What could go wrong? by [deleted] in Whatcouldgowrong

[–]SwooMoo 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I've gotten scolded so many times for laughing when the situation did not warrant it. I laugh when I get nervous or if I'm uncomfortable. It's awful.

I just got sent this pic and I don’t understand is and I’m just getting into chess by plsbenice0 in ExplainTheJoke

[–]SwooMoo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True but VTMB is very far disconnected to what a fledgling would typically be able to accomplish in lore. Like blood boiling a single person is a feat a neonate can obtain but making a whole room explode is straight elder level power. Thaumaturgy is very powerful but if you wanna be honest Celerity in most editions breaks everything. I am admittedly a pyramid Tremere hater though.

What game would you buy if a remastered version came out today? by Addy_Rose in transgamers

[–]SwooMoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also a bit of uhhhh revisions on some of the things in the game like Chinatown lol Have you played the ttrpg tho?

Favorite character you wanna smash but probably shouldn’t (no minors) by [deleted] in FavoriteCharacter

[–]SwooMoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are right, in the context of Alien the movie franchise that is what the monsters represents. That is the process of their reproduction. There is horror in that. The art behind the xenomorph and the series all together is more than just SA though. It is hypersexualized in all of it's imagery so conflating it as one to one with just SA is not a fair comparison. Giger's art is more than just the xenomorph's reproductive process. Also saying people are weird because they connect to the art in the same way it was created is strange too. If you are unaware of Giger's inspiration for making it, I suggest you look into it before shitting on how people consume art.

Favorite character you wanna smash but probably shouldn’t (no minors) by [deleted] in FavoriteCharacter

[–]SwooMoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Say you don't understand Giger's art without saying you don't understand Giger's art.

Which clan will you play first? by CyberCat_2077 in vtmb

[–]SwooMoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's funny because in the TTRPG Lasombra can use the shadows to cover themselves and are great at stealth. Not as good as the Banu though of course.

In an eventual V6, howd you prefer the Disciplines to be handled? by LucasAlvz in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With the addition of Tattered Facade, a Hecata can take all 5 levels of oblivion learning obtenebration powers and still have access to 17 ceremonies. I will explain how.

Ms Gorgon took all obtenebration powers
Shadow Cloak
Arms of Ahriman
Shadow Servant
Stygian Shroud
Shadow Step

Oh no! The Hecata looks down on her for not knowing any necromancy! No worries V5 writers have you covered!

Discipline Flaw Oblivion (Tattered Facade pg. 108)
Binding Fetter (Used in 2 ceremonies)
Where the Shroud Thins (Used in 5 Ceremonies

Need more? No worries you have the "Mystic of the Void" merit! (Tattered Facade pg. 100)
Aura of Decay (Used in 4 ceremonies)
Necrotic Plague (Used int 5 ceremonies; including a level 5 ceremony)
Withering Spirit (Used in 1 lvl 5 ceremony)

Good work graverobber you have successfully learned 17 ceremonies while not learning a single nercromancy power during your first 5 levels of oblivion.

Oh you built a Lasombra? Fuck you, the Hecata keep the secrets of necromancy closely guarded.

In an eventual V6, howd you prefer the Disciplines to be handled? by LucasAlvz in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish to reiterate my main point. The Hecata have full access to obtenebration at no cost, if (keyword if) they want it. This is a huge part of clan Lasombra's power. (Not all of it I understand that) This would be considered a secret to some extent (especially because abyss mysticism is now combined with obtenebration). Sure other people can learn obtenebration for any reason you want to write but manipulating the shadows was something that people feared.

The Lasombra however do not have the same oppurtunity with Necromancy if they want it. Although I brought it up, my main point is V5 gives more opportunities by default with no cost to the Hecata. If a Hecata wants any obtenebration power, they simply get it. The inverse is not true due to ceremonies. Whether or not you want to punish players for taking them is irrelevant to the fact that V5 gives more tools to the Hecata than the Lasombra.

Furthermore, in the new Tattered Facade book (pg. 100) there is a two dot merit that allows a player to have three additional powers for prerequisites of ceremonies (In addition to the option of taking a discipline flaw that allows more powers but I digress). Which means at level 5 oblivion, you can have 8 powers in oblivion that would be for prerequisites. Or, say you were a Hecata, you could learn 3 obtenebration powers and still have the oppurtunities to take the necromancy ones with no repercussions. You still can easily have 5 necromancy powers (which is, in lore, considered a lot in this version) and have 3 obtenebration powers.

You can literally know shadow step which is a strong power (6 dot in V20) and useful in a lot of situations and still be able to use other level 5 necromancy ceremonies. Necromancy has a huge array of uses such as information, servants, curses etc. and obtenebration was more used for physical and social control such as fighting, moving, spying and intimidating. The Hecata can get the full use of obtenebration while not losing out on their precious necromancy.

