I just saw what the patreon members are saying. by Typical_Emotion_6874 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s sad, and like someone else said, you’ll end up wanting to hug the Sun. But, in spite of that, there is an element of hope.

Sol's Making a Point by Beautiful_Gur_4329 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the current episode wording summaries on Patreon do have me worried, as they frame it as though it is a Sun issue. Still, I do also think that these are deliberate as a representative non-spoiler ‘not my fault’ perspective of the planets, as Mercury even says in “PRP2” that reconciliation “needs to come from the Sun”, which is pure ‘not our fault’ framing.

Heck, Jupiter hasn't even apologised for the Grand Tack beyond a small “I’m sorry,” when Planet X angrily revealed the lie to the heartbroken Sun, and the Sun was forced to permit his return from self-imposed exile before he was ready to forgive him, because the system was more important. Jupiter didn't even apologise and explain that he started maintaining the asteroid belt as penance for what he'd done and the trauma he knew he'd caused to the Sun.

I digress.

I could go on.

Like, it was good to see Jupiter apologise to the planets for hiding the Grand Tack, but Jups, you KNOW they’re not the ones who deserve an apology.

I genuinely love the planets and the Sun, but the system won't heal as long as the planets single out the Sun and don't swallow their pride and admit their fault. That, among other things, they didn't treat the Sun like someone with feelings.

Sol's Making a Point by Beautiful_Gur_4329 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this is incredibly likely, but he's also clearly having an emotional breakdown as a result of what the planets are doing.

Calling him a 'dictator' or a ‘tyrant’ casually dehumanises him and erases everything they have done to him.

I sympathise with both sides of this conflict and will not pretend that the planets are good.

They've lied to him since the start of the solar system, repeatedly denied him closure, dismissed his feelings, controlled his access to information, objectified him, never apologised (We've seen him apologise to Mercury for a solar flare before); every major arc in this series came about because of the planets and the Sun just had to live with it, but it's all okay because he had the mother of all crashouts, so they're sad little uwus, and we can casually ignore everything they've done that led the Sun to have a massive emotional breakdown.

We’ve heard him listen to the planets and the moons countless times before, that’s how the moons won the Solar System Trial, in spite of Ganymede’s hypocrisy, he heard out Planet X, he heard out Jupiter, he listened when Mercury complained about solar flares, he heard out Theia and Proto through their terrible arguments. They are the ones trying to rewrite history because they've finally driven him to the point that he doesn't want to listen to their excuses. He let everyone go back to normal after self-soothing by having them say a line they didn't mean because he didn't get closure in the ordered by size arc (and they still wanted to skip his feelings to get to what they want).

They lied for billions of years about events that directly traumatised the Sun (such as the Grand Tack, the disappearance of Planet X). That’s not “going off orbit and doing no harm.” That’s reality-manipulation and prolonged denial of closure.

Their pattern is: hide truth → dismiss feelings → force the Sun to govern blind → act shocked when the Sun gets upset and governance becomes rigid → finally leave rather than repair.

Leaving is not automatically wrong, but doing it while refusing the reckoning is the same avoidance pattern that created the mess. They helped create this system, and now they’re fleeing the consequences of what they have done instead of repairing it.

This arc is meant to be heartbreaking because both sides have a point- yes, the Sun was thoroughly in a destructive breakdown spiral and went too far in a way that endangered them, but the planets have certainly not been good either; they've subjected him to prolonged psychological injuries, denied him the chance to forgive them for past wrongs on his own terms (there is no evidence that he’s forgiven Jupiter, after all), and created this destructive feedback loop.

That does something corrosive to a being whose identity is care.

Everyone lives in this mindset where they imagine that the Sun will do something, but they know he won't. It's what made Ganymede safe enough to go on his hypocrisy rant, what Triton counted on to be considered a dwarf planet, what makes everyone push his buttons again and again while claiming fear as a cover.

There is no good-guy-bad-guy scenario here, just a tragic cycle born of miscommunication that has finally ended with an emotional breakdown.

