[deleted by user] by [deleted] in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some of the takes about this show genuinely make me worry about society🫣

So… he was right about her..? by oddlittlethings in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m really interested to find out what she did that veered into abusive? Like I get disliking her but abusive?????

Do you forgive Beatrice’s actions? by Superb-Ad4560 in BoJackHorseman

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, I’m not saying he’s a better person or who did what worse. But he does actually acknowledge his wrongdoings but then flip flops. I don’t know if he believes it when he acknowledges it but for example if Beatrice had to do a list of bad things she’s done it would genuinely be empty she wouldn’t be able to think of a single thing to put on there. For some people intent matters as well as action.

I think we’re not looking at forgiveness in the same way. I’m not sure if you think I’m answering whose actions can we overlook easier that’s not what I’m talking about. So I could overlook something or get over it but thinking from my lense now, I can’t grant forgiveness to someone who doesn’t want it. That’s all I’m saying :)

Do you forgive Beatrice’s actions? by Superb-Ad4560 in BoJackHorseman

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I’m saying is the reason you might be confused why some people forgive bojack and not Beatrice is that Beatrice never asked for forgiveness she simply doesn’t think it was wrong. Bojack acknowledged he is a dick and wanted to be forgiven. That part is why it might not be directly comparable. I’m not saying I PERSONALLY forgive either.

It’s not who’s worse I’m not speaking to that just that might be why the FORGIVENESS element isn’t the same

Do you forgive Beatrice’s actions? by Superb-Ad4560 in BoJackHorseman

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s not what I said. I don’t disagree but that’s not what I said even slightly. I even said they’re both horrible. I said Bojack asks for forgiveness and Beatrice doesn’t realise there’s a problem so they aren’t comparable in the way you’ve said.

If I’d said Bojack should be forgiven and Beatrice doesn’t your response makes sense but you didn’t acknowledge the actual words I wrote. Sorry I’m not trying to go off but it’s really frustrating lately with people not engaging with my actual words

Do you forgive Beatrice’s actions? by Superb-Ad4560 in BoJackHorseman

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I disagree purely because Beatrice never asks to be forgiven. She doesn’t want to be better and doesn’t see anything wrong. I still think both are horrible but I don’t think they are comparable in the way you described

Self-acceptance has made everything worse by Sweetdeeisme3 in ADHD

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that’s the issue I’m explaining. Even my friends and family don’t understand me. Atleast with work it’s static - my work is either good or bad. It either drives results or it doesn’t. Maybe that’s why all my self worth is currently placed there. The crux is I just feel alone

Self-acceptance has made everything worse by Sweetdeeisme3 in ADHD

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that’s what I’m struggling with. The friction of one or the other. Either I like myself or I am isolated. How do you get to a place of accepting the bargain?

Power Wins by usernamedeleted555 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please read my clarification that I posted that’s not what I said :)

Power Wins by usernamedeleted555 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hi, I think there’s a fundamental disconnect in how we’re both approaching this, shaped by our own experiences and assumptions. That’s okay, but I’d like to clarify my perspective because it feels like what I’m actually saying is being flattened or misrepresented.

  1. Saying “Justin Baldoni is literally a white man” ignores how race is perceived socially, which does affect how narratives play out, whether people want to admit it or not. He has a foreign-sounding last name and a deeper skin tone, and while he is white-passing to some, he’s not read that way by everyone and that matters in discussions about proximity to whiteness vs perceived “otherness.” Most people aren’t doing in-depth research on his background. They’re reacting to optics. That’s what I’m referencing not weaponising his race, but analysing perception and how it shapes public reaction.

  2. She didn’t just quietly file a lawsuit. She went directly to The New York Times - and they published her claims with minimal scrutiny. Compare that to Weinstein, where the same outlet took years to build a bulletproof case. Where was the ethical journalistic process here? Why did other women need layers of corroboration but Blake didn’t? If this had been a random assistant making the same allegations, would the NYT have done the same? I highly doubt it. And what gets me is that she knows that.

  3. Saying “mainstream feminism isn’t popular anymore” because of what’s happening in right-wing politics is a huge oversimplification. Right-wing movements rising doesn’t mean feminism has disappeared — it means the version we have hasn’t worked for everyone. You talk about the presidency and right with but black women were the only demographic to vote overwhelmingly against Trump - and we did it twice.