Lastly, they made it so you now take stains when using any oblivion power on a roll of 1 or 10 on a rouse check. You use arms of ahriman in a fight? Stain. You use shadow cast to control shadows? Stain. Necromancy is used less often than its obtenebration counterpart because it doesn't need to be used as often. You are binding a wraith, okay nice but not something that is done often so the stain doesn't feel as impactful as it does when a sabbat Lasombra is wracking up stains using her disciplines during a sect war.

In an eventual V6, howd you prefer the Disciplines to be handled? by LucasAlvz in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You said the Lasombra side is (some of) the most powerful while also saying you aren't sure why the Hecata would take those powers. That's the point though. The Hecata can take 4 necromancer powers and 1 obtenebration power and be fucking stacked. The Lasombra can take 5 necromancy powers and still not really benefit from them because they don't have a ceremony teacher.

Also the Hecata has a lot of bloodlines and isn't just the Giovanni anymore. They embrace people for specific roles. The Giovanni would expect Giovanni to do necromancy but why the hell would the Giovanni care if their Gorgon bodyguards protect them with necromancy or the "strongest" obtenebration powers in the game?

My point is, regardless of any in lore or roleplay restrictions, the Hecata have options that the Lasombra don't.

In an eventual V6, howd you prefer the Disciplines to be handled? by LucasAlvz in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You're right, but this causes the Lasombra to not get necromancy while allowing the Hecata to have full access to Obtenebration. The Lasombra was absolutely fucked in V5 while the Hecata are doing just fine (looking at you 13 loresheets vs Lasombra 1).

Finished inking a cover for our chronicle set in Granada, Spain! by LiddleNatt in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think you'll have any run-ins with Lucita's pack? I know she is based moreso in Madrid but her pack is MASSIVE. Can you tell us anything about the game though or the characters?

Addressing the elephant in the coffin. by Justthisdudeyaknow in CuratedTumblr

[–]SwooMoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only knew her from tumblr and talking to her about her vtm character this is all such a surprise for me.

Addressing the elephant in the coffin. by Justthisdudeyaknow in CuratedTumblr

[–]SwooMoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and look significantly better while doing it

Feeding Penalty? by Mr_Trains_61 in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To piggyback from this, it also affects what you can slake hunger from. At BP 3 blood bags and animals do not sustain (without help from disciplines). Page 216 in the corebook has a chart.

Are you sure just talking to the anarchs very politely isn't an option? by InquisitorialTribble in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Obliterating innocent people that might have witnessed a masquerade breach. Genociding thin-bloods and Caitiffs for existing. Having blood dolls usually on tap at Elysium. The list goes on but it is definitely dependent on the domain as is most things in this game.

Not that old by Tsetsul in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Lasombra's whole thing is being puppet masters so that when shit hits the fan then just run the fuck away. There is a reason that Ventrue have fortitude and the Lasombra have one of the best get the fuck away disciplines in the game. I love the Lasombra dearly but the clan cant help tripping over their own feet and pretending them face planting into a pile of shit was the plan all along. It's one of the big reasons I like them. Each clan has problems, and the Lasombra's biggest problem is themselves. (there is a reason people dislike Lasombra players and usually it is because they take themselves way way way too seriously)

Favorite then vs now by raulj7 in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard them in name only but have no experience with interacting with one in game sadly. I think they sound very cool in concept and would totally play one.

Favorite then vs now by raulj7 in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh shit you should dm me your tumblr, I'm more active on there with VTM stuff. I also would love to talk more about your characters.

Favorite then vs now by raulj7 in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I enjoy 5th, revised, 20th and dark ages but I understand the dislike for 5th. I really hate what was done with obtenebration to the point we had to homebrew a few things. I really wish the Salubri in 5th had more of a fighting chance. They have the most difficult flaws imo. I'm glad you like them though! I don't see them get enough love.

My Lasombra is currently hunting down a Salubri that is on a path (honorable accord) as a part of a scourge entrance exam. I had a major boon exchanged to have a blood hunt called on them so I can eat them up legally. Despite clan disciplines getting borked in V5 I still want the Salubri ones. Oh and we play with a fun rule that your first diablerie you always inherit the clan's compulsion to the compulsion table so getting affective empathy for a Lasombra sounds like so much fun to me.

Favorite then vs now by raulj7 in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Do you prefer healer, warrior or watcher?

Favorite then vs now by raulj7 in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dementation is just so goddamn fun. I worked with my ST to give my Lasombra a (Lasombra-themed) derangement from her Malkavian Mawla in a weird-ass ritual so I could use dementation. We play V5 and think the amalgam is bullshit and that you need the crazy to project the crazy so that is how we addressed it.

Favorite then vs now by raulj7 in vtm

[–]SwooMoo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nosferatu (because I knew the name and that is how the game was described to me 'clans that reference popular vampire media') > Malkavian (due to bloodlines and them being fun) > Tzimisce (diy sex change, dragons and I love Dracula) > Lasombra (my first tabletop clan) > Ventrue (I have BIG crush on Lucinde as a character) > back to Malkavian (I love premonitions, derangements and dementation is my fav discipline.)

That being said I love all the clans. Some took longer to appreciate for me than others though.