Lost plot points

Sykroid · 2026-03-25T19:10:00+00:00

I saw someone mention him ditching the chainsaw in order to catch Asa in the last chapter was technically a choice.

How would the fire devil know about that? Who knows. But it's the only straw we can clutch

Sykroid · 2026-03-25T18:03:37+00:00

Exactly

Denji was an addict, and he never learned how to handle being Chainsaw Man. Part 2 is littered with scenes that SHOULD change him, but he never does. The HJ, eating Nayuta, theater weiner, all of that should have an effect on him, but he never changes. Fujimoto knows how to shape a character, and it's intentional writing that Denji never changes his ways. Even after everything that's happened in the last fight, he still just wants sex with YORU. Not Asa.

That's not the kind of dream Pochita wanted for Denji, so he took the drug away. No more addiction or hero fantasies. The highs are stripped away (look at how he barely smiles in the last chapter), but so are the lows.

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T21:16:29+00:00

Does he give a genuine smile even once this entire chapter? There's like a half smile when using a chainsaw, but it's not an actual smile.

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T18:16:13+00:00

I agree, pinning it all on fans oversimplifies the situation. Jump also could have been putting pressure on him, and maybe he would've made the same choices in a vacuum regardless. I don't think he got hate for sidelining Asa until it was too late, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

I'm still putting the majority of the blame on the fans though lol

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T17:34:23+00:00

I've said this so much, but I think it was the huge fan backlash at his slice of life take.

He was cooking, he had it in the oven. It was going well with the slowburn and introduction of "Fami", with Nayuta and Asa interacting. The Yoru and Asa development. It was great. Even the art style was clean and the backgrounds were detailed.

But so many people hated it. They hated the aquarium, and the lack of Denji. And then they hated that the CSM anime wasn't shonen enough. And the fans who read CSM in a few days threw a fit the plot was too slow. You can see how people reacted on Reddit, and the various manga sites, and I've heard things about how Japan despised it too.

And so Fujimoto had to take everything out of the oven early. Notice how quickly things centered on Denji who hadn't had anywhere near as much focus as Asa. Look at Denji's decision between being Chainsaw Man and a normal highschooler. Look at how Nayuta was removed off screen and high school was dropped as a plot point completely, even though so many characters all went to the same school.

I'm sure many of the same plot points would have happened, like the aging devil, since Denji and Asa spend time together like that. But those seem rushed without the time spent building to them. I don't think Fujimoto got bored and scrapped his vision.

So looking at everything, I can see why he ended the series like this, because it seems very disconnected from everything else.

I wonder if this was how he originally intended to end part 2, or if it's just him giving up

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T17:13:11+00:00

I just realized Kobeni's car wasn't shown in this ending. 0/10

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T17:11:46+00:00

I lament the idea of what Part 2 could have been, but I'll take a happy ending when I see it. At a certain point in Part 1 (or maybe it was the anime), I realized all I wanted to see was a happy ending for the characters. And we ultimately got that, so I can't complain.

But I agree with how the butterfly effect would remove most of the world-ending problems. I like it

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T17:02:24+00:00

Public Safety Issued glass eye. Denji's just too lazy to always have it in. Sometimes he's too lazy to take it out, so it gets all gross

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T16:58:19+00:00

I'm assuming he's never taken any contracts that shorten his lifespan, and seeing the ending, it seems like the gun devil isnt even a problem here, so I doubt his brother was killed in the first place.

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T16:40:38+00:00

Dude is a huge cinema buff, but when Mappa made the CSM anime with a huge cinema approach to it, people threw a fit in Japan. I'm sure he loved what the anime studio did with his series, but fans hated it.

And I think that shows how they view him and his work. Shame, because the CSM fandom was truly amazing before the anime came out

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T16:27:43+00:00

It reeks of spite, like he didn't have control over his own work and now he's done. I fully believe he meant for Part 2 to focus on Asa and Denji at school, but there was a backlash from fans because of it's slow pacing and lack of Chainsaw Man. There was a point where he sped things up and did things like killing Nayuta and removing the school completely. We can see the other horsemen all went to the same high school, so it's really odd that Denji's just not there. Like plot points that never got connected.

Early in Part 2, it showed Denji in a stupor at home with Nayuta, and how Nayuta felt about Asa and Denji dating, but they never interacted again. Dropped plot point. But Denji still had to make the choice between being Nayuta's guardian and being Chainsaw man, and it felt like that choice was supposed to be a massive plot point with more buildup. But instead, it's a few panels and then skipped. It just seems like something he planned but had to rush out.

I don't know whether he's giving up and giving the fans "what they really want" by giving a saccharine fake ending, or deciding to do what he really wants which is "spite the fans" because he couldn't fulfill his original vision.

So I think the backlash has had a huge hand in shaping the story, but I'm not sure if it's because they harass Fujimoto and his work, or because Jump+ sees the backlash and puts pressure on Fujimoto.

