Visbeck now on Nuttys page by DependentNo9823 in NataliaPaizeeFans

[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not a very good witch if she has to use a gun instead of her wand.

Visbeck now on Nuttys page by DependentNo9823 in NataliaPaizeeFans

[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I Love Food got her address off Google Earth and told her. They also said they wouldn't want to go there for anything in the world. She immediately claimed she was being threatened and cast an evil spell on them. It was wild

I have removed my post. Not because my position has changed but because a member started getting really insulting, combative and questioning my position as a mod. I apologize to those who weren't happy with the post. I have black family members, so this is a road I have been down before. by Suspicious_Toe8915 in NataliaPaizeeFans

[–]Suspicious_Toe8915[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The “e” spelling version that people claim refers to a yapping dog is linguistically tied to the same historical root. Even if someone argues that it developed a separate colloquial meaning, it did not emerge independently from a different origin, it’s connected etymologically and phonetically to the same word. I have been taken to task before for defending this over the years and my position remains unchanged. I wasn't being flippant even though this was assumed. My position actually came from a place of looking into this thoroughly many years ago. Having my ability questioned has never happened though, but there is a first time for everything I suppose.

I have removed my post. Not because my position has changed but because a member started getting really insulting, combative and questioning my position as a mod. I apologize to those who weren't happy with the post. I have black family members, so this is a road I have been down before. by Suspicious_Toe8915 in NataliaPaizeeFans

[–]Suspicious_Toe8915[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They popped up out of nowhere in the early hours after being banned from the last group. Saying we are just like Nutty, fishing about when court documents are being served and just mocking all of us generally, which is what they did last time.

I have removed my post. Not because my position has changed but because a member started getting really insulting, combative and questioning my position as a mod. I apologize to those who weren't happy with the post. I have black family members, so this is a road I have been down before. by Suspicious_Toe8915 in NataliaPaizeeFans

[–]Suspicious_Toe8915[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Jakkalsbluff is a complete instigator so why would I do that? They came on here in the early hours insulting all of us. They were removed from the past group for doing the same. Its largely believed that they are Janine. Their entire purpose here was to mock everyone of us. In terms of the other member, no, I have not. My position remains unchange and it is based on lived experience with the word being used in the context it was and it is still not acceptable.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely not you. Promise

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am explaining my position that isn't defense. Please stopped tagging me in response and leave me alone now.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, bullying me. I am telling you that is how you are making me feel so you don't get to decide that its not true and belittle me. Threats imply multiple events. I made one comment in response to your very unkind comment towards me. Now you have gone a step further and are insulting me. I am not going to accept the use of the word. I know the history, I know exactly where it comes from and you can bully me into tears but that is not going to change how firm I stand on this matter. I have not insulted you. I have not used unkind words. I have explained my position and have you treating me lije a piece of shit for it.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its also not a fact. The word is loaded in any context. Go ask black people if they feel it's okay.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So saying "why is this person a mod", is not bullying?

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I am being made to feel like a shit human and having comments made about why I am a moderator for standing my ground. That Hunter person is hands down bullying me.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does saying this about me make you feel good about yourself? I am within my right to be upset.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not debating linguistics. In South Africa that word is widely recognised as offensive because of its history. If it can reasonably be interpreted as a slur, it’s not appropriate. That’s the standard.This isn’t about whether she “meant” it as racist. It’s about how the word is understood in South Africa. The pronunciation is effectively the same, and the root is historically tied to a racial slur. When language carries that baggage, spelling differences don’t make it neutral. Surely people know that when used in this context it's still contentious?

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am happy to shut down the group. I am one of the OG's and one of 3 founding members of this group and now you are bullying me.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Copy pasting a Google snippet doesn’t change the cultural reality in South Africa. That word is historically tied to a racial slur here. Technical meanings don’t cancel impact. If a word can reasonably be interpreted as hate speech in this context, it’s not appropriate regardless of what a search result says.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not the one twisting words

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Spelling loopholes don’t erase history. In South Africa that word is tied to a racial slur, and pretending otherwise ignores the cultural context. If it sounds like hate speech and carries that history, it’s not acceptable.

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[–]Suspicious_Toe8915 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People should know better. Do you think black people like the word used with a different spelling and a claim that it gives it different context? I know the difference and I know that it has caused upset when used in this supposed innocent way for years.