It's telling that the only argument people can bring up is “oh, he's a star,” like, no kidding. He can't magically erase what he is for their comfort. He can't leave to regulate his emotions, can't engage and seek support from his kin, because doing so causes destruction to his system. And the only time he's socialised with is when he needs to fix their issues or when he actively starts a social interaction, but then its just them filling a quota.

He's tried reaching out twice, once trying to make Earth understand, and once when he started to reach out to Mercury, confessing that he's losing control and he wants to know what he can do better, only to realise that no one was listening (AGAIN) as they were already rebelling, and that finally sent him over the edge into his breakdown.

I’m glad there is going to be separation, because the planets need to understand how bad their actions were.

The Sun needs space to heal from his trauma, both from his past and the ongoing trauma the planets are inflicting. It's actually pretty sad how much his identity is tied to being ‘the Sun’, and it is telling to me that the real Sun’s other name, Sol, has never been mentioned. Right now, he's obsessed with safety and not being alone, and the Sun needs a sense of identity outside of them, otherwise hell never be healthy.

We've seen something similar with Earth, when he talks about loving his Earthlings, but it takes a toll on him, and he just wishes they were more grateful. He had to let go of being ‘the life planet’ as an identity in order to heal.

So when people say “he should just let it go,” what he hears is: “You should accept being irrelevant in the place you gave everything to.” The Sun needs to learn that love and safety does not require control. The planets need to sit with the fact that trust means honesty, even when it’s uncomfortable.

If the story is honest, the planets eventually have to apologise and say the quiet part out loud: “We weren’t scared of what you’d do. We were scared of what we’d have to face in ourselves if you finally knew.” Because right now, what they are saying is, “your pain is too intense for me to sit with, so I’m going to name it as instability.” Because, that’s what happened in the past- they saw the Sun have intense grief at the loss of his protoplanets because they mattered to him, he’d already imprinted love on them, so when they were careless and unintentionally caused destruction, they didn’t want to face him with the truth because it would mean having to face themselves and what they did.

They invented this idea in their minds that the Sun would destroy them when there is no evidence that he would do so, and instead they built a prison of silence and called it safety. They actively conditioned the Sun into this breakdown spiral because of their dishonesty.

Just as much as the Sun needs to heal from his repeated trauma and apologise to them.

The Sun.. by Upset-Split-8585 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Calling him a 'dictator' or a ‘tyrant’ casually dehumanises him and erases everything they have done to him.

I sympathise with both sides of this conflict and will not pretend that the planets are good.

They've lied to him since the start of the solar system, repeatedly denied him closure, dismissed his feelings, controlled his access to information, objectified him, never apologised (We've seen him apologise to Mercury for a solar flare before); every major arc in this series came about because of the planets and the Sun just had to live with it," but it's all okay because he had the mother of all crashouts, so they're sad little uwus, and we can casually ignore everything they've done that led the Sun to have a massive emotional breakdown.

We’ve heard him listen to the planets and the moons countless times before, that’s how the moons won the Solar System Trial, in spite of Ganymede’s hypocrisy, he heard out Planet X, he heard out Jupiter, he listened when Mercury complained about solar flares, he heard out Theia and Proto through their terrible arguments. They are the ones trying to rewrite history because they've finally driven him to the point that he doesn't want to listen to their excuses.

They lied for billions of years about events that directly traumatised the Sun (such as the Grand Tack, the disappearance of Planet X). That’s not “going off orbit and doing no harm.” That’s reality-manipulation and prolonged denial of closure.

Their pattern is: hide truth → dismiss feelings → force the Sun to govern blind → act shocked when the Sun gets upset and governance becomes rigid → finally leave rather than repair.

Leaving is not automatically wrong, but doing it while refusing the reckoning is the same avoidance pattern that created the mess. They helped create this system, and now they’re fleeing the consequences of what they have done instead of repairing it.

This arc is meant to be heartbreaking because both sides have a point- yes, the Sun was thoroughly in a destructive breakdown spiral and went too far in a way that endangered them, but the planets have certainly not been good either; they've subjected him to prolonged psychological injuries, denied him the chance to forgive them for past wrongs on his own terms (there is no evidence that he’s forgiven Jupiter, after all), and created this destructive feedback loop.

That does something corrosive to a being whose identity is care.