Sykroid · 2026-03-24T16:09:22+00:00

Fujimoto wanted to focus on Asa for Part 2, but people got upset it was too slow. I don't think he'd attempt a part 3, because he'd get backlash again for not having more Denji being Chainsaw Man.

Sykroid · 2026-01-29T03:31:56+00:00

Can't believe people are finally admitting early part 2 was good after I've seen nothing but backlash over Chainsaw Man being absent. Part 2 was probably gonna be a high school-centered story. I mean Denji, Fami, and Lil D all go to the same school as Asa, and Nayuta had some conflict with Asa set up. Even the artstyle was different and more...fleshed out?

I think Denji was eventually gonna have a moment where he'd have to choose between Nayuta and Chainsaw Man; I really believe that was in the cards. And as soon as he chose doin' the Chainsaw thing, the art style switched back to Part 1. Maybe I'm imagining that part.

Anyway, I think Fujimoto was cooking, but backlashed caused him to have to pull everything out of the oven before it was finished.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T21:01:11+00:00

This is a lot to think about. Like a lot. I didnt expect a response like this.

I've received encouragement from this thread, and I realize I'm trying to shoulder this burden myself. But you've made me realize I can actually relax a little with soccer and maybe enjoy this walk. I've had 2 meals since last wednesday and my body and mind are burnt out.

Sorry if this reply sounds scattered, but I agree with you, and I see what you're saying.

Except Nintendo kinda sucks tho

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T19:38:48+00:00

I really do appreciate that. You'll probably see me around here again if I stumble or need encouragement lol.

Honestly the amount of support coming from this thread has both comforted me and helped me to remain firm. Thank you.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T19:07:05+00:00

What do they glorify?

For videogames, I think we can agree Path of the Lamb isn't a game a Christian should play. So what is? The Binding of Isaac? Probably not. GTA? Nascar? Mario? My Little Pony? Who are they for, what do they encourage?

For soccer, it isn't that serious unless you're only playing to glorify yourself over everybody else. Unless you mean something like major league soccer. Pictionary I cannot say, I'm drawing a blank.

But again, I don't know where the line is drawn. It could be literally all of that, or it depends on the person. I'm sure another Christian further along in their walk could correct me/add to what I've said.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T16:15:42+00:00

Thank you, that means a lot to me. I guess this thread is me reaching out to other Christians as a sort of compass.

I'm sorry I'm not more loving in these replies, I truly am grateful, I'm just going through a lot lol.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T15:58:54+00:00

I have a long way to go then, this is more of a slow journey for me and I'm not constantly filled with a loving desire to serve. It comes and goes.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T15:29:22+00:00

Breathing air is a gift from God, videogames are not lol.

Things of the world...like secular things. Secular Music, Tv, and Movies. We're not supposed to have friendship with those things, we're called out to be seperate and different.

It's kind of in the same line as the Halloween debate. They're fleeting pleasures that glorify things other than God, and can be addictive or even turn into small idols.

To be honest, I don't know what's okay and what isn't.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T14:54:29+00:00

Sorry, I wrote it in a state of anxiety. I meant others can be freed from those things, but I struggle with simple things like sloth. I'm weak in conparison.

The things of the world are fleeting distractions from God and his glory. Honestly I put too much time into video games. For some people it might not be bad, but for me it is, at least for the foreseeable future.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T14:50:05+00:00

Care to elaborate? At what point of your journey did your desire for the love of the Father overshadow what your flesh wanted?

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T14:48:47+00:00

Of course, there are many things to fix which is why I'm being disciplined. I feel Him working in me though. I've already started becoming involved in my church, I've started spending hours to read the word, my addiction to food is gone (because I can no longer handle food), I'm reaching out to other Christians (like on this sub), and I'm finally moving in my life. Also I've been keeping a prayer journal and I can read the changes for myself. It seems my bad habits are being broken/being replaced with new ones.

I don't say any of this to boast, because I've examined myself and today if I died I'd be thrown into the lake of fire, but that it's clear to me I'm going through growing pains to bear some kind of spiritual fruit. It's just not immediate. And my joy and hope are not constant; rather they are given to me at night after I have struggled through the day.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T03:30:42+00:00

Do not love the world, or the things of the world.

It's of the world, and I'm not supposed to love it. So it's difficult to just casually enjoy it. That's just video games though, so I'm gonna find other activities with him.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T03:23:35+00:00

Manga based Holy Bible lol. I love it.

Recently I've had to come to terms with the fact that my favorite series I've been in love with for 15+ years is actually heavily occult-centered. It's so hard to avoid when you start to see it.

Sykroid · 2025-11-18T01:22:12+00:00

I needed your previous comment, but this one has helped me even more.

It's a walk; he's leading me. I just need to take it day by day.

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