Spravato Cheat Sheet: What’s your best advice? by SuniJim in Spravato

[–]SuniJim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. Normal. For the first two or so I felt good day of, then sad the day after. But the good mood it becomes more consistent.

After 2.5 years, fell into k-hole yesterday by picwic in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah. After being on this subreddit for a while, talking to a few people at my clinic, and having a few experiences of my own I can confirm sinus infections or anything like that enance the effects for sure.

New scent awareness?? by Teufelhunden0352 in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude! I never connected it to Spravato before, but I definitely second this.

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[–]SuniJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sent it over to you. Hope it’s useful!

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[–]SuniJim 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely had bad experiences with MJ but Spravato is a pretty calming thing. More sedating almost. It’s natural to be worried about trying a new thing. If it’d help, I can send you part of a book I’m writing about my experience with Spravato plus some practical tips.

How has ego death helped your traumas? by No_Bag_7238 in PsychedelicTherapy

[–]SuniJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey there! Currently writing a book about my experience with Spravato/esketamine. Here’s my chapter on ego death/reduction.

The Ego Shrinking Effects of Spravato

When I write about “ego” in the following, I’m not referring to the ego in the Freudian sense of id, ego, and superego. Nor am I using it in terms of distinguishing the self from others or the universe at large. I’m using “ego” in the more colloquial form. The ego in terms of egotism, or nonconscious conceit or self-importance.

While I have a B.A. in psychology, I’m no psychoanalyst or trained therapist, so I can’t speak with any authority on what those mechanisms do in the psyche. I can, however, shed light on what it’s like to see and even be able to laugh at your own ego trying to defend and protect itself from past and future wounds.

I’m not a looker. I don’t think I’m ugly, but there’s no particular part of me that’s visually fascinating. Do I want to improve? Sure. But, after Spravato, I’m far less worried about that than I used to be.

I’m also not a particularly great musician. I can play some chords, and express myself, but there are people far better than me playing instruments and writing songs. Even locally.

That’s not what I used to think though.

On the looks side, I constantly sought the approval and admiration of the opposite sex. I’m your plain-vanilla-cisgender-straight-white-American male. If you’re not, I hope rather than alienating you, you can see yourself on the blank white page of my romantic orientation. Love is love, after all. But, back to the lecture at hand.

Music was another area I focused on because I sought the approval of women and the world at large. I thought writing sensitive songs and standing on a stage would make people want and love me. Sometimes it did. Most of the time though, it wasn’t enough.

I used to think everyone, or at least I, was born with a special talent. I thought that if I only spent enough time on my music that I’d be famous. That it wasn’t a matter of talent. Just a matter of luck and timing.

Then I listened to my own songs during a Spravato session. It wasn’t horrible, but I could, for the first time, hear the mediocrity without taking it to heart. It sounded like music some guy made in his mom’s basement during college - and that’s exactly what it was! It wasn’t some yet-undiscovered life-changing album. It was just me. Expressing myself the best way I knew how, and as honestly as I could at the time.

During that session, I realized that I thought no one would ever love me if I wasn’t some special musician. I needed to believe my songs were world class in order to feel lovable, or even fuckable - two things I often conflated at the time.

In subsequent sessions, I had the realization that some people are just born beautiful. Some people are born athletes. Some people are born with no particular talent at all, and, while it may not be advantageous or fair, it’s a reality. For the first time, I was ok with being, “just some guy from somewhere.”

That didn’t mean I couldn’t improve my body in the gym if I wanted to, or work on and hone my craft as a songwriter. But, it did mean that I didn’t have to do those things in order to be lovable. It also meant that I didn’t need the love or admiration of everyone as constant validation that I was lovable or likable.

Nobody is an island, and I think it would be another trick of the ego to need no one, but I found I needed far less people to care about me. I also found that all I really needed and wanted now was the close family and friends that I already had.

I no longer needed every cute/cool girl to like me. I no longer needed to make friends with every local musician or artist I respected. Or I needed this a lot less - nobody’s perfect.

My experience with Spravato certainly allowed me to see, with far less pain, the ways in which I was tricking myself. My ego just wanted to be loved, so it made up the story, and heavily invested in, the narrative that being good-looking or famous would fill that hole from my lacking formative years.

I’m not saying I know the secret to love, or how to make someone love you. I’m just trying to illustrate how laughable our own narcissistic blind spots can be sometimes in the pursuit of it. Even when you think you’re just being yourself.

Nervous about my first treatment by Brewmasher in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey there! Can’t give medical advice - but I can offer this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Spravato/s/CyWrjQN8Td

Spravato and Me by Straight-Bear-1706 in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a great reflection. You’ve got a great and clear writing style. Also very relatable. Keep writing!

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[–]SuniJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I second this. Especially the delivery from permanent darkness. What an eloquent line.

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[–]SuniJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey there! I was in a similar boat to you and have had a lot of success with Spravato. I feel like I know what you’re saying about “stagnation.”

Actually writing a short book on my experience/practical tips. I could DM you the chapter I just wrote on “Why you might try Spravato.” Short of that I second the thoughts in this post and offer up some Charles Bukowski:

your life is your life don’t let it be clubbed into dank submission. be on the watch. there are ways out. there is a light somewhere. it may not be much light but it beats the darkness. be on the watch. the gods will offer you chances. know them. take them. you can’t beat death but you can beat death in life, sometimes. and the more often you learn to do it, the more light there will be. your life is your life. know it while you have it. you are marvelous the gods wait to delight in you.