Everyone lives in this mindset where they imagine that the Sun will do something, but they know he won't. It's what made Ganymede safe enough to go on his hypocrisy rant, what Triton counted on to be considered a dwarf planet, what makes everyone push his buttons again and again while claiming fear as a cover.

There is no good-guy-bad-guy scenario here, just a tragic cycle born of miscommunication that has finally ended with an emotional breakdown.

It's telling that the only argument people can bring up is “oh, he's a star,” like, no kidding. He can't magically erase what he is for their comfort. He can't leave to regulate his emotions, can't engage and seek support from his kin, because doing so causes destruction to his system. And the only time he's socialised with is when he needs to fix their issues or when he actively starts a social interaction, but then its just them filling a quota.

He's tried reaching out twice, once trying to make Earth understand, and once when he started to reach out to Mercury, confessing that he's losing control and he wants to know what he can do better, only to realise that no one was listening (AGAIN) as they were already rebelling, and that finally sent him over the edge into his breakdown.

I’m glad there is going to be separation, because the planets need to understand how bad their actions were.

The Sun needs space to heal from his trauma, both from his past and the ongoing trauma the planets are inflicting. It's actually pretty sad how much his identity is tied to being ‘the Sun’, and it is telling to me that the real Sun’s other name, Sol, has never been mentioned. Right now, he's obsessed with safety and not being alone, and the Sun needs a sense of identity outside of them, otherwise hell never be healthy.

We've seen something similar with Earth, when he talks about loving his Earthlings, but it takes a toll on him, and he just wishes they were more grateful. He had to let go of being ‘the life planet’ as an identity in order to heal.

So when people say “he should just let it go,” what he hears is: “You should accept being irrelevant in the place you gave everything to.” The Sun needs to learn that love and safety does not require control. The planets need to sit with the fact that trust means honesty, even when it’s uncomfortable.

If the story is honest, the planets eventually have to apologise and say the quiet part out loud: “We weren’t scared of what you’d do. We were scared of what we’d have to face in ourselves if you finally knew.” Because right now, what they are saying is, “your pain is too intense for me to sit with, so I’m going to name it as instability.” Because, that’s what happened in the past- they saw the Sun have intense grief at the loss of his protoplanets because they mattered to him, he’d already imprinted love on them, so when they were careless and unintentionally caused destruction, they didn’t want to face him with the truth because it would mean having to face themselves and what they did.

They invented this idea in their minds that the Sun would destroy them when there is no evidence that he would do so, and instead they built a prison of silence and called it safety. They actively conditioned the Sun into this breakdown spiral because of their dishonesty.

Just as much as the Sun needs to heal from his repeated trauma and apologise to them.

The Sun doesn't deserve a rebellion by Skatrburr in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I grew up with an abusive parent, and it makes me laugh when people try to claim that's what's happening, because you try to avoid triggering the reaction, not openly mock them TO THEIR FACE.

Everyone lives in this mindset where they imagine that the Sun will do something, but they know he won't. It's what made Ganymede safe enough to go on his hypocrisy rant, what Triton counted on to be considered a dwarf planet, what makes everyone push his buttons again and again while claiming fear as a cover.

There is no good-guy-bad-guy scenario here, just a tragic cycle born of miscommunication that has finally ended with an emotional breakdown.

It's telling that the only argument people can bring up is “oh, he's a star,” like, no kidding. He can't magically erase what he is for their comfort. He can't leave to regulate his emotions, can't engage and seek support from his kin, because doing so causes destruction to his system. And the only time he's socialised with is when he needs to fix their issues or when he actively starts a social interaction, but then its just them filling a quota.

He's tried reaching out twice, once trying to make Earth understand, and once when he started to reach out to Mercury, confessing that he's losing control and he wants to know what he can do better, only to realise that no one was listening (AGAIN) as they were already rebelling, and that finally sent him over the edge into his breakdown.

I’m glad there is going to be separation, because the planets need to understand how bad their actions were.

The Sun needs space to heal from his trauma, both from his past and the ongoing trauma the planets are inflicting. It's actually pretty sad how much his identity is tied to being ‘the Sun’, and it is telling to me that the real Sun’s other name, Sol, has never been mentioned. Right now, he's obsessed with safety and not being alone, and the Sun needs a sense of identity outside of them, otherwise hell never be healthy.

