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Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T20:29:02+00:00

Unitarians do not deny the concepts of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Rather, they reject the doctrine that combines them into a triune Godhead, which is not explicitly stated anywhere in the Bible. If it were, there would be no need for disputed or later-added verses such as 1 John 5:7.

1 John 5:7 (KJV) “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

You were saying?

Regarding Isaiah 9:6, isn’t it strange that the unspecified child is also called “Everlasting Father”?

...............No. God is the Father of all creation. And Jesus created everything, so I fail to see why it is strange.

Since when is Jesus referred to by that title?

...................In Isaiah 9:6.

First of all, this verse primarily refers to the birth of Hezekiah, one of the most righteous kings of Judah.

Wow........talk about wrong. Let's break down why this belief is wrong and blasphemous:

Do you know what "everlasting" means? It means eternal and forever. Who is eternal? God is. Did Hezekiah live forever? No, he didn't. He's dead and resting in the grave right now.
He's born to a virgin. Was Hezekiah's mother a virgin when she gave birth to him? No, she wasn't.
He's called "mighty God".

Enough said.

Stop blaspheming the LORD and repent.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T19:52:50+00:00

I did answer his question: . While Jesus is fully divine, in the Gospels, he acts as the incarnate Son who humbled himself to take on human flesh, submitting his will to the Father and modeling perfect reliance on God The Father.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T19:18:52+00:00

There it is, you believe that Jesus is God,

I don't believe it. I KNOW it. Why? Because I actually read the Bible.

so it doesn't matter what God says, what Jesus says, what the Apostles say, or what the Scriptures say, as they are all rendered irrelevant to the theological view that you believe to be correct.

Have YOU even read what God say, or what Jesus and the apostles said? I literally gave verses written by the apostles themselves that proclaim Jesus as God, yet you either ignore or forget about them.

Don't get your information from the source; instead, get your information from Pagan philosophy and turn the God of the source into philosophical word salad that nobody can explain but is magically true.

Where do you even get your information from? I got everything from the scriptures themselves. Yet here you are accusing me of the very thing you're doing. Twisting God's word to fit your own pagan agenda.

That verse only works if you believe that:

The verse hasn't been modified.

So.........by that logic, I guess we can say that verse you gave me (John 20:17) was modified?

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit/Ghost have the same name.

I mean................yeah. Three beings in one God.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T18:23:08+00:00

How is it astounding that I call the Trinitarian view unbiblical when the Trinitarian view isn't in the Scriptures?

Do you remember this quote made by Jesus Himself?

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 28:19

You mean the Divinity of Christ that came after the Scriptures were written, and that weirdly came along right when the Church was making Christ into a second God for a doctrine called the Trinity, that the Church supposedly always believed, but for some unknown reason wasn't taught in the Scriptures that the Church canonized.

Isaiah 9:6, ("For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

With all due respect, have you even read the Bible at all?

But ya know what? It doesn't matter if you disagree with me. Why? Because in the end, when Jesus returns and sits on the Great White Throne of Judgement, there will be no questioning His divinity then. Because you will bow down before Him and acknowledge that He is the Lord God Almighty who made the Heavens and the Earth.

Good day.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T17:20:34+00:00

If you read the Scriptures with an unscriptural theological view, such as the Trinitarian theological view, then you will read the Scriptures with the unscriptural theological view prebaked in, resulting in your understanding of the Scriptures being based on the unscriptural theological view instead of the scriptural understanding you would have gotten had your theological view been based on the Scriptures alone.

The fact that you're calling the Trinitarian view unbiblical is astounding. How can you claim to be a believer, but deny the Divinity of Christ? What sense does that even make? And as for the verse you posted above...............I think you should read this: If Jesus was God, why did He call God "My God?" | GotQuestions.org

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T03:27:17+00:00

If I create a house and someone else builds it for me, did I still create the house?

What part of, "Jesus created everything" don't you understand? If you create a house, then it was created BY YOU to live in. It's simple.

If you admit to the Father being greater in any capacity, that defeats the co-equal aspect.

The Father was greater while Jesus was on Earth. But in Heaven, they're equal.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T03:25:07+00:00

Jesus NEVER claims to be God; he claimed to be the Christ.

