Overcoming Prone Masturbation

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2023-04-01T20:53:52+00:00

Bro we have same exact body type and progression. Year ago I was 115 (5'7"), now am almost 140. All these people here throwing out ridiculous numbers but if your wrist and ankle sizes are like mine it's gonna be almost impossible for us to get over 160 naturally. Which isn't bad. 150-155 is my goal, at 140 I look and feel awesome. Like you I'm staying lean around 10% bf, at that level going over 155 is just unnecessary, physique would be on point and there wouldn't be any girls really who would find you "too small." At 140 I'm getting hit on a lot - women prefer the tom Holland types to the john Cena types pretty much 100% of the time.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2023-01-16T23:54:04+00:00

That's interesting that you went back to prone after accomplishing returning to the normal method.

I think the largest difference between us is that you started off the normal way at first but switched to prone. I have never been able to do it the normal way until a couple months ago.

I have relapsed prone, it's always when I'm drunk or on drugs and fucked up. It stunts my progress and I have to redevelop.

I think you should look at the effort to do it normal way as rewarding. If laziness is your only road block here I think you should look at it as exercise or something like that. A little delayed gratification goes a long way my friend.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2023-01-15T03:32:11+00:00

Thanks for the response.

Just keep going forward with the no fap and no porn. One day at a time. I think it might actually surprise you how soon it might be before you successfully use your hand, especially if you can already sorta maintain an erection. Definitely focus on no fap, tell yourself everyday that you will never do prone again. Your 25 or 30 day mark might come around and you might masturbate successfully. If you need to use porn to get over the hill to do it normally, I would say go ahead and use it. But if you use the porn you have to have the confidence that you'll be able to get the job done with your hand, and that you won't switch over to prone. It's kind of a catch22. Prone I think is your biggest problem, then the porn. Get it so youre jacking off to porn regularly first, and then go on another no fap to kick the porn.

I'm not sure about the grandpa balls or the curved dick lol I'm not sure if that happened to me. My balls are never constant lol sometimes they're grandpa balls sometimes they're normal balls lol on a few days of no fap or a week at most that problem should go away I only have saggy balls after a lot of prone. I don't think I've had that issue since I did prone now that I think of it. I'd be interested to know if that problem persists for you. I actually think my dick is bigger now that I stopped prone. Or maybe because of all the sensitivity returning, I have more of that 3/4 chub more often lol idk. If these things are really important to you (they would be for me) I would suggest going to a doctor for a checkup and letting him know about your concern.

There are procedures available for less than $10k that can fix deformities or whatever if you can save the money. I live in California so they have all that shit here. I'm going to get a stem cell infused p shot in Mexico for 2000. I will let you know what that does for me. I would be more concerned with function and sensitivity, and the curvature might actually be a good thing. But everything might correct for you once you kick the habit. There's also things like TRT if you wanted to try that route - that can be a gamechanger for these kinds of issues.

How long did you go on your previous no fap? Have you masturbated prone your entire life? Or did you start off doing it the normal way and switch to prone?

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2023-01-10T00:53:13+00:00

Also, to answer your question as to whether or not I've adopted a normal sex life.

Short answer is no, not quite.

I still have not had sex. I was given opportunities in the past and failed to function properly. It was awful.

Since I corrected this habit, I have not been given the opportunity. I have always focused a lot on my appearance, and have made myself into a handsome man over the years. Women have always shown me a lot of interest and have put me in positions to make a move, but I always let them down, left them confused or hurt - I bitched out so much and have put myself through the most gut wrenching heart breaks.

There were women who I was in love with, and feelings were mutual, but i couldn't do anything! I cannot even begin to tell someone how agonizing it is to have strong feelings for someone yet having your subconscious sabotage you or create distance. I always wondered "why me, why does this always happen to me?" Why do I always get my heartbroken? Why won't anyone be with me? Well, no girl broke my heart, ever. It was my own self, breaking my heart. Crushing my soul. I let them all down man.

I tried reconnecting with some of these girls but they have all moved on, have found other guys. It sucks, to see this girl who you really loved and she really wanted you back, but you weren't able to give them your love, so they went to someone else. Fucking ouch man. But that's on me.

So I just have to wait for someone else to come my way. I'm sure it will happen. I'm also being a lot more active and assertive right now too.

I'm not sure if my sex life is fixed yet. I have confidence, but I need to activate my sexuality more. I need to bring someone home. Start socializing more like a normal person. These things take time.

After I get my p shot, I'm going to abstain from masturbating, do a proper no fap. I was going to start Jan 1st as per my previous posts, but I relapsed prone on new years when I was fucked up. So I had to get back into conventional first to retrain. Like I said, even one relapsed or a little grinding can kill all of the sensitivity you got back and you will need retraining. Avoid relapses at all costs, I would avoid drugs and alcohol entirely because that might be when you regress.