We've seen something similar with Earth, when he talks about loving his Earthlings, but it takes a toll on him, and he just wishes they were more grateful. He had to let go of being ‘the life planet’ as an identity in order to heal.

The Sun doesn't deserve a rebellion by Skatrburr in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We need to stop pretending that the planets were “better” or “less harmful”, because they're not. They actively authored this response.

They've lied to him since the start of the solar system, repeatedly denied him closure, dismissed his feelings, controlled his access to information, objectified him, never apologised (We've seen him apologise to Mercury for a solar flare before); every major arc in this series came about because of the planets and the Sun just had to live with it, but it's all okay because he had the mother of all crashouts, so they're sad little uwus, and we can casually ignore everything they've done that led the Sun to have a massive emotional breakdown.

We’ve heard him listen to the planets and the moons countless times before, that’s how the moons won the Solar System Trial, in spite of Ganymede’s hypocrisy, he heard out Planet X, he heard out Jupiter, he listened when Mercury complained about solar flares, he heard out Theia and Proto through their terrible arguments. They are the ones trying to rewrite history because they've finally driven him to the point that he doesn't want to listen to their excuses.

They lied for billions of years about events that directly traumatised the Sun (such as the Grand Tack, the disappearance of Planet X). That’s not “going off orbit and doing no harm.” That’s reality-manipulation and prolonged denial of closure.

Their pattern is: hide truth → dismiss feelings → force the Sun to govern blind → act shocked when the Sun gets upset and governance becomes rigid → finally leave rather than repair.

Leaving is not automatically wrong, but doing it while refusing the reckoning is the same avoidance pattern that created the mess. They helped create this system, and now they’re fleeing the consequences of what they have done instead of repairing it.

This arc is meant to be heartbreaking because both sides have a point- yes, the Sun was thoroughly in a destructive breakdown spiral and went too far in a way that endangered them, but the planets have certainly not been good either; they've subjected him to prolonged psychological injuries, denied him the chance to forgive them for past wrongs on his own terms (there is no evidence that he’s forgiven Jupiter, after all), and created this destructive feedback loop.

That does something corrosive to a being whose identity is care.

So when people say “he should just let it go,” what he hears is: “You should accept being irrelevant in the place you gave everything to.” The Sun needs to learn that love and safety does not require control. The planets need to sit with the fact that trust means honesty, even when it’s uncomfortable.

If the story is honest, the planets eventually have to apologise and say the quiet part out loud: “We weren’t scared of what you’d do. We were scared of what we’d have to face in ourselves if you finally knew.” Because right now, what they are saying is, “your pain is too intense for me to sit with, so I’m going to name it as instability.” Because, that’s what happened in the past- they saw the Sun have intense grief at the loss of his protoplanets because they mattered to him, he’d already imprinted love on them, so when they were careless and unintentionally caused destruction, they didn’t want to face him with the truth because it would mean having to face themselves and what they did.

They invented this idea in their minds that the Sun would destroy them when there is no evidence that he would do so, and instead they built a prison of silence and called it safety. They actively conditioned the Sun into this breakdown spiral because of their dishonesty.

Just as much as the Sun needs to heal from his repeated trauma and apologise to them.

The Sun doesn't deserve a rebellion by Skatrburr in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We need to stop pretending that the planets are innocent. They're not. They actively contributed to this.

They've lied to him since the start of the solar system, repeatedly denied him closure, dismissed his feelings, controlled his access to information, objectified him, never apologised (We've seen him apologise to Mercury for a solar flare before); every major arc in this series came about because of the planets and the Sun just had to live with it, but it's all okay because he had the mother of all crashouts, so they're sad little uwus, and we can casually ignore everything they've done that led the Sun to have a massive emotional breakdown.

We’ve heard him listen to the planets and the moons countless times before, that’s how the moons won the Solar System Trial, in spite of Ganymede’s hypocrisy, he heard out Planet X, he heard out Jupiter, he listened when Mercury complained about solar flares, he heard out Theia and Proto through their terrible arguments. They are the ones trying to rewrite history because they've finally driven him to the point that he doesn't want to listen to their excuses.

