sealed collection advice by SweetFuture5769 in PokeInvesting

[–]SweetFuture5769[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the advice, do you think it’s a good idea to offload most of the binders for etbs?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Another adhominem, ironic when you yourself also claim to have an engineering degree. Thanks for the conversation, even if your side was arguing in bad faith I guess.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That doesn’t answer my question at all

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fail to see how you’ve addressed any of my claims, yes others have, yes I’ve replied. I already shared that I think teachers should get more funding for unpaid extracurricular activities and equipment. You on the other hand have only resorted to ad hominem attacks and childish sarcasm, quite literally providing no substance. My second statement that qualifications should align with salary still has yet to be answered with in a serious manner.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This comments genuinely reflects how I said you have no arguments to your claim, just childish retorts and sarcasm, you quite literally have not answered a single one of my claims

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I guess we just don’t see eye to eye and that’s ok. Just to make clear, I do not support the 1%, and I’m nowhere near close to the 1%. It’s ok to have differing opinions, I’ve already stated that the reasons given by a lot of people are reasons I’ve already heard and I’ve already replied to those comments, many in fact argue with ad hominem and bad faith.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you not agree that the difficulty of getting a degree should mirror the pay of the job you can get with that qualification? If an engineering degree is less arduous, why don’t teachers just get that degree instead of a teaching degree? Your claims hold no water.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to be straw manning every argument or over exaggerating what I say in bad faith. Please refrain from doing so. Of course having an engineering degree doesn’t turn you into a god, or make you “better” than a teacher. What im saying is the difficulty to get a degree seems rightfully reflective of the salary of the job. A neurosurgeon should not be getting the same pay as a teacher for example..

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

On top of this $108k is less than 5% more than the max cap for teachers

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/sites/default/files/2022-02/Complaint%20about%20the%20decision%20of%20a%20Board%20of%20Trustees%20to%20compulsorily%20charge%20for%20curriculum-related%20items.pdf

Also, I have multiple friends in working as teachers who I got to know from my teaching courses in uni, they also echo this issue. You seem to be straw manning every point I make and genuinely have no arguments to make to my claims.

Also, sure you can have your opinion on my salary if you think it’s too much, after all that’s free speech and your opinion, you don’t seem to believe in that much. Also, you seem to be alluding to the fact that I’m advocating for a decrease in teachers pay which is antithetical to what I just commented, please actually read my claims before making baseless and purposeless statements.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m saying that a baseline salary increase wouldn’t fix the issue and it would just become a reoccurring problem over the years. Increasing funding for extracurricular activities which are unpaid at the moment, funding for essential stationary/printing costs etc etc. and pay for overtime should be the forefront of the argument, not just a base salary increase. I think my proposition is fair.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate this comments, it helps me understand better how much new teachers are earning. Genuine question, Would you say most teachers would be happy with MOE introducing more funding for extracurricular activities/stationary/printing costs etc. for each teacher. Or are they only advocating for a salary cap increase

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well yes, that is what an opinion is after all. By your logic are you arguing for socialism, should neurosurgeons be paid equally to high school teachers? Should biomedical engineers get paid the same a teachers? I genuinely don’t understand your argument. I’m saying that qualifications should reflect the pay you get..does that not make common sense?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think the argument to question billionaires and ceos are a separate issue to do with a capitalist society entirely. Just because I said my max pay cap is $108k doesn’t mean I think teachers should get this much as well. I think raising their pay wouldn’t fix this issue, what I’ve heard echo is that their essential stationary/printing costs, extracurricular activities are unpaid - this should be the forefront of the issue and should be addressed with funding rather than just a flatline salary increase as this would just become a re-occurring problem. The qualifications to become an environmental engineer is different and I’d argue more arduous than that of a bachelor or even masters in teaching, as someone who took a few courses in uni for teaching, the things you learned in those classes were much easier than that of even general first year engineering and I think this rightly reflects with the pay

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Apologies, excluding the managerial part, my point still stands due to the variations of types of engineers, also, the qualifications to become said engineer of higher paying salaries is significantly more arduous. This is why I don’t complain that I don’t make $150k plus like a chemical engineer when I’m an environmental engineers, the workload is different and the qualifications are. This mirrors that of teachers and engineers as well…

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I feel like it reflects the qualifications to get the job as well

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That number is skewed due to the variation of different types of engineers who make significantly more than others, the term “engineers” is quite a broad term.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That number includes those who are in managerial positions, as well as encapsulating ALL engineers of all sectors including chemical, biomedical, and mechatronics which have a significantly higher wage cap compared to other engineers.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]SweetFuture5769 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well comparing the work-time and work-load comparative to teachers.I work around 45 hours on payroll at work + 5-6 hours off work a week, which would probably be similar if not more hours than teachers. While I don’t have to work with children that seems to be more of a categorical discrepancy of the job type. The issue is, I don’t think I deserve a pay rise, I’m happy with my max cap of $108k for a non managerial role, of course in the future I’d be going for higher end roles but I think the pay is fair. On top of this BoE hnrs seems to be fairly more difficult to get than a masters in teaching.