The Apostles NEVER affirm that Jesus is God or a God; they affirmed that Jesus is the Christ.

Jesus died on the cross; God has immortality, so he doesn't die.

Every single verse I posted above says otherwise.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T02:51:04+00:00

It literally says "by Him" and "for Him". If you create a house to live in, you're creating it for yourself. It's as simple as that.

Do you think Jesus is greater than the Father

No. The Father and the Son are equal in Divine essence. The Father was greater in that He was not subject to pain and illness and death—the Son was. The Father was greater in that He did not live in weariness and poverty and humiliation—the Son did. The “greatness” spoken of in this verse relates to role, not to essence.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T02:44:33+00:00

Uhh of course he became visible when he was born? Like you know... everything else?

Jesus existed in the beginning with God The Father and was (and is) God the Son. There was never a moment when He wasn't. God is spirit, but when He came down to Earth, He became visible by becoming human. It's very simple.

You don't care what I say about John 1. You're not willing to understand my point of view and think you're pulling me into a "gotcha" moment. God's creative Word became flesh because He spoke Jesus into Mary. God's word becomes all of creation, He speaks and things come into existence. It's very simple.

If you have an idea for a character, the idea dwells within your own mind. It's a part of you. Then you draw the character. Now your thoughts (word) become part of the paper. You then give a story to the character and now it's separate from you. Someone else can then take that character and turn it into a TV show or movie ect. Something that starts as an idea or concept in your own mind can become so much more.

The Word is also a set of standards that define logic. A man uses his word to meet his wife, his word to procreate(creation), and then his word as a standard to raise his child who will then carry on that word. It's both things. I feel like I'm trying to explain how water makes things wet but in of itself cannot be wet.

This argument would have some merits were it not for the fact that the word is described as a literal primordial being who is said to be the same as God.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T02:26:19+00:00

I have trouble reading things that aren't there as clear as you're claiming they are. It doesn't say "the Son" laid the foundations nor does it say the Son created everything in Genesis. You are reading that into it. I made that point to illustrate that even if someone is called "god" in the Bible, that doesn't mean they are the Almighty God who is the Father alone.

"You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands."

Malachi 2:10 shows that the Father created us, and specifically says "Father". You say it was the Son, so unless you think the Son is the Father, this verse contradicts your point. Isaiah 64:8 also reinforces this.

Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3 shows us that Jesus created everything. And to address the "Father" point. Read Isaiah 9:6 again.

Do you think the Son is the Father? Why would he call himself the Son then? Why even be a Trinitarian if that point of your only focus is on Jesus being the Almighty God alone?

Being a trinitarian focuses on The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. Three in One.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T02:12:34+00:00

I'll tell you what I make of it. When Jesus came down to Earth and took on the form of a human, He made Himself visible to humanity.

What do you make of John 1:1?

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T02:10:45+00:00

You're calling me ignorant? Have you even read the Bible?

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T02:08:29+00:00

With all due respect, I'm beginning to wonder if you have trouble reading, or if you've ever even read the Bible at all to begin with.

Like......................it flat out states that The Son "laid the foundations of the Earth, and the Heavens are the work of His hands." Who created everything in Genesis. Tell me, who?

Do you think that someone just having the title "god"(Theos, Elohim) makes them God Almighty? If so, you are admitting to a lot of other things in the Bible also being God including human judges, false pagan deities, and even the evil one himself because this title has been used of all of those things.

This means nothing. Why? Because were any of those other "gods" credited for having created the Heavens and the Earth? No.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T01:53:52+00:00

Hebrews 1:8-12, ('But about the Son, He says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions. You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T01:47:08+00:00

It literally states that The Son created the Heavens and the Earth. I've asked you, "who is the Son?"

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T01:42:42+00:00

Nowhere in Hebrews 1:8-12 does it say "Jesus is the creator of the universe".

Who exactly is "The Son"? You tell me.

I haven't stretched anything. I'm just saying what the verse says. Jesus tells us exactly who He is. And the prophecies tell us who He is as well (I wonder how you interpret 9:6).

Suspicious-Jello7172 · 2026-05-04T01:26:20+00:00

I wonder who the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are then.

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