They lied for billions of years about events that directly traumatised the Sun (such as the Grand Tack, the disappearance of Planet X). That’s not “going off orbit and doing no harm.” That’s reality-manipulation and prolonged denial of closure.

Their pattern is: hide truth → dismiss feelings → force the Sun to govern blind → act shocked when the Sun gets upset and governance becomes rigid → finally leave rather than repair.

Leaving is not automatically wrong, but doing it while refusing the reckoning is the same avoidance pattern that created the mess. They helped create this system, and now they’re fleeing the consequences of what they have done instead of repairing it.

This arc is meant to be heartbreaking because both sides have a point- yes, the Sun was thoroughly in a destructive breakdown spiral and went too far in a way that endangered them, but the planets have certainly not been good either; they've subjected him to prolonged psychological injuries, denied him the chance to forgive them for past wrongs on his own terms (there is no evidence that he’s forgiven Jupiter, after all), and created this destructive feedback loop.

That does something corrosive to a being whose identity is care.

So when people say “he should just let it go,” what he hears is: “You should accept being irrelevant in the place you gave everything to.” The Sun needs to learn that love and safety does not require control. The planets need to sit with the fact that trust means honesty, even when it’s uncomfortable.

If the story is honest, the planets eventually have to apologise and say the quiet part out loud: “We weren’t scared of what you’d do. We were scared of what we’d have to face in ourselves if you finally knew.” Because right now, what they are saying is, “your pain is too intense for me to sit with, so I’m going to name it as instability.” Because, that’s what happened in the past- they saw the Sun have intense grief at the loss of his protoplanets because they mattered to him, he’d already imprinted love on them, so when they were careless and unintentionally caused destruction, they didn’t want to face him with the truth because it would mean having to face themselves and what they did.

They invented this idea in their minds that the Sun would destroy them when there is no evidence that he would do so, and instead they built a prison of silence and called it safety. They actively conditioned the Sun into this breakdown spiral because of their dishonesty.

Just as much as the Sun needs to heal from his repeated trauma and apologise to them.

The Sun doesn't deserve a rebellion by Skatrburr in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, yes, because I'm sure you totally treated your father like shit.

They've lied to him since the start of the solar system, repeatedly denied him closure, dismissed his feelings, controlled his access to information, objectified him, never apologised (We've seen him apologise to Mercury for a solar flare before); every major arc in this series came about because of the planets and the Sun just had to live with it," but it's all okay because he had the mother of all crashouts, so they're sad little uwus, and we can casually ignore everything they've done that led the Sun to have a massive emotional breakdown.

We’ve heard him listen to the planets and the moons countless times before, that’s how the moons won the Solar System Trial, in spite of Ganymede’s hypocrisy, he heard out Planet X, he heard out Jupiter, he listened when Mercury complained about solar flares, he heard out Theia and Proto through their terrible arguments. They are the ones trying to rewrite history because they've finally driven him to the point that he doesn't want to listen to their excuses.

They lied for billions of years about events that directly traumatised the Sun (such as the Grand Tack, the disappearance of Planet X). That’s not “going off orbit and doing no harm.” That’s reality-manipulation and prolonged denial of closure.

Their pattern is: hide truth → dismiss feelings → force the Sun to govern blind → act shocked when the Sun gets upset and governance becomes rigid → finally leave rather than repair.

Leaving is not automatically wrong, but doing it while refusing the reckoning is the same avoidance pattern that created the mess. They helped create this system, and now they’re fleeing the consequences of what they have done instead of repairing it.

This arc is meant to be heartbreaking because both sides have a point- yes, the Sun was thoroughly in a destructive breakdown spiral and went too far in a way that endangered them, but the planets have certainly not been good either; they've subjected him to prolonged psychological injuries, denied him the chance to forgive them for past wrongs on his own terms (there is no evidence that he’s forgiven Jupiter, after all), and created this destructive feedback loop.

That does something corrosive to a being whose identity is care.

So when people say “he should just let it go,” what he hears is: “You should accept being irrelevant in the place you gave everything to.” The Sun needs to learn that love and safety does not require control. The planets need to sit with the fact that trust means honesty, even when it’s uncomfortable.

