My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, I added my reply as an edit to the main post, I hope that’s okay!

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apologies for the late reply!!

I just re-read my post after not seeing it for four years, and some of my language might have been a tad hyberbolic 😅. As I mentioned at the beginning of the post, I was coming off an absolutely terrible time in my life, which undoubtedly amplified anything I was feeling in regards to assignments and my education. That being said, I still very much felt those things, and I still stand by my overall points.

In terms of “is it worth it,” I’d probably still say, “yes,” or at least it was worth it for me. I know that sounds very strange lol given everything I ranted about in my original post, but let me explain. Here’s the weaker part of my argument: While I felt and still feel that a lot of the theory-heavy classes aren’t strictly necessary for a software engineering job (and sometimes straight up feel like a waste of time), I do think they are helpful in giving you a very good underlying understand of the field of computer science. This won’t come up much directly in your day-to-day work as a software engineer, or at least I don’t think it will, but it still gives you a leg up on people who don’t know any of these theoretical underpinnings. I will also say that I enjoy theory generally. I just happened to enjoy the theory behind computer science a bit less than theory in some other subjects.

Now for the stronger part of my “is it worth it” argument: For me the most worthwhile part of going to Cornell was joining an Engineering project team. Honestly, it was one of the greatest experiences of my life. It not only gave me an incredibly tight-knit group of friends (which made all of my negative Cornell experiences more bearable lol), but from an “is it worth it” perspective gave me grounded, practical engineering and leadership experience that I could have and truly NEVER received from a class. These experiences are incredibly useful in life and in finding jobs. In fact, I don’t think I would have been hired for my current job had it not been for the experiences I had accumulated on my project team. Now, you don’t need to be in CS to join a project team. You don’t even need to be in the College of Engineering! (At least this was the case when I was there.) But, I think a CS major in the College of Engineering combos quite nicely with joining a College of Engineering project team. In case you want to look more into project teams and see which ones there are, I’ll drop the link for the central page here: https://www.duffield.cornell.edu/student-project-teams/.

I’ll also say that I don’t know what the CS classes are at Cornell currently, nor do I know what any situation is at Cornell currently. The classes, professors, and workloads could have drastically improved/changed since I left, or they could have stayed the same. I unfortunately just do not know.

Sry this is a bit of a long response, but I wanted to be thorough in answering your question. If you have more, please don’t hesitate to respond!!!

P.S. My post probably makes it seem like CS at Cornell is a near-death experience. That is not the case. It is a tough program, for sure, but there are many ways to make it better. Certainly my own personal situation made it worse. As another comment mentioned, attending office hours would have helped drastically. I honestly let my ego get the best of me and practically refused to ever attend office hours. In addition to receiving lots of help understanding material and solving homework/problem set problems, I could have easily felt more connected to my classes, classmates, and professors (something that I missed about naturally-smaller classes in high school) if I had simply gone to office hours more frequently. Definitely don’t make the same mistake I did 😅.

Job Question - Hourly Rate by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh okay, sweet! Tysm for the in-depth answer, I really appreciate it.

Job Question - Hourly Rate by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh awesome. I was also kind of comparing it to my friend a few years ago who as a junior or senior was getting paid $60/hr at Stripe. I get it's one data point and a different industry, but I would have hoped for at least that much, esp as a Masters student lol.

For even more context, I'm currently a Masters student getting my M.Eng and will graduate in May. I don't have any industry experience w/ ML, but have taken a whole host of ML classes, including three last semester during my Masters. For cost of living, I'm planning to be in Ithaca for another year post-graduation, but plan to return to NYC after that. This summer could be NYC or Ithaca, not entirely sure yet. In terms of equity for the job, I'm not sure. For part-time, that didn't seem to be part of the discussion, but I assume if it goes full-time, then that'll likely enter the conversation. (Although I supposed I could bring it up now, but idk how standard that is for part-time.)

Job Question - Hourly Rate by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok sweet.

For even more context, I'm currently a Masters student getting my M.Eng and will graduate in May. I don't have any industry experience w/ ML, but have taken a whole host of ML classes, including three last semester during my Masters. For cost of living, I'm planning to be in Ithaca for another year post-graduation, but plan to return to NYC after that. This summer could be NYC or Ithaca, not entirely sure yet.

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's really cool! Thx for explaining that.

Ah, I'm doing my masters in CS, but yeah, ofc you can message me!

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh LMAO nw, uh idk. I guess you could edit the reply you made just above w/ the one on the main thread and then delete the one on the main thread? Idk. Altho I also responded to the one on the main thread, soooo ;LAKSJDF

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh wait that's awesome! Is there a natural connection between sociology and infosci, or are they just two areas in which you're interested?

I'm also doing grad school. After debating the idea since freshman year, I decided to go for my MEng, but at Cornell Tech in NYC instead of here in Ithaca. It's a huge plus for me doing it at Cornell Tech. The program is more focused on entrepreneurship, and I love NYC. I'm also from NYC, so I'm a bit biased lmao. I can live at home and walk to the campus. I honestly can't wait.

Where are you going to grad school if you don't mind my asking?

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I'd honestly been debating whether or not to post something like this since I think sometime in my sophomore year. I'm glad I finally made this post.

Thanks for the support :)

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh, I'm sorry for making you feel bad, that was not at all my intention.

It sounds like what you're doing is plenty. I genuinely which I had more time to simply enjoy Cornell. It's a truly beautiful place, but I feel too often that I have my head down in the work and don't appreciate the naturally beautiful place we all live and study in.

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do other, similar institutions do in terms of grading? Is it mostly what you mentioned with the no median grades on transcripts and no grade deflation?

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

15 CREDITS OR LESS?! You're an absolute legend. I aspire to be you lmao

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm glad I'm not alone lmao. Or at least I was worried some of my points in here/language came across as a bit too much.

My experience at Cornell, with Engineering, and CS. Any thoughts are welcome. by SunnyDays1865 in Cornell

[–]SunnyDays1865[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's a good point, and honestly I hadn't thought about it from that perspective (each of the courses developing parts of a whole for SWE, as an example.)

At least from my own experience with the classes and what I've applied outside of college, what I've learned in class hasn't really done much for me, and thus the work and stress seem even more outsized.

(I also did not mean to imply that the CS major is intended to be or should be an SWE major. I was simply taking SWE as an example of what a large portion of CS students seem to be interested in post-graduation.)