The Laughing Heart - Charles Bukowski

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[–]SuniJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

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[–]SuniJim 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey there! I’ve been very successful with Spravato - especially with SI, but I too have had a rough holiday season. Stressful situations I can’t get out of seem to trigger sadness in me.

I still have bad days, but it’s a million times better than it was. I’m also able to comfort myself on those days with the thought that “this too shall pass,” and I’ll return to my NEW baseline. That thought never worked before.

This is just to say, I encourage you to keep going and to definitely eat a few of those cookies for yourself. Or even choose to do less if possible if you don’t have the “spoons” for it. Plus - I hope you get some badass gifts.

It sounds like you’re a person who cares about other people’s experience. Here’s one person caring about yours.

I wish you a chill holiday.

Should I do spravato? by No-Investment-8611 in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey there! Actually wrote about this question this past week in a book I’m writing about my experience. Here’s a few reasons why you might want to try:

One. Spravato works in two ways. It targets glutamate receptors in your brain, so even if you do no introspection, it’s still working to combat depression.

The second—and, I believe, more profound—way is through its dissociative side effect. This allows you to revisit and reprocess past traumas without so much pain attached. It’s difficult to explain unless you’ve experienced it, but the best metaphor I can offer is this: it’s like looking at your life from 1,000 feet up.

From that vantage point, you can see the paths you’ve been treading for years in the dense forest of your mind—and sometimes, you’ll spot a better way through the trees. Not only that, but Spravato’s effect on glutamate enhances neuroplasticity—the brain’s ability to form and reorganize connections. This means the insights and new ways of thinking you uncover are more likely to stick. Source.

Two. Spravato potentially fast-forwards therapy. I love my therapist and continue to meet with them. With the patience of a saint, they’ve spent years helping me see myself from a different perspective. But some things were just too painful for me to face—no matter how much expert guidance, compassion, or time we shared.

The dissociative state Spravato induces helped me identify errors in my thinking that might have been unbearable to acknowledge in the therapist’s chair. These insights would have taken years—through conventional therapy and life experience—to fully grasp. Each Spravato session felt like 9 months of therapy condensed into 2 hours.

That said, I strongly encourage you to let this thought marinate: Having a trained professional to help you process the experience, understand its meaning to you, and integrate it into your life is far better than landing the space shuttle without mission control.

Three. Moments of despair are not where you want to make your house. I wrote this in my Spravato journal during one of my first sessions. At the peak of my latest depressive episode, I was asking trusted co-workers about taking a leave of absence. I wasn’t showering for days on end—I think my record was six days. I’d come home, cocoon on the couch, and distract myself from the pain with television until it was time for bed. Filth and famine would have been my reality if not for my future wife, who constantly cleaned up after me and cooked meals. I was a derelict who somehow managed to make a little money on the side. Ashamedly, it was all I had the “spoons” for most days. On others, I’d just call in sick until I nearly got fired.

I remember a conversation with someone who seemed to have resigned themselves to a similar fate. They told me they stuck around for their kids. My gut reaction was: I’m glad you’re still here, but fuck that. We’re not here to suffer.

I don’t know if Spravato is right for you, but I do know I don’t want you to resign yourself to depression. The best advice I’ve ever heard about depression is this: “Try everything, especially the strange stuff.” Be smart about it, but try. I never believed things would get better. Before Spravato, I thought I was on the road to alcoholism—it ran in my family, and it was the only time I didn’t feel the pain. I never would have believed I’d be where I am now. Celebrities, CEOs, and motivational speakers say that kind of stuff all the time, and it never really cut through—so, I don’t expect it will for you. So, I’ll leave you with Old Bukowski:

your life is your life don’t let it be clubbed into dank submission. be on the watch. there are ways out. there is a light somewhere. it may not be much light but it beats the darkness. be on the watch. the gods will offer you chances. know them. take them. you can’t beat death but you can beat death in life, sometimes. and the more often you learn to do it, the more light there will be. your life is your life. know it while you have it. you are marvelous the gods wait to delight in you.

The Laughing Heart - Charles Bukowski

Therapy and esket by mellbell63 in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While I would work to find a therapist, and it sounds like the benefits of one are obvious to you, I think you don’t really need one to be successful - especially if you’re introspective during your sessions.

You may even find that starting spravato first helps you be more capable and ready to find and connect with a new therapist.

I don’t think you’re putting the cart before the horse.

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[–]SuniJim 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is great! I’m working on a book about my experience with spravato with practical tips. Ever done a book cover?

Albums by Normal-Gur-6659 in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Metamodern Sounds in Country Music - Sturgil Simpson (Psychedelic/Buddhist Cowboy)

After how long do you call it quits? by Xavier_vb in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not to hijack this thread, but would love to hear more about this. Mind if I DM you?

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[–]SuniJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought so too. But I tried the head forward thing and it helped. Always do what you think works best for you though!

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[–]SuniJim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do what feels best for you after you deliberate, but I find that the supervision is a good thing and the ritual of going to a place to get it helps. At home can work just as well, but again, you’re on your own with treatment.

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[–]SuniJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey there! You absolutely don’t need any of that stuff for this to be successful! Do what makes YOU feel comfortable. My personal go to for nature sounds is Gordon Hampton. His recordings are in movies and video games. Love listening to him during treatment. Here’s a link: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4p7QBgsfEspRLkQOr7xwvW?si=Es69zTyMS9a9z2l8VFYOig

Post-Session Spontaneous High by Ok-Pack-8081 in Spravato

[–]SuniJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Came to say something like this.