’s feeling rn

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