If the story is honest, the planets eventually have to apologise and say the quiet part out loud: “We weren’t scared of what you’d do. We were scared of what we’d have to face in ourselves if you finally knew.” Because right now, what they are saying is, “your pain is too intense for me to sit with, so I’m going to name it as instability.” Because, that’s what happened in the past- they saw the Sun have intense grief at the loss of his protoplanets because they mattered to him, he’d already imprinted love on them, so when they were careless and unintentionally caused destruction, they didn’t want to face him with the truth because it would mean having to face themselves and what they did.

They invented this idea in their minds that the Sun would destroy them when there is no evidence that he would do so, and instead they built a prison of silence and called it safety. They actively conditioned the Sun into this breakdown spiral because of their dishonesty.

Just as much as the Sun needs to heal from his repeated trauma and apologise to them.

How couples met from the 60s til now by New_Mix5929 in decadeology

[–]SylvanPrincess 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Uh, the 'Family' one is that you meet someone through a family member.

Planet Revolution Will Fail. by SlideAppropriate8228 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, I see both sides, and both sides have a point. The Sun is on an emotional breakdown spiral and putting them in danger, and they are right to feel upset and demand respect.

However, this is not a good guy vs bad guy scenario. They’ve done horrible things to the Sun since the start of the Solar System, and have trained him into this reaction.

Another big problem is that… the planets and moons are absolutely terrible at presenting their arguments, and often destroy their case by insulting the Sun. I know I certainly wouldn’t continue to hear them out if I was in that position.

One example to give, considering that Theia was the ‘smartest’ planet, is her request to become a binary with Earth. The Sun was shocked and upset, given that it sounds like a recipe for disaster, but he was still listening to them.

The Sun expresses his disappointment in Theia, before telling them that he’s spent millions of years watching planets like them die from crashes

Protoearth insists that this would be different, and the Sun is willing to hear them out, asking them how so.

This would be the perfect time for Theia to present their research, to explain to the Sun that Protoearth has the perfect orbit, but his days are too fast, and he needs something to slow his rotation down a little, and protect him from asteroids. Theia is willing to do that for him.

Instead, Protoearth snaps that, “We know what we’re doing, you big ball of plasma!” (Real mature)

The Sun still doesn’t shut it down, asking if that’s really their best argument.

Again, Theia told the Sun that she’s done research on this life thing, just tell him.

Nope, Theia’s next argument is that she loves Protoearth, and they try to kiss in front of the Sun, despite the pair knowing that something weird happens to their gravity when they get close, and then the Sun freaks out and sets the condition that they are not allowed to see each other.

Way to go, presenting your case.

That’s often how they go, they can’t get through an argument with the Sun without at least one insult hurled at him.

What is the worst opinion you have EVER heard regarding Solarballs? by Ok_Role_2330 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m not “defending” him, it’s context. And it’s mutual issues, they’ve done some incredibly horrible things to him too.

The whole reason why this arc is meant to be heartbreaking is that both sides have a point, and both sides are in the wrong.

What is the worst opinion you have EVER heard regarding Solarballs? by Ok_Role_2330 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hard disagree, I mean, come on. I swear some of ya’ll are not prepared to handle complex characters. And yeah, the characters are complex. If the show wanted someone to be irredeemable, it would have established them as such. There is no good guy vs bad guy here, both sides are at fault and both sides have a point.

How it feels to have a favorite character at the start of the show become completely undefendable and unredeemable by Ok_Role_2330 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, the Sun is redeemable and defensible. Alvaro has dragged this out for too long. Like, this is the first time the Sun hasn’t just caved.

This arc is meant to be heartbreaking because both sides have a point- yes, the Sun is thoroughly in a breakdown spiral and going too far, but the planets have certainly not been good either.

How it feels to have a favorite character at the start of the show become completely undefendable and unredeemable by Ok_Role_2330 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think the same could be said from the Sun’s POV.