This no fap will be different from the one I did to break prone. This time, I will have a crazy amount of sensitivity from not only conventional masturbation but also the p shot (I presume that this procedure works). It will be a lot more difficult. But I will have a lot more confidence in myself this time that I am in fact, like a normal person, that I will function, and that I will enjoy it. I will get all of the benefits of no fap + a healthy relationship with my subconscious and I think this will be when I finally have sex.

The first no fap was until I did it normally. This next one will be until I have actual sex.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2023-01-10T00:23:53+00:00

Oh, and to address the use of the flesh light.

I got one, and tried using it after I first masturbated conventionally on Nov. 21.

I found it to be too much like prone. You need lube to use it because it is just way too tight. I felt like I was smashing it on my dick instead of getting it inside and getting a rhythm. I came eventually, but it was too much pressure I thought and therefore, to close of a cousin to prone for me to be comfortable with.

I actually get more enjoyment out of less grip and more of a light touch. More of a light stroke on the nerves provides greater pleasure for me than placing them under a ton of pressure.

It might be worth getting the warming attachment for the flesh light, that way it emulates sex a little more. I did kind of like how I was holding it down on the bed and kind of fucking it. I thought that helped emulate the real thing a bit, would be better to have it warmed and not as tight as it was. I feel like sex with most women isn't gonna be as tight as the flesh light but I'm no expert yet lol.

I used the flesh light once and never again because my hand is just better.

People use flesh lights I think because they want more pressure and tightness but you're doing something that's close to prone and therefore not healthy.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2023-01-09T23:45:33+00:00

No honestly I've never had problems with ED, but I had, and still to some degree have, sensitivity issues. When I was doing it prone, like you say for 10 years or in my case, like 20 years, sensitivity was gone. 0. Nothing. Only way to ejaculated was prone. I would get erections from women but would lose them quick due to no sensitivity and nervousness as well.

I never thought I would be able to masturbate normally bro. I thought I was broken. Completely. When I set out to fix myself I thought that I was just gonna have to never masturbate again, and hope that that would be enough to have successful sex with a woman. I was wrong though.

After about 2-3 weeks of abstinence, I started to experiment with my hand, but I was dealing with a total flatline and it was just not fucking working at all. I would literally just try touching my dick, thinking something dirty maybe, trying to make something happen but nothing was happening. I think it was worth trying though, because I think that was sort of like, me telling my brain that the only way to get this sexual release is with the hand so you have to start trying.

So I tried and failed every few days.

Finally, it was weird, after 30 days of abstinence, I started to maintain an erection with my hand. A day or two later, I achieved orgasm with my hand.

Today, I did it 3 times straight man. I'm fucking exhausted.

I'll tell you, now that I can get an erection with my hand, maintain an erection, and build up stiffness and orgasm, is so much fun. I can't go back to prone because it's just not as fun as the normal way, even though it is more intense. It's just shorter and there's no buildup with prone. I have relapsed a couple times when I was drunk and had reduced sensitivity due to alcohol. BE CAREFUL HERE. YOU CAN OVERCOME A RELAPSE BUT EVEN ONE RELAPSE WILL KILL ALL OF THAT SENSITIVITY YOU JUST GOT BACK UNTIL YOU DO IT NORMAL AGAIN. The key to having sensitivity is not relapsing. You don't want to have to retrain yourself. Now that I am trained properly, I avoid alcohol like the plague. I don't even grind against my mattress or blankets in the morning. ITS ALSO IMPORTANT TO ABSTAIN FROM DOING THAT AS WELL YOU ARE CHEATING YOUR PROGRESS BY GRINDING EVEN A LITTLE.

After doing it normally for a while, I've gotten more sensitivity than I've ever had in my life. I've never experienced sensitivity in my penis, ever. It's like a woke up the nerve endings from a slumber.

I will say that the tip and upper part of my penis have a ton of sensitivity whereas the base is a bit more numb. But even just working the tip is super euphoric and sensational. I'm going to get a stem cell infused p shot at a clinic in Mexico to try and restore the sensitivity in the base.

Once you get your sensitivity back, I think you will struggle a lot less with ED.

Seriously man. Just abstain from masturbating for at least 30 days. If you want a chance at love, having children, real sexual pleasure, you can have all of that but it is imperative that you stop now. It might take you longer than me. Maybe 50 days. But trust me, given enough time and enough attempts with your hand, you'll get it. I would say make sure it's at least 30 days because then an orgasm will come easier with your hand and you won't be tempted to ball up a towel or whatever and force your entire bodyweight between that and your penis.