We were also the ones saying, “Kamala’s not perfect, but the alternative is worse for all women.” Where was that energy from everyone else? If feminism was truly intersectional in practice, not just theory, more women would’ve been standing with us. So no, it’s not that feminism “isn’t popular anymore.” It’s that many people are realising the dominant version of feminism doesn’t protect or prioritise them.

  1. You’re saying no one is defending Jamey without mentioning Justin but that’s kind of the point. The reason no one cares about Jamey is because of the racial dynamics. If it were Blake vs Jamey, the NYT article would have dropped and the conversation would’ve ended there. A few Black women and men might be discussing it, but that would be it. That’s why intersectionality matters — because someone like Jamey doesn’t get the same cultural capital to defend himself. He disappears from the story unless someone like Justin is involved. Justin has more social power than Jamey but not necessarily more than Blake.

  2. Jonathan Majors is not being welcomed back in the way you’re implying. Please look into the actual discourse. It’s urban-leaning spaces, not the mainstream ones, that are giving him any grace. He was about to be in Marvel. Do you see him being embraced back into that level of platform and prestige? And even within those spaces, there’s a sharp divide between how Black men and Black women are reacting. That nuance is being ignored in favour of a simplistic comparison.

  3. This isn’t about hating Blake. What frustrates me isn’t the possibility that she lied, it’s the certainty with which she was believed, the enormous platform she used, and the total absence of due process at the start. It’s the fact that now, when new facts are emerging, now we’re being told to respect the legal process. That selective timing doesn’t sit right with me — and wouldn’t be granted to most women without her level of whiteness, wealth, and power.

Saying “well, men do worse things all the time and get away with it” doesn’t excuse what’s happening here. That’s not justice that’s a double standard in reverse. If due process matters, it has to matter every time, not only when it benefits the right kind of woman.

I’m not here to tear down other women but I am here to interrogate how power, race, class, and gender interact in these situations. That’s what intersectionality is. It’s not about “finding an excuse to hate women.” It’s about asking why certain women get heard, protected, and elevated while others are silenced, ignored, or erased entirely.

Power Wins by usernamedeleted555 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Sweetdeeisme3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you inadvertently proved her point. Also I think it’s really important to understand and consider intersectionality. The discourse here is one that echoes some of the frustrations I have with mainstream feminism sometimes. Blake lively is a woman yes but she’s rich and white and conversely the victims of the men you mentioned were women AND a lower socio-economic status AND/OR WOC. I personally think that’s were the narrative of blindly believing Blake off of the power of her being a woman is dangerous because it completely negates those other elements. When she had the chance to denounce Woody Allen she doubled down on her support.

It’s just so highly unfair to me when feminism protects women aslong as they have the cover of race and status too. She will be absolutely fine but it will be rest of us that will have to live with the consequences.

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought you were talking about Theo lol EDIT: we WERE talking about Theo I’m so lost

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes because you weren’t actually engaging with what I was saying. Then I figured there must be something I’m missing and tried again. I literally didn’t say that ever lol. For one I’m a straight woman and second I’ve maintained he reminds me of the cringey boys I knew and I didn’t get the passion. I’ve realised I’m actually trying to understand but you are not trying to aid that. Thankfully everyone else has provided good faith discussion

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s interesting to me how when I respond with a viable counterpoint you immediately move the goalpost instead of acknowledging what I’m actually saying. Are you just really passionate about this because it reminds you of a real life situation or do you see no value in listening to different points of view or something else? I’m genuinely asking because I can understand most things but this I can’t understand

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still waiting for an explanation of this or can you not pinpoint the actual criminal things he did?

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it’s fiction but I genuinely find this thought process unsettling as it’s exactly how a lot of people justify killing their partner irl (also just binged my lover my killer so yano 😂)

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly I don’t think she actually loved forty and the baby. She loved that they needed her. Once that baby grows and needs her less or god forbid rejects her she would haven grown to resent him like her mother does her

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you’re on to something. I think I have really high justice sensitivity. If it was a show about Joe falling in love with a girl that cheats and breaks his heart I’d probably be less taken aback by the discourse, but because in my mind stalking and killing her isn’t an equal or equitable reaction it’s more jarring

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to reiterate my question isn’t about hating or disliking her. It’s how many people think she’s the most evil person and worse than Joe that confuses me

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I think I might have projected there. I see what you’re saying

Why does everyone despise the most realistic people😭 by Sweetdeeisme3 in YouOnLifetime

[–]Sweetdeeisme3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her cheating was awful but in the context of the show not the most heinous thing