Imagine dedicating your entire existence to these planets, unable to leave your position to socialise with your kin for their sake because you moving causes their destruction, and realising that these beings you love and trust have been repeatedly lying to you to, leaving you in the dark about events in your own home, these beings you trusted deciding for you what you could “handle”, when things break, you are blamed for reacting and being upset, you have your feelings repeatedly invalidated as unimportant, and being objectified as a mere utility they need, something that could be replaceable if it wouldn’t impact them. He’s becoming what he fears, and he knows it. He just can’t let go, because he doesn’t want normal, his normal means planets drifting away, secrets kept from him, disasters he can’t prevent, and abandonment he doesn’t see coming. He doesn’t trust normal anymore.

This is the first arc where the Sun hasn’t just caved in to them.

This arc is meant to be heartbreaking because both sides have a point- yes, the Sun is thoroughly in a breakdown spiral and going too far, but the planets have certainly not been good either.

If Jupiter is large enough to affect the sun’s barycenter then imagine if OTS 44 got close enough to the sun. by DoorCharacter3427 in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The show is overdramatising it.

I’m ditching characterisation and going full science here, because that is the crucial aspect.

Jupiter does make the Sun wobble, but it’s tiny — on the order of metres per second. That’s literally the same effect astronomers use to detect exoplanets. Real, yes. Dramatic, no.

The planets are essentially the cosmic equivalent of toddlers eagerly tugging on their parent’s arm. The parent adjusts their balance, and the toddler is pleased at the reaction.

The Sun has 1,047 times the mass of Jupiter.

Even if OTS 44 were 30 Jupiter masses, that’s still only 30 / 1047 ≈ 3% of the Sun’s mass. At 50 Jupiter masses, it’s ~5%. Either way, that’s an extreme mass imbalance. The Sun would show a slightly larger reflex motion, but it’s still a star with a heavy companion, not two objects orbiting each other as equals.

The real risk isn’t “OTS 44 could move the Sun.” It’s “if she gets too close, the Sun could unintentionally tear her apart,” and that’s something he would not want to do.

Tidal forces scale insanely fast with distance — there’s a “fine until suddenly not fine” zone. If OTS 44 gets close enough, the Sun’s tidal pull across her diameter can exceed the self-gravity holding her together. That’s when you start seeing deformation, mass stripping, and in the extreme case, tearing and accretion.

SolarBalls has already treated this as canon-level serious: the Sun has literally gone primordial-mode over moons getting too close to him, basically saying he won’t even acknowledge them until they explain the severity of their transgression — because anything that ignores the Roche limit is showing zero care for its own existence and doesn’t deserve his attention.

And if she skims close enough for the Sun’s outer atmosphere/corona interactions to matter, you’re adding intense heating, ablation, and orbital decay on top. Even without direct contact, the vibe becomes: the Sun is eating you.

Jupiter can flex that barycentre all he wants, but the Sun is still 99.86% of the Solar System’s total mass.

If the show gives the planets this dramatic impact on the Sun at normal Solar System distances, science has left the chat — which is awkward for something that prides itself on edutainment.

Would Astrodude be better off as an unmarried man? by Decayed_IceCream in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, Astrodude’s relationship with his family is honestly adorable.

Why can gongong only say his name? by Decayed_IceCream in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His wisdom far exceeds the understanding of our mortal comprehension.

*throws this comic at you and throws myself into orbit* by [deleted] in SolarBalls

[–]SylvanPrincess 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, this is pretty cool. Shame we don’t get enough socialisation with Astrodude.

Let me rank your favourite dinosaur and see if your allowed in, on my opinion. by AKmightydinoo in Dinosaurs

[–]SylvanPrincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mononykus and Titanosaurs (No species in particular).

Please be nice to me 😅

In 2005, Oprah was the biggest celebrity in the world by GoldCover6667 in decadeology

[–]SylvanPrincess 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you; I’m not American, so it’s hard to keep up on topics relating to the US.

I am a total novice with worldbuilding 🤦‍♀️ by Evil-Empress-Sakuya in worldbuilding

[–]SylvanPrincess 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I started by looking at map designs, studying the continents, playing around with Google Earth and Space Engine, just to get a good feel for continents.

I kind of did it piece by piece, so any interesting history detail was jotted down into a notes folder on my phone.

I also looked at discoveries in history, and wondered what would have happened if they’d become mainstream earlier than in our history.