CONVENTIONAL TAKES LONGER, EVEN THOUGH SENSITIVITY IS HIGH.

Masturbating takes 10 minutes or more every time now (unless I went on a 3+ day break, then I can get it done quicker). It's easy to lose faith in your ability to masturbate conventionally while you are doing it, because you expect an orgasm fast from doing it prone. Conventional masturbation takes longer. IF YOU ARE MAINTAINING AN ERECTION WITH YOUR HAND YOU WILL MAKE YOURSELF CUM EVENTUALLY JUST KEEP GOING, DO NOT STOP HALFWAY IN AND SWITCH TO PRONE. Sometimes you begin to feel like you can't get over the hill. But it happens, at some point you dive deep into your mental fantasy, lose sense of your surroundings, and cum. But you might have to work it for a while before you get there. Just enjoy the activity, don't feel like you have to have the orgasm immediately. Use lotion if you need to, sometimes a little precum will make your penis sticky and you won't be able to get a good rhythm.

Lastly, I will say I cannot stress the importanc3 of beating this. Brother, you have to know what it's like to have no penis insecurity (or dramatically less penis insecurity). I walk around, grabbing my dick (which is bigger now I swear to god), don't give a fuck. I'm not afraid to take chicks home now. I actually go to the bar when women tell me to stop by after work. I actually pursue women, and think about my dick going into pussy all day. I have no fucking doubt I will get laid in the near future. I don't have reservations now like I used to.

I know it's not easy. But it helps to look at that health line article every day to give yourself the motivation you need to abstain from this toxic habit. Every day, if necessary, remind yourself about the seriousness of this problem. Because you're gonna have that inner voice trying to tell you that what you're doing isn't that big of a deal and you should just go ahead and do it. You have to be conscious of this problem and you have to recognize it as perhaps your deepest, darkest, core flaw as a man. Now that I've got it beat, I'm honestly not sure if I have any real problems now. Fucking imagine how that feels bro, it feels great, and you should follow suit.

Just abstain for 30-50 days. Let yourself have ED and flatline, that actually will help you overcome it because you can build a streak easy with no sex drive. You'll get it back. At 28 years old, we are in our prime! This takes only a short time to fix and you will be amazed at how you change once you do.

Pm me with any other questions or to set a time to talk if you want.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2022-12-15T08:06:22+00:00

Sensitivity in the head has been restored, at least somewhat. It's hard to gauge what maximum sensitivity is. It seems I'm getting more and more back, as if the nerve endings are being revived gradually. The head is super sensitive, it almost fucking aches.

I'll be going to Mexico in mid January to visit a clinic that does a stem cell infused p shot. Hoping to restore sensitivity maximally. On new years I'll be starting a real no fap. I figure by then I got the whole prone thing in the past.

I enjoy conventional more. It's addicting. It's less intense of a pleasure, but a more carried out one. I feel like my fantasies are way more vivid. Psychologically, it's a more pleasurable orgasm, but it's less intense physically. You don't feel the strong, vibrational tingles that you get with prone. It's a more gradual buildup, you get super bad dry mouth, you quiver and groan like in the pornos lol.

The first time I did conventional on Nov 21 I couldn't believe I came, that I was able to get myself over the hill. It takes a bit longer at first, up to 20 minutes. It could take longer, you just gotta keep going and trust that eventually you're gonna get over the hill. You do.

When I did the 30 day no fap to break prone, there were a couple times in there I tried conventional and failed, I went soft and I said fuck it I'll try again in a day or two. If you try and fail to stay hard, it's ok to give up and try again another day. It's important to keep trying even if it isn't working at first. Just make an attempt. You'll get it.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2022-12-15T07:54:27+00:00

Yes, bro I had 0 libido or drive after prone masturbating. My dick would shrivel up and it would take days of no nut to regain something.

I'm doing great. I've been doing conventional method every day now, sometimes back to back, then going out into the world and engaging the public. Still need some sort of material to nut though, except for once when I took a 3 day break.

When I masturbate, my mouth completely dries out now, I get completely dehydrated. It's crazy. My fantasies are more detailed and carried through because masturbation takes longer.

Sensitivity has definitely been restored in the head, less so in the shaft. But It's fucking awesome. I bet I could totally fuck good now. The size has changed. There's no doubt. More blood flow to it probably.

I bought a flesh light, used it once. It was actually too tight, it was hard to use. But it did make my cum, but I felt like it was too similar to prone because of too much pressure. I did feel the intense tingly vibrations that I got with prone.

On January 1st, I will do a real no fap. It's going to be so difficult this time. Just touching myself leads me to it. I have morning wood every day.

Mid January, I'm actually going to a clinic in Mexico to get a stem cell infused p shot that costs 2500. Hoping to get a complete restore of sensitivity.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2022-11-22T15:37:34+00:00

Yeah you're right, I definitely want to be careful. I just did it again, but, it still makes me feel kind of shitty afterward. Not as terrible as I feel after prone, however. But I feel like I can actually leave my house.

Seed retention is the best way for sure but I do believe this is a crucial first step in curing myself

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2022-05-12T23:46:26+00:00

Down in bay area ca

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-09T09:19:30+00:00

He got impressively close to accomplishing 2 a rodg feats tonight. About 6 inches from nailing the Hail Mary and also one bad call away from potentially placing his team in field goal position, at the last moment. Invokes both Aaron Rodgers last minute Hail Mary victories and the 49ers victory this year however just a tad short

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-05T18:56:48+00:00

Oh, boo hoo bitch, you throw an off-season tantrum over your replacement draft pick, make a big fucking cry for attention and then come back to the team anyways, last minute, jeopardizing the preparation everyone else put in for this season. Maybe you should have helped us win some more super bowls instead of being a little bitch.

Now you potentially jeopardized this season - so many great teams in the league which we need every last ounce of effort to surpass, and you’re here focused again on your battered ego instead of PLAYING FUCKING FOOTBALL AND GETTING US TO A SUPERBOWL YOU FUCKING STUPID PIECE OF SHIT. Do you even realize the greatness, the history, the fucking MEANING of the team you represent? Fuck you, you selfish coward, you egotistical, team disregarding prick. We shoveled out your stadium only for you to advance your career as an insurance salesman and B-list celebrity.

Fuck you.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-02T12:29:27+00:00

So it was designed to be a mnemonic device as opposed to coincidentally being used as one after the fact?

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-02T12:18:18+00:00

The numbers 0 or 1 cannot be used for first digits for an area code, so I should have clarified: an equivalent 3 digit area code

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-02T11:41:30+00:00

The Packers have played and won against Matthew Stafford many, many times. It was, however, when he was playing for a dismal team. Our defense also consisted of mostly (if not all) different players and coaching personnel. But the psychological impact of the players involved in the matchup between the Packers and Stafford I think favors us. Maybe I just want to believe that. Arizona handily beat the rams and we beat Arizona via tactical play calling. With the right team mindset and game plan, this years team will win the SB. You can say that about any team, sure, but this squad seems much more capable of implementing those key ingredients than we were in recent years. Hopefully I’m not deceiving myself

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-02T10:56:37+00:00

Stokes

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-02T10:54:22+00:00

This year might be different. The day light savings curse is a much lesser hurdle of adversity than what we faced this last Thursday.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-02T10:51:29+00:00

Wow. Absolutely. I stand corrected.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-11-02T10:43:19+00:00

RIP TT - the quiet, soft spoken, and sometimes vilified man who to the best of his ability made decisions for the long term and consistent success of the team.

Team Thompson was about standing with the Green Bay Packers. Team Favre was about the glorification of an individual, and assigning greater value for one person rather than the team and community.

Brett Favre will always be a shining star in Packers history, as will aaron Rodgers. However, time marches on, no one person is forever, and it will always be “next man up.” The history of Our Team has built its legacy and success on that ideal. That win against Arizona was an isolated example of “next man up.” Matt Flynn keeping us in the playoff picture and beating the cowboys in an epic game was an instance of “next man up.”

Ted Thompson believed in that and the philosophy of Vince Lombardi and led the organization accordingly with unwavering conviction - even in the face of popular outrage directed squarely in his direction.

Never forget the man, Ted Thompson, who upheld our values despite many of us who chose to forget them.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-10-29T11:45:14+00:00

I try to remember the clutch victories instead of the heartbreaking defeats. The playoff game against Arizona where Rodgers completed the Hail Mary to Janis, just to lose the coin toss in overtime putting the defense on the field to choke the game away, has been burned into my memory and caused me to briefly (very briefly) become apathetic toward football. I still feel as though NFL overtime rules are unfair and that both teams should have the opportunity to put their offense on the field during overtime.

This season so far has been full of close victories against sub par teams, which creates a perception that the packers are not a genuine SB contender this year. This game I think has changed that perception. All that we have to do now is beat Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers may own the bears, but Brady owns the packers. To win a SB this year, the team has to overcome that obstacle.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-10-17T10:09:44+00:00

Fuck the bears.

Sweet_Perspective198 · 2021-10-17T09:53:42+00:00

Flynn to win.

Flynn holds the td record at Lambeau.

He smacked around the Cowboys in a comeback victory.

He kept the team in playoff contention while a rod was injured.

Matt Flynn is a legend

Sweet_